Hong Kong extradition protests

[welfare]

Originally Posted by punkwax

I don’t want to get too involved here but can’t help but notice that each time you praise what China has done recently, you point straight to the money.

I think that’s the problem. China is so focused on cash they treat their citizens and quite frankly, the Earth, like shit. The greed and posturing is ridiculous IMO.

But hey, enjoy those luxury items. I’m sure they’ll provide real internal happiness.

It's easy to criticize the "greed" of a country that size who just a few short decades ago saw 90% of its population living in severe poverty.
With such a drastic reduction in poverty of that level in such a short period, what would you expect?

Originally Posted by Ludepower

Can someone explain why theres a pro-china counter protest in a democratic country like canada?

I understand why canadian HK are protesting but why the fuck do canadian mainlanders care to come out and counter protest.

Like congratulation you made it here...relax and enjoy. Your living the canadian dream living here in a beautiful clean democratic country. Forget about your communist country and let others protest their freedom.

Theres lots of neutral non chinese people who are quickly seeing these hypocrites pro chinese for who they are. I'm down to goto these protest to publically shame them on social media.

Because this is current year Canada. Where we promote the culture of the individual even when it contradicts the values of the host culture. Ie, multiculturalism.

[StylinRed]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

I like tho know how they achieve that? Is it by stealing IP from other company and then building a cheaper version of it using cheap labour and polluting its own rivers and and lake with deadly chemicals and without doing spending any money or R&D? Or is it achieve by serving deadly milk powders so a few selective rich can get even richer? Or using expiry vaccine on purpose so people can reap in the cash for themselves. The Chinese gov grip is so tight on its citizen it even regulate when natural gas will be delivery to you and when it stops. So you can even pay for it if you want coz you might want to warm your house sooner.

while I understand what you're saying and getting at, on the flip side though China is #2 in the world for R&D spending, and the trajectory of China's investment into r&d is going to eclipse the US in a number of years

Oh and also if Chinese really love their own country how come they don't buy local brands? Instead they seek out foreign brands IE LV, Gucci, tiffany, burberry, Coach, Canada Goose? Also shouldn't they use Chinese brand for their cosmetic as well? What cell phones maybe they should switch from their iPhones to huawei and xiaomi. As far as I understand these so call "Chinese" only wants to act like they care about China but look closely they aren't even using any product made by a Chinese company because they know it not safe, quality isn't good, it break down easily.

If these people really love China then start supporting Chinese brand and you are going to see 9/10 of them are just all talks. My wife is a Chinese born and raise in Beijing and the way she see this is that if you support China then start using stuff from Chinese company and not just all talk but no action taken.

again, while I get what you're saying, you do realize that low and mid lvl markets are dominated by Chinese brands right? its understandable that the high end market is still dominated by brands outside of china, simply because of the giant head start, the history, the brand power, that the market outside of china brings...

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ I guess I am trying to say is that if these Chinese love their country so much they should be buying from Chinese company instead of using iPhones etc etc etc. I have no issue using a xiaomi cell phone. Is cheap is decent and does what I want.

Actions speak louder than words.

[Badhobz]

Uhh they are buying Chinese products. Huawei and Xiaomi has a good hold of the chinese cell markets and even though you buy apple you are still supporting China as they are made in China and therefore pays into the system. Hell almost everything is made in China and therefore most items regardless of origin funds the CCP.

[6793026]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

I been to China almost every year and I can you tell not much have change.

China's pretty damn big, and at different pockets, there are some huge investments resulting in (gov't / private) economical spurts. I consider these fast changes where sometimes faster than any countries I've seen in the past 10 years.

Originally Posted by Badhobz

The whole point of showing up with these nice cars and luxury items is to show what the CCP has done for the chinese people. Take it back to the 80s and most of these guys wouldn't even be on bicycles.
The CCP has brought 1.4 billion peoples out onto the global stage as a world power.

Originally Posted by twdm

You mean introduce rampant corruption and concentrate wealth in the corrupt and connected?

These two quotes go hand in hand. China has grown super fast in the last 20 years, and yet lacked the social education to accommodate the ethical aspect of things.

For once, I'm proud of HK this weekend as there wasn't huge disruption of tear gases and riots. Super thankful. Thank you for the Van police for making peace at the skytrain (sat) & China embassy (sunday).

