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Originally Posted by StylinRed  | He didn't sell all of it. He is slowly backing out of the asian market. If you look at his recent investment he is actually shifting focus heavily toward Canada, his other nationality.
He is also 90 years old and semi retired. There is his two sons who still ran his business in Hong Kong. Perhaps having majority of his asset out of Hk and China finally lets him do shit like this. Maybe he wants to pave the way for sons.
My bet is economical. As a Honger heavily invest in the west, he would want the one country two system to remain as long as possible.
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Originally Posted by threezero There is a definite hidden message. Pick out the word on the second ad is up the interpretation.
But that chinese poem, there isn't much way to interpret it given the historical context of the poem.
The fact that he accept an interview immediately and did not completely clarify and remain ambiguous just reinforce the rumor.
Beautifully done Hong Kong's king of the mountain. This is why him and his family is still king after so many years.
Objectively. He has so much to gain trying to maintain the one country two system policy. This ad was not for the Hong Kong people. It is for his business and his grip on Hong Kong | Hong Kong needs all the allies they can get, and everyone will have their own motivations. I know the bankers did a big rally the other week, and I'm sure most of them don't give a fuck about human rights, they just want to make money. But whatever, HK needs people on their side.
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Originally Posted by Badhobz Keep that shit in Hong Kong. Why bother bringing it here ? Especially if there's gonna be clashes between the Hongers, Taiwanese, fa lun gong, and the pro CCP mainlanders. A few hundred people here ain't going to change a damn thing and if it errupts into violence then it'll tarnish the chinese community's reputation even more in Vancouver. Aka lenon wall in SFU | "Keep that shit in Germany. Why bother bringing it here?" Americans in 1940
Before you accuse me of Nazi hyperbole, China are doing the same things to the Uighurs and other political enemies that the Nazis did early on to the Jews. No gas chambers (yet) but still mass encampments, forced sterilisation, organ harvesting, etc
The battle against tyranny is a worldwide one
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08-16-2019, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp "Keep that shit in Germany. Why bother bringing it here?" Americans in 1940
Before you accuse me of Nazi hyperbole, China are doing the same things to the Uighurs and other political enemies that the Nazis did early on to the Jews. No gas chambers (yet) but still mass encampments, forced sterilisation, organ harvesting, etc
The battle against tyranny is a worldwide one
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In a battle against something like this (tyranny), is there or will there be a problem if not everyone is fighting with the same motive or intention?
I have no doubt where you stand and what you are fighting for, but you mention some bankers who participate may not care for human rights (and who knows how many of the total protesters actually care for these things as well?)
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08-16-2019, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by trd2343 In a battle against something like this (tyranny), is there or will there be a problem if not everyone is fighting with the same motive or intention?
I have no doubt where you stand and what you are fighting for, but you mention some bankers who participate may not care for human rights (and who knows how many of the total protesters actually care for these things as well?) | That was just me being a bit bitchy about bankers... I know it's an assholeish thing to do to generalize so I take it back and apologize
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08-16-2019, 11:06 PM
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This is my first time seeing more footage of that cop who got ganged on at the airport... In this context, it's easy to see why the people overreacted. He was being abusive and aggressive, and people were complying. They were spraying with pepper spray AS they were complying, going back inside. He broke formation to attack the woman who was moving slowly (probably because of the pepper spray), and we all know what happened there.
The police really are out of control. They have been since the beginning though, so we can't say it's fatigue. Whoever is commanding them wants them to be violent and aggressive. Half the time they aren't even arresting anyone, and when they do arrest people, it's often bystanders who don't run away. They don't want to end the protests, they want to provoke the people.
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08-17-2019, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp That was just me being a bit bitchy about bankers... I know it's an assholeish thing to do to generalize so I take it back and apologize | No need to apologize, I won’t expect everyone protesting will be fighting for the same greater good instead of personal agenda.
In protest like this, more people generate greater effect, but it certainly feels like it takes away from the genuiness of it when you know there will be some people who are more focused on themselves (ie the rich hoping to stay rich or even get richer).
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08-17-2019, 02:50 AM
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Ah looks like the cop overreacted when she stopped and looked like she was digging thru her bag from his angle, still doesnt condone the crowd though
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08-17-2019, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed Ah looks like the cop overreacted when she stopped and looked like she was digging thru her bag from his angle, still doesnt condone the crowd though | So it's OK to threaten to push down and threaten to beat the bejeebus out of a defenseless woman who clearly looks like she was suffering from pepper spray, but it's not ok to defend her.
