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SkinnyPupp 08-17-2019 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8957062)
Sorry for loosing sympathy for a cause that claims to be for human right but really it is human right for people that agrees with you.

Are mainlander not humans? From your and other's honger's sentiment they are consider sub-human, not worthy of understanding.

You know I am supportive of the cause right? I'm just not supportive of the us vs them mentality that is going on.

We the Hong Kong people in alliance with the fine folks of the west want to bestow the gift of democracy to the backward barbaric mainlander is what the whole movement is looking like from the other side.

Instead of trying to the other side and healing the difference. You and other are still trying to incite discrimination and divide. Recognize that bias that exist within. Just because a small portion of the protestor is using Mandarin doesn't mean that the protest as a whole is accommodating to mainlander

I mean your post started off with a rant about your perception of mainlander still being brainwash despite actually mainlander trying to voice their view.
Ends with oh but we are not really against mainlander, look at these protestor using your native language. I can learn to speak your barbaric language but you are still a barbaric.

I'm sorry that you're determined to interpret things that way

welfare 08-17-2019 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 8957049)
^Yup. I've said it before they aren't going to get any popular support back home because the very platform they are advocating is incredibly foreign to the rest of the other 1.4 billion Chinese under the CCP. Plus all this hatred and fear of mainlanders has isolated them even more. China biding it's time and not sending in troops is a brilliant strategy. The once peaceful protests against a single legislation has devolved into anarchy and half hearted goals of democracy all the while the city suffers. Now a lot of people are crying for order to be restored and it gives the CCP the perfect excuse to use force.

"If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by"

Badhobz 08-17-2019 07:05 PM

Sun Tzu is bad ass ��

welfare 08-17-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 8957066)
Sun Tzu is bad ass ��

Figured you might appreciate that

ilovebacon 08-17-2019 09:03 PM

That's a lot of people at Broadway and Cambie.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5779842/v...kong-protests/

nsx042003 08-17-2019 10:16 PM

this isn't a protest for the right reasons anymore. who the fuck protests with masks and helmets on? are you expecting a brawl?

People need to realize the police have rights to do what they do, and why instigate even further? if protestors really care about the well being of their fellow protestors, why challenge and try to start shit by occupying places that are going to cripple the whole of HK? Fuck right off already.

Yeah try this shit anywhere in the world, you think cops will just stand there and watch, especially when you have front line protestors wearing helmets, facemasks and goggles?

threezero 08-17-2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nsx042003 (Post 8957079)
this isn't a protest for the right reasons anymore. who the fuck protests with masks and helmets on? are you expecting a brawl?

People need to realize the police have rights to do what they do, and why instigate even further? if protestors really care about the well being of their fellow protestors, why challenge and try to start shit by occupying places that are going to cripple the whole of HK? Fuck right off already.

Yeah try this shit anywhere in the world, you think cops will just stand there and watch, especially when you have front line protestors wearing helmets, facemasks and goggles?

People wore mask and helmet because the police does crack down with force in Hong Kong. It is a mean of protection. And frankly they are expecting a ran in with the police force. They are also trying to stay anonymous for fear of persecution by CCP.

The thing about being anonymous is some people take that as a get out of jail free card and abuse it.

Crippling the city was a way of getting attention. There is no point of protesting in the forest where there nobody watching you.

twdm 08-17-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nsx042003 (Post 8957079)
this isn't a protest for the right reasons anymore. who the fuck protests with masks and helmets on? are you expecting a brawl?

People need to realize the police have rights to do what they do, and why instigate even further? if protestors really care about the well being of their fellow protestors, why challenge and try to start shit by occupying places that are going to cripple the whole of HK? Fuck right off already.

Yeah try this shit anywhere in the world, you think cops will just stand there and watch, especially when you have front line protestors wearing helmets, facemasks and goggles?

Police have rights to do certain things, but they have gone beyond those rights. They have clear written guidelines which they have completely ignored.

As you are someone who obviously have no experience with the Hong Kong political system, let me tell you that the Hong Kong government doesn't give a shit about what you think until you threaten their economic lifeline.

So I always laugh when you have mainlanders half way across the world spewing their propaganda bullshit. Just look at the global news link. "Canadian" citizens waving the chinese flag in foreign countries trying to tell people "the truth" when they have never been there. Armchair experts in Hong Kong affairs with news from weibo and wechat.

SkinnyPupp 08-17-2019 11:02 PM

https://i.imgur.com/WbqOTrT.jpg

twdm 08-17-2019 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8957062)
We the Hong Kong people in alliance with the fine folks of the west want to bestow the gift of democracy to the backward barbaric mainlander is what the whole movement is looking like from the other side.

I think you got it all wrong. Hong Kong people don't give a shit about what happens in mainland china. They just want mainland china to stop fucking with them.

Razor Ramon HG 08-17-2019 11:22 PM

https://i.redd.it/sirjk48u53h31.jpg

asian_XL 08-17-2019 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8957082)

if they love china so much, they need to get the fuck back to China.

StylinRed 08-17-2019 11:33 PM

theyre holding a HK flag too
yeah what Asian_xl said, all hongers n mainlanders should just go back to china


and skinny, you ever see that comedy bit/meme where people who start a sentence with "I don't mean to be offensive/racist, but..." ?

SkinnyPupp 08-18-2019 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8957086)
theyre holding a HK flag too

The reason they are holding a HK flag is because they see it as a colony that is acting out against their owners. They only see the "one country" part, but not the "two systems" part. They've been taking the latter out of the vernacular little by little for years.
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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8957086)
and skinny, you ever see that comedy bit/meme where people who start a sentence with "I don't mean to be offensive/racist, but..." ?

