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so you think it's completely plausible that the USA has somehow paid Canadians to protest against the CCP? If anything, it's much more plausible that the pro-China supporters were paid by CCP to disrupt pro-HK protests here.
I do believe there are paid actors for both side in the protest Hong Kong. There has been evidence on both side. And it’s is quite clear that are some participant of the movement trying to veer off course.
Here? Nah lol. No need to pay anybody here. There is a bleeding heart honger watching from the hk protest from the other side of the world.
And than there is the passionately nationalist Mainlander trying to “defend” their country on a foreign soil.
Seeing the turnout at the protest here. The ratio looks exactly like a regular day in crystal mall.
The only one getting pay is the uncles selling flags to both side at the protest.
canadians? no man, the CCP media was talking about the CIA inciting protestors in HK not locally here. Im sure all the local protests here are just a bunch of canadianized hongers because they all speak fluent english. Most of the CCP supporters cant even put two fucking English sentences together.
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I do believe there are paid actors for both side in the protest Hong Kong. There has been evidence on both side. And it’s is quite clear that are some participant of the movement trying to veer off course.
Here? Nah lol. No need to pay anybody here. There is a bleeding heart honger watching from the hk protest from the other side of the world.
And than there is the passionately nationalist Mainlander trying to “defend” their country on a foreign soil.
Seeing the turnout at the protest here. The ratio looks exactly like a regular day in crystal mall.
The only one getting pay is the uncles selling flags to both side at the protest.
This is exactly my point. The above picture is of a pro-china supporter right here in Vancouver. It's one thing to suspect it in HK, it's an entirely other realm of stupidity (or influence/brainwashing) to think it's being done here.
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Cops showed up but didn't seem that interested.. Local citizens performed the investigation themselves, and found CCTV footage, found his clothes, etc. They will hand this over to the police who will hopefully arrest the guy
Turns out the date was legit and those two cops were arrested today. They haven't said why they weren't arrested when this was first brought to their attention, and they claimed they didn't know that video footage of the event existed. In other words, they didn't investigate at all (also in the footage, the cops clearly see that there's a camera, as they look directly into it)
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Still no reason why the cops did that to the elderly person though.
But I am done with this whole protest. Both sides won't back down but one side is going to lose (most likely HK) and they are going to end up losing badly.
Still no reason why the cops did that to the elderly person though.
But I am done with this whole protest. Both sides won't back down but one side is going to lose (most likely HK) and they are going to end up losing badly.
It is possible to have come through in a win-win situation. It not going to happen unless everybody takes a step back. And find a common ground to step up together on.
Seems like its been peaceful today. Maybe this video will actually be viewed lol.
RTHK did this interview on the head editor of Ming Pao with a law degree from UK. A pretty neutral, calm and educated discussion on the current situation coming from a government sponsor channel.
There is no exciting street fight, no english subtitle. Pure Hong Kong dinner time TV.
Something alot of honger kids would not be able to sit through.
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So something happen with my wife's wechat. She and some of her friends made a wechat group (some people are from China, TW and HK). Someone mention about something let's hope no tanks roll out in HK. After a few mins she send some message in the group and no one reply.
She message them and it turns out no one can see other people's message in the group anymore. She try to exit the group but the group admin can't add her back in. Basically they have to make a new group. I simply told her that's why China controls your social media. If you mention something in wechat they don't like they simply block that message from being send out. My advice to her is don't mention any sensitive since her and her friend's wechat account are most likely on the China's gov watch list now. And that is how China control the social media.
A lot of these Pro China protest we have in Canada I really like to to know why are they thinking. They came to Canada and experience all the freedom that was given to them yet when HKers are fighting the the same freedom(which they currently have but is able to be taken away)/ If they feel the Chinese gov is right then why aren't they going back to China? Is not just freedom of speech, but also the social/media control, TV shows, movies all the screen in China. That's why you see all these Chinese TV shows have same storyline again and again, same with movies.
Since we are going back to China in Sept. I plan to bring one of my old phones, factory reset it a few times and only install apps that I need (wechat, map apps to china) and that's it. NO what's app, no FB no google stuff. Even at the boarder if they want to check my phone they aren't going to find anything.
So with your logic, just because you support something then it means you have to go back there eh? A lot of hongers support this protest locally, why don't you tell them to go back to Hong Kong then.
You wanna talk about tv shows with endlessly the same shit, tvb is the fucking king of that.
So something happen with my wife's wechat. She and some of her friends made a wechat group (some people are from China, TW and HK). Someone mention about something let's hope no tanks roll out in HK. After a few mins she send some message in the group and no one reply.
She message them and it turns out no one can see other people's message in the group anymore. She try to exit the group but the group admin can't add her back in. Basically they have to make a new group. I simply told her that's why China controls your social media. If you mention something in wechat they don't like they simply block that message from being send out. My advice to her is don't mention any sensitive since her and her friend's wechat account are most likely on the China's gov watch list now. And that is how China control the social media.
A lot of these Pro China protest we have in Canada I really like to to know why are they thinking. They came to Canada and experience all the freedom that was given to them yet when HKers are fighting the the same freedom(which they currently have but is able to be taken away)/ If they feel the Chinese gov is right then why aren't they going back to China? Is not just freedom of speech, but also the social/media control, TV shows, movies all the screen in China. That's why you see all these Chinese TV shows have same storyline again and again, same with movies.
Since we are going back to China in Sept. I plan to bring one of my old phones, factory reset it a few times and only install apps that I need (wechat, map apps to china) and that's it. NO what's app, no FB no google stuff. Even at the boarder if they want to check my phone they aren't going to find anything.
Had a discussion about this very specific point you made. The people that are rich enough to leave China probably already had the freedoms not seen by others living in China. So it doesn't matter to them.
Interesting thing that would never happen are.. how many of these Chinese immigrants have done the process to become citizens of Canada? Do they vote?
So with your logic, just because you support something then it means you have to go back there eh? A lot of hongers support this protest locally, why don't you tell them to go back to Hong Kong then.
You wanna talk about tv shows with endlessly the same shit, tvb is the fucking king of that.
The two situations are not comparable. You're talking about people who moved from a democratic society to a democratic country. The other group is from an authoritarian communist country going to a democratic country.
You have already been able to separate your love for country apart from it's political system. What you need to do is look at this from a third party perspective.
Imagine German Nazis coming to Canada and bragging about how awesome their country is and then they start shitting on the local Jews for protesting against the treatment they've been getting back home. How does that look? Hypocritical much? The point people are trying to make here is, if your country (including it's system) is so great why leave? why do any of them need to have a backup plan/exit strategy if things are so awesome?
Obviously I've used some hyperbole here to get my point across. Nazi Germany =/= Mainland China.
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