Of course the crowd probably overreacted, but given the kind of beatings they've probably received and seen, I really don't blame their response.
It's like blaming a dog that has been beaten repeatedly for snapping at you.
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08-17-2019, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by twdm So it's OK to threaten to push down and threaten to beat the bejeebus out of a defenseless woman who clearly looks like she was suffering from pepper spray, but it's not ok to defend her.
Of course the crowd probably overreacted, but given the kind of beatings they've probably received and seen, I really don't blame their response.
It's like blaming a dog that has been beaten repeatedly for snapping at you. |
you're also adding a lot of speculation into it, from the cops viewpoint (behind her) he sees one of the protesters stop, and look like they may be digging thru their bag, so as you see in the video, he says "wtf r u doing?" you also see he didn't "threaten to beat the bejeebus out of a defenceless woman" everyone, even the protester supporters, agree that this officer was well restrained
you're sounding as if you think the police and rioters/protesters are equal in what theyre allowed to do, and you clearly do not respect the fact that they are the authority figure, perhaps rightly so, but there still has to be a sense of reason in your thought process, and respect for the authority figure, else theres no room for debate, and there would be no end to the violence because everyone will be unreasonable 不講道理
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08-17-2019, 09:11 AM
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looks like HK police are on a new tactic, moving in swift, and making arrests https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-as...are-running-in | |
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08-17-2019, 09:21 AM
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08-17-2019, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed you're also adding a lot of speculation into it, from the cops viewpoint (behind her) he sees one of the protesters stop, and look like they may be digging thru their bag, so as you see in the video, he says "wtf r u doing?" you also see he didn't "threaten to beat the bejeebus out of a defenceless woman" everyone, even the protester supporters, agree that this officer was well restrained
you're sounding as if you think the police and rioters/protesters are equal in what theyre allowed to do, and you clearly do not respect the fact that they are the authority figure, perhaps rightly so, but there still has to be a sense of reason in your thought process, and respect for the authority figure, else theres no room for debate, and there would be no end to the violence because everyone will be unreasonable 不講道理 | Why do you think there is no respect for the police? As someone who is supposed to uphold the law, you are held to higher standards than everyone else. It's the same kind of outrage you would see if you found that a doctor drug-raped his patient.
Except in this case, the police are literally assraping the citizens repeatedly with no remorse and zero accountability. When you need to demand respect from others, then you don't deserve it.
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08-17-2019, 12:13 PM
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No tear gas tonight!
Sunday will be a big protest, maybe the biggest since June 16. God I hope the cops remain peaceful tomorrow.
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08-17-2019, 03:34 PM
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I find it funny when people (Trump) are asking for Xi Jinping to talk to HK protesters ahaahahhahah. Is this a fucking joke?
China has 1.38 billion people, HK is 7.3 Million, Shenzhen has 12 M, Shanghai has 26+. WHY THE FUCK do you think a leader of CHINA would fucking talk to protesters in HK.
When was the last time your CEO went and talked to people at picket lines (maybe only if there was a union representative, and that's even wishful thinking)? They have their own company to run, let alone, there are no specific leaders to even sit down with.
People really need to think before they speak.
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08-17-2019, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 6793026 I find it funny when people (Trump) are asking for Xi Jinping to talk to HK protesters ahaahahhahah. Is this a fucking joke?
China has 1.38 billion people, HK is 7.3 Million, Shenzhen has 12 M, Shanghai has 26+. WHY THE FUCK do you think a leader of CHINA would fucking talk to protesters in HK.
When was the last time your CEO went and talked to people at picket lines (maybe only if there was a union representative, and that's even wishful thinking)? They have their own company to run, let alone, there are no specific leaders to even sit down with.
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08-17-2019, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Hong Kong needs all the allies they can get, and everyone will have their own motivations. I know the bankers did a big rally the other week, and I'm sure most of them don't give a fuck about human rights, they just want to make money. But whatever, HK needs people on their side. | I think best and most effective allies Honger can have on their side is the Mainlanders.
If this protest is really about the 5 demands and not about separating Hong Kong from China. Honger should really work on changing their image and the movement's image for mainlander into something they can related to. After all we are all chinese? just like Shanghainese, Beijinger they all have their own identify but together everybody is still Chinese. If this is really about a movement against the government NOT a movement against mainlander then really there should be more focus into not alienating your biggest neighbour and your fellow Chinese.