No but I know what's coming when I make a claim that millions of people are being "brainwashed". As much as I don't like to say it, I don't know how else to put it.

I mean how else can you put it? You think people consider the positives and negatives of living under tyranny, and go "yeah, this is better than the alternative"? Somehow I doubt that. They literally aren't allowed to see the other side of the debate. They can literally be banned from travelling for disagreeing too strongly. They can be put into internment camps for speaking out against their leaders. How else do you put that without sounding like a setup to a joke? I'm at a loss...

SkinnyPupp 08-18-2019 12:15 AM

Just got this SMS from "HKPolice", never seen anything like this before. Wife got it too, seeing if anyone else did

https://i.imgur.com/2fEgggz.jpg

Razor Ramon HG 08-18-2019 12:29 AM

I'm guessing it's the police sending out alerts so people don't get caught by accident.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...abChangeable=0

On side note, this was Granville/Robson earlier tonight.


StylinRed 08-18-2019 01:04 AM

Guess tonight would've been good to go to nightmarket, prolly not too busy

bobbinka 08-18-2019 01:16 AM

So... these people, in democratic Canada, where they have freedom of speech, are counter protesting against those in (or supporting) HK that are protesting for their freedom/rights/future, which these people never had in the land they came from?

StylinRed 08-18-2019 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8957090)
The reason they are holding a HK flag is because they see it as a colony that is acting out against their owners. They only see the "one country" part, but not the "two systems" part. They've been taking the latter out of the vernacular little by little for years.

well you know that's probably a good thing for both sides to do, the sooner both sides feel as one, the easier the transition, because that's what's going to happen in the end, but that's something both sides need to work better at.
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No but I know what's coming when I make a claim that millions of people are being "brainwashed". As much as I don't like to say it, I don't know how else to put it.

I mean how else can you put it? You think people consider the positives and negatives of living under tyranny, and go "yeah, this is better than the alternative"? Somehow I doubt that. They literally aren't allowed to see the other side of the debate. They can literally be banned from travelling for disagreeing too strongly. They can be put into internment camps for speaking out against their leaders. How else do you put that without sounding like a setup to a joke? I'm at a loss...
Some are probably ignorant, some aren't, but they keep quiet, some don't care, some profit from it so they're all for it, and then there are those who do speak out and protest inside too

It's just like anywhere else in the world, even the US (in terms of reactions from the citizenry)

Tim Budong 08-18-2019 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8957091)
Just got this SMS from "HKPolice", never seen anything like this before. Wife got it too, seeing if anyone else did

https://i.imgur.com/2fEgggz.jpg

yea i got that too
everyone did

buhdeh 08-18-2019 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 8957095)
So... these people, in democratic Canada, where they have freedom of speech, are counter protesting against those in (or supporting) HK that are protesting for their freedom/rights/future, which these people never had in the land they came from?

Nice seeing idiots take advantage of rights they’d never have at home to deny a group of people their own freedoms.

Sounds about right for people who log onto VPNs so they can defend China in Instagram comments.

SkinnyPupp 08-18-2019 05:32 AM

https://i.imgur.com/ehdO2qY.jpg

As predicted, today's march was the biggest since 616 (edit: 1.7 million). Police only issued a letter for Victoria park, but so many people came that it spilled into the streets, pretty much like the first two big protests. So that didn't stop them from coming.

China was doing military drills openly in Shenzen, attacking people dressed up as protesters and spreading footage on social media. That didn't stop them from coming.

It was pouring rain the entire day, amber warning. That didn't stop them from coming (actually it was quite cool today which was a nice break. It's been insanely hot in the last week)

This march was interesting, because aside from in front of the China Liason building, there were no police presence whatsoever. And wouldn't you know it, there was no violence either. Imagine that. Protesters are ignoring that area, so riot police are just standing around. (it's 9:30pm right now, let's hope it stays this way)

The intended statement was that a few crazy moments at the airport do not represent what most people believe in, and Hong Kong people can "be like water" while still demanding the five completely reasonable requests that any legitimate government would consider.

Pretty proud of these people SeemsGood

On a personal note, I was in TST tonight and wow, it was like a ghost town compared to usual. Nobody around, especially tourists. They really have somehow stopped a vast majority of mainland tourists from coming down. I'm sure it's killing that part of the economy. Which some say would be great as we can go back to stores and services serving locals rather than the same luxury stores and cosmetic stores everywhere.

buhdeh 08-18-2019 06:10 AM

As if you needed more proof of how out of touch and idiotic these mainlander counter-protests are - here are some pictures from Toronto:

https://i.imgur.com/JbuXLkE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3pDTAqH.jpg

Nice to see people using their freedom to protest to only try to take things away from others.

320icar 08-18-2019 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 8957095)
So... these people, in democratic Canada, where they have freedom of speech, are counter protesting against those in (or supporting) HK that are protesting for their freedom/rights/future, which these people never had in the land they came from?

https://pics.me.me/you-stop-explaini...d-29392365.png

Badhobz 08-18-2019 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by buhdeh (Post 8957099)
Nice seeing idiots take advantage of rights they’d never have at home to deny a group of people their own freedoms.

Sounds about right for people who log onto VPNs so they can defend China in Instagram comments.

Oh please, you can criticize all you want back home about Hong Kong. These Ferrari Lambo guys can do the same in China and they won't stop you. Chinese nationalism is supported by the party. Seperatism isn't.


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