Only funny thing I saw was signs "no secession".. errr wtf how did that come about?

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

^^ Because they see the protest on China state media and though the people in HK wants to seperate from China. Oh and to flex their ferraris which they purchased with daddy's and mommy's money.

I can afford one of those and I wasnt sponsored by the CCP or my family or involved in bribery/corruption. Keep painting every rich mainlander as some sort of a corrupt individual shows just how much hatred there is and why this divide is just growing wider. Only Hongers can be rich and also still claim to be morally upright eh ?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Uhh they are buying Chinese products. Huawei and Xiaomi has a good hold of the chinese cell markets and even though you buy apple you are still supporting China as they are made in China and therefore pays into the system. Hell almost everything is made in China and therefore most items regardless of origin funds the CCP.

Funny you mention that coz a friend of mine who is from China went to the protest to cheer on the the pro Chinese snapping pics and posting videos. I simply ask is she using an iPhone to take those pictures(we all know she uses an iPhone) on her wechat comments. And my comment was deleted within 5mins of posting it then I got block lol. Such glass heart I must have shatter it pretty hard.

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

I can afford one of those and I wasnt sponsored by the CCP or my family or involved in bribery/corruption. Keep painting every rich mainlander as some sort of a corrupt individual shows just how much hatred there is and why this divide is just growing wider. Only Hongers can be rich and also still claim to be morally upright eh ?

Aren’t your earnings from working for a Canadian company, in Canada? Honest question. I don’t know if I remember correctly.

[Alpine]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

Funny you mention that coz a friend of mine who is from China when to the protest to cheer on the the pro Chinese snapping pics and posting videos. I simply ask is she using an iPhone to take those pictures(we all know she uses an iPhone) on her wechat comments. And my comment was deleted within 5mins of posting it then I got block lol. Such glass heart I must have shatter it pretty hard.

Why does a pro-china buying a non-china brand matter? It's a global market, products & materials are sourced from all corners of the globe... you're not going to find much that's only made in one country unless it's something that's selling in a dollar store...
If you are pro-HK, does that mean that you cannot own anything that's made in China without being a hypocrite?

C'mon guys, let's focus on the real issues here... not if someone owns a Ferrari or uses an iphone...

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by westopher

Aren’t your earnings from working for a Canadian company, in Canada? Honest question. I don’t know if I remember correctly.

i work in management at the ports. i made most of my money on the market buying canadian and american stocks.

[Xplicit_EL]

Originally Posted by 6793026

China's pretty damn big, and at different pockets, there are some huge investments resulting in (gov't / private) economical spurts. I consider these fast changes where sometimes faster than any countries I've seen in the past 10 years.





These two quotes go hand in hand. China has grown super fast in the last 20 years, and yet lacked the social education to accommodate the ethical aspect of things.

For once, I'm proud of HK this weekend as there wasn't huge disruption of tear gases and riots. Super thankful. Thank you for the Van police for making peace at the skytrain (sat) & China embassy (sunday).

Only funny thing I saw was signs "no secession".. errr wtf how did that come about?

Wow, what a bunch of winners right here. People like this make me ashamed to be chinese.

[threezero]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

Funny you mention that coz a friend of mine who is from China went to the protest to cheer on the the pro Chinese snapping pics and posting videos. I simply ask is she using an iPhone to take those pictures(we all know she uses an iPhone) on her wechat comments. And my comment was deleted within 5mins of posting it then I got block lol. Such glass heart I must have shatter it pretty hard.

Ahh the Chinese Karen, the one that will flip out when the restaurant gave her hot sauce instead of the oil. She probably thought you are mocking her super serious "social advocacy" post.

There are these glass hearted people in all races and ethnicity.

All kidding aside. Chinese domestic market is huge. The Chinese you see and hear about is less than 1% of the population. Just tip of the iceberg. Chinese do purchase their own product, if you look at entire population of a whole Chinese probably uses 90% domesticate produce and 10% international.

Alot of the international brand in China produce their product in China specifically for the country. For example they have a seperate line of Mercedes in China that is made inside the country for consumption in China.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Originally Posted by Alpine

Why does a pro-china buying a non-china brand matter? It's a global market, products & materials are sourced from all corners of the globe... you're not going to find much that's only made in one country unless it's something that's selling in a dollar store...
If you are pro-HK, does that mean that you cannot own anything that's made in China without being a hypocrite?