Before everybody starts flaming with the mainlander is brainwash they can't be convince, they buy everything the government say about Hongers. As much as CCP use propaganda, mainlander does not need propaganda to not like hongers.
Decades of discrimination from honger as the superior Chinese (and now some claiming they are not even Chinese), with the protester waving American and union jack flag. It make it really easy to not support your cause.
Mainlander are not blindly brainwash like everybody thinks. While they enjoy what CCP bring to them, they criticize the government all the time for shit they dont agree with. Criticize the government for not living up to their promise is something Mainlander can related to.
Calling Hong Kong not part of China, Calling Mainlander backward brainwash and dividing the Chinese as a whole. That is something no mainlander will ever be able to related to. In the beginning there was some sympathy from Mainlander, that is all gone with the mob mentality against them from the Honger. Start with healing this divide.
Stop asking the west and for other prominent figure head for help. If this is indeed a grassroots movement like everybody say, than reach out to to the people. Reach out to brother and sister on the other side. This is a civil matter with issue and consequence far beyond any international countries can comprehend or ever care about.
Stop singling out mainlander. Stop saying you are not Chinese. Fight hate with love and recognize the discrimination that you've put yourself into. Honger play a big part in why Mainlander have no love for them.
Instead of singing the American anthem, protestors should sing the Chinese anthem,
The Chinese anthem is all about oppress people standing up to tyranny.
I hope I dont see some jackasses waving the union flag or the USA flag on the protest tomorrow. As much as I want the Honger to win and for this to come to a peaceful resolution, that shit infuriates me as a Chinese.
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08-17-2019, 04:48 PM
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^Yup. I've said it before they aren't going to get any popular support back home because the very platform they are advocating is incredibly foreign to the rest of the other 1.4 billion Chinese under the CCP. Plus all this hatred and fear of mainlanders has isolated them even more. China biding it's time and not sending in troops is a brilliant strategy. The once peaceful protests against a single legislation has devolved into anarchy and half hearted goals of democracy all the while the city suffers. Now a lot of people are crying for order to be restored and it gives the CCP the perfect excuse to use force.
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Originally Posted by threezero Instead of singing the American anthem, protestors should sing the Chinese anthem,
The Chinese anthem is all about oppress people standing up to tyranny. | Lol yes. China is about oppressing people who stand up to tyranny. 
The fact is appealing to the mainland chinese is a lost cause. Theyre never going to support anything the government doesn't support due to lifelong brainwashing. Look at the simpletons around the world toeing the party line like mindless zealots. I would rather appeal to people who have a conscience. If all fails, at least the mainland chinese around the world will feel the effects of their government's actions.
The sentiment amongst a lot of the younger hongers is if we burn, you'll burn with us.
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08-17-2019, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by twdm Lol yes. China is about oppressing people who stand up to tyranny.
The fact is appealing to the mainland chinese is a lost cause. Theyre never going to support anything the government doesn't support due to lifelong brainwashing. Look at the simpletons around the world toeing the party line like mindless zealots. I would rather appeal to people who have a conscience. If all fails, at least the mainland chinese around the world will feel the effects of their government's actions.
The sentiment amongst a lot of the younger hongers is if we burn, you'll burn with us. |
Attitude like this is why mainlander doesn't support it. No matter how many times people tell you mainlander are not as brainwash as you think, that they are capable of reasonable discussion if you would only try to see things from their side (did you not learn this in school?). You will still consider them simpletons and mindless people with no conscience, and did you call them zombies? Great so discrimination is ok when it is toward a portion of society you don't understand? Is this the great democratic freedom y'all are fighting for?
I said the Chinese anthem not china. Or do you even know what the anthem is or its lyrics? Do you know how powerful of a tool it would be if you understand the very thing you are fighting against? Singing the Chinese national anthem and using the actual words inside the lyric as slogan for the protest would really mind fuck everybody that just think Hong Kong protest is full of teenager who can barely speak or write Chinese.
Chinese anthem is actually a mockery of actual political situation in china and is not in anyway applicable to current mainland situation. I don't think you know that or even bother to check.
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Originally Posted by threezero I think best and most effective allies Honger can have on their side is the Mainlanders.
If this protest is really about the 5 demands and not about separating Hong Kong from China. Honger should really work on changing their image and the movement's image for mainlander into something they can related to. After all we are all chinese? just like Shanghainese, Beijinger they all have their own identify but together everybody is still Chinese. If this is really about a movement against the government NOT a movement against mainlander then really there should be more focus into not alienating your biggest neighbour and your fellow Chinese.
Before everybody starts flaming with the mainlander is brainwash they can't be convince, they buy everything the government say about Hongers. As much as CCP use propaganda, mainlander does not need propaganda to not like hongers.
Decades of discrimination from honger as the superior Chinese (and now some claiming they are not even Chinese), with the protester waving American and union jack flag. It make it really easy to not support your cause.
Mainlander are not blindly brainwash like everybody thinks. While they enjoy what CCP bring to them, they criticize the government all the time for shit they dont agree with. Criticize the government for not living up to their promise is something Mainlander can related to.
Calling Hong Kong not part of China, Calling Mainlander backward brainwash and dividing the Chinese as a whole. That is something no mainlander will ever be able to related to. In the beginning there was some sympathy from Mainlander, that is all gone with the mob mentality against them from the Honger. Start with healing this divide.
Stop asking the west and for other prominent figure head for help. If this is indeed a grassroots movement like everybody say, than reach out to to the people. Reach out to brother and sister on the other side. This is a civil matter with issue and consequence far beyond any international countries can comprehend or ever care about.
Stop singling out mainlander. Stop saying you are not Chinese. Fight hate with love and recognize the discrimination that you've put yourself into. Honger play a big part in why Mainlander have no love for them.
Instead of singing the American anthem, protestors should sing the Chinese anthem,
The Chinese anthem is all about oppress people standing up to tyranny.
I hope I dont see some jackasses waving the union flag or the USA flag on the protest tomorrow. As much as I want the Honger to win and for this to come to a peaceful resolution, that shit infuriates me as a Chinese. | Sorry but you're giving the typical mainlander way too much credit. Even people who I used to consider smart are just blabbing the same propaganda BS.
I don't want to insult groups as whole, and I don't mean any harm in this term, but it sure seems like people ARE "brainwashed". IMO they pretty much HAVE to be, or their country would collapse. It wouldn't work without brainwashing - people would not accept the direction their country is going.
And BTW many protesters have been doing what you're saying, in the TST protests around the train station. Chanting in Mandarin, I don't know if they're singing the anthem though.
And the flags are used as bastions of democracy, not saying "these countries are better than yours". They're saying "we should look up to the way these countries are run" (notwithstanding the many obvious issues they have of course). They're saying "UK let us down" and I think a lot of people wish they'd given citizens the right to switch to UK citizenship personally when HK was handed to the PRC. They're saying China made promises to UK, USA (and many other countries) that they are not keeping. Etc. There are some interviews with the flag wavers out there. They're not nationalists.
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Sorry but you're giving the typical mainlander way too much credit. Even people who I used to consider smart are just blabbing the same propaganda BS.
I don't want to insult groups as whole, and I don't mean any harm in this term, but it sure seems like people ARE "brainwashed". IMO they pretty much HAVE to be, or their country would collapse. It wouldn't work without brainwashing - people would not accept the direction their country is going.
And BTW many protesters have been doing what you're saying, in the TST protests around the train station. Chanting in Mandarin, I don't know if they're singing the anthem though.
And the flags are used as bastions of democracy, not saying "these countries are better than yours". They're saying "we should look up to the way these countries are run" (notwithstanding the many obvious issues they have of course). They're saying "UK let us down" and I think a lot of people wish they'd given citizens the right to switch to UK citizenship personally when HK was handed to the PRC. They're saying China made promises to UK, USA (and many other countries) that they are not keeping. Etc. There are some interviews with the flag wavers out there. They're not nationalists. |
Sorry for loosing sympathy for a movement that claims to be for human right but really it is human right for people that agrees with you.
Are mainlander not humans? From your and other's honger's sentiment they are consider sub-human, not worthy of understanding.
You know I am supportive of the cause right? I'm just not supportive of the us vs them mentality that is going on.
We the Hong Kong people in alliance with the fine folks of the west want to bestow the gift of democracy to the backward barbaric mainlander is what the whole movement is looking like from the other side.
Instead of trying to the other side and healing the difference. You and other are still trying to incite discrimination and divide. Recognize that bias that exist within. Just because a small portion of the protestor is using Mandarin doesn't mean that the protest as a whole is accommodating to mainlander
I mean your post started off with a rant about your perception of mainlander still being brainwash despite actual mainlander trying to voice their view.
Ends with oh but we are not really against mainlander, look at these protestor using your native language. I can learn to speak your barbaric language but you are still a barbaric.
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