C'mon guys, let's focus on the real issues here... not if someone owns a Ferrari or uses an iphone...

See that's the funny part. They felt so embarrassed about it. Nothing wrong with snapping pics and videos using your iPhone when you are at the pro China protest. But the way she reacted when I point it out is pure gold. I have no issue using a Chinese brand phone in public at all.

Is the way they act like they must use other foreign brand to show off their wealth.

[SFU_wmc]

Removing Coordinated Inauthentic Behavior From China
https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/08...ing-cib-china/

Today, we removed seven Pages, three Groups and five Facebook accounts involved in coordinated inauthentic behavior as part of a small network that originated in China and focused on Hong Kong. The individuals behind this campaign engaged in a number of deceptive tactics, including the use of fake accounts — some of which had been already disabled by our automated systems — to manage Pages posing as news organizations, post in Groups, disseminate their content, and also drive people to off-platform news sites. They frequently posted about local political news and issues including topics like the ongoing protests in Hong Kong. Although the people behind this activity attempted to conceal their identities, our investigation found links to individuals associated with the Chinese government.

[buhdeh]

Gee, why does China need to spread propaganda to sites that mainlanders can't even access?

[CharlesInCharge]

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[Traum]

Past example and evidence from Australia are suggesting that there is state-backed propaganda machinery working behind the scenes to arrange these. Typically, it is the United Front, though it can be one of their many proxies as well.

In the case of exchange students, examples from Australia have also indicated there is someone who actively guides / keeps taps on the exchange students. Don't go along with what you've been "told" to voluntarily do? There will be "consequences".

Originally Posted by Ludepower

Can someone explain why theres a pro-china counter protest in a democratic country like canada?

I understand why canadian HK are protesting but why the fuck do canadian mainlanders care to come out and counter protest.

Like congratulation you made it here...relax and enjoy. Your living the canadian dream living here in a beautiful clean democratic country. Forget about your communist country and let others protest their freedom.

Theres lots of neutral non chinese people who are quickly seeing these hypocrites pro chinese for who they are. I'm down to goto these protest to publically shame them on social media.

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

Is the way they act like they must use other foreign brand to show off their wealth.

Really? Hongers don't buy name brands eh ? Why the fuck does Hong Kong have like 8 LV stores in a city footprint that's smaller than Vancouver ? Don't talk like your shit doesn't stink.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Why the fuck does Hong Kong have like 8 LV stores in a city footprint that's smaller than Vancouver ?

To appease the literal bus-loads of mainland tourists.

[asian_XL]

Originally Posted by buhdeh

Gee, why does China need to spread propaganda to sites that mainlanders can't even access?

because pen15 is small

[Badhobz]

[spoon.ek9]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

I don't believe it myself but who knows in this day and age. Look at all the dirty shit the CIA has been involved in the past. Bay of pigs in Cuba, the Iranian Revolution, United fruit company in Guatemala.

Sounds just like CCP propaganda to me. But that isn't even close to the crux of the issue. Most of the mainlanders don't understand protestors demands for freedom and therefore will never back the cause. All the while the city and its citizens suffers and we have these pointless protests/counter protests in our own backyard.

so you think it's completely plausible that the USA has somehow paid Canadians to protest against the CCP? If anything, it's much more plausible that the pro-China supporters were paid by CCP to disrupt pro-HK protests here.

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9

so you think it's completely plausible that the USA has somehow paid Canadians to protest against the CCP? If anything, it's much more plausible that the pro-China supporters were paid by CCP to disrupt pro-HK protests here.

canadians? no man, the CCP media was talking about the CIA inciting protestors in HK not locally here. Im sure all the local protests here are just a bunch of canadianized hongers because they all speak fluent english. Most of the CCP supporters cant even put two fucking English sentences together.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

To appease the literal bus-loads of mainland tourists.

That's actually true. I stayed at my aunt's in Tuen Mun close to the border and every weekend at the local mall was packed with Mainlanders walking around with luggages shoving makeup and clothes into them.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG

That's actually true. I stayed at my aunt's in Tuen Mun close to the border and every weekend at the local mall was packed with Mainlanders walking around with luggages shoving makeup and clothes into them.

Don't forget baby milk formula and accessories.

But that's a whole other topic.

Spoiler!

so anyone wanna buy baby milk formula?