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https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/co...he_station_to/ And apparently, aid workers told to stand facing the walls, not allowing them to attend the victims until the police leave: https://i.imgur.com/FMLFSgk.jpg And aftermath of the attack on the MTR: |
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A whole bunch of fucked up, such a mess |
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Their response = bring in dozen of raptor cops full gear, baton, rubber bullet guns and pepper spray to go ape shit in a public transit cart full of regular passengers until they can somehow find the culprit? :rukidding: |
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Regarding the MTR police violence at Prince Edward station, I will refrain judgement until I see the 1,2,3 minutes leading up the cops so violently barging in. OH.... HK news just reported they are shutting down MTR station (Prince Edward) as a "crime scene" and not allowing reporters to report. |
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https://i.imgur.com/A4Ft62j.jpg Someone pulled out the fire extinguishers and started spraying... https://i.imgur.com/FWVF8ab.jpg My guess is that it broke up at this point, and then the cops came in and made arrests. It's possible that they were going to show up anyway, and this fight is just a convenient excuse for them. Actually in the videos, before the terrorism takes place, you can see good arrests being made. Chase the suspect, tackle them, arrest them, move on. But for some unknown reason, the cops decided to just start beating on random people before retreating. Nobody is going to remember the burning barricades, or the scuffle with the hammer guy, or the good arrests being made. It's all going to be these unfortunate citizens. https://i.imgur.com/JGoMJuC.jpg I have a friend who was on that very train. She got the fuck out of there when it stopped... It's crazy to imagine that if she'd panicked like the people we see in the video, she could have been attacked by cops as well. |
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at 1:08 you see a cop spray bombing pepper spray at at the escalator jammed with people and some look like they are regular passengers within the pack (no masks, no umbrella). I'm all for the cops looking to find the person who initiated the fight, but you don't go ham in front of everyone in a public train station. Imagine, this could have been your relative or yourself inside this train. |
My guess is that the calls for police stated that people were swinging pipes and hammers, or that people were being attacked. So police came in hot. In one of the videos, you can see the police order a few reporters to open their bags to show them what's inside. Perhaps trying to identify attackers, protestors, or just look for weapons. Nonetheless, very poor execution on the police's part. The station was shut down, the trains weren't moving, the police flooded the station and would have blocked the exits. The people had no where to go. It was completely unnecessary to barge in swinging. One of the videos also show one of the officers turning on his flashlight (by his head) so that reporters can't film/identify him, before he goes into the train swinging. |
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regardless... cops did the same thing as the Yuen Long attack... licensed triads=police |
Just a couple of quick observations from today: - In at least 2 videos that I saw today, petrol bombs were thrown by people dressing up protesters (clad in black and full protester protective gear). However, an interesting detail on the petrol bomb thrower is they were also wearing a red or blue blinking beacon. Such a detail is seen on the HK police officers quite commonly throughout the protests so far, be it a uniformed officer, a riot police, or on the disguised police who had previously arrested protesters and beated on them. Generally speaking, this type of blinking beacon is not worn by protesters because they do not want to stand out, or have means of getting themselves noticed or otherwise identified. There have already been previous accusations of police going undercover, stiring up sentiments and shxt, and even vandalizing to rile up the protesters. The police have always denied this, but given how often the police have lied to the public -- they are basically lying everyday at their daily afternoon press conference now -- I would not believe a word they say, or take what they say at face value anymore. I think there is strong evidence to suggest that the incendiary bombs might be thrown by undercover officers trying to rile up the protesters, so that the police can justify rolling in on hard crackdown, or to provide the HKSAR CEO to declare a state of emergency. - In the Prince Edward station incident, the blue-sided elderly dude had struck / hit a reporter in the midst of the on-going quibble. This was the trigger point that pissed off the protesters, and the clashing escalated from there. - A recurring theme that I noticed today, and had disgused me to no ends is how the police have repeatedly denied first aiders / paramedics access to treat the injured. It doesn't matter whether the medical personnel is a volunteer first aider, St John Ambulance staff, or an actual full fledge paramedic. All of them have been denied access to treat the injured, or at least make them wait for an unacceptably long time -- any extra and unnecessary delays are unacceptable when it comes to medical assistance. This really disgused me. I'd like to see how those crooked cops would feel themselves if they or their loved ones are denied medical access even though it is available. - The police association spokesperson has only just made a public request a day or two ago, asking people to not bully kids from police families. And then today, all kinds of different cops are beating on young protesters, including some as young as 12. If this is not hypocritical or disgusting, I don't know what is. |
If you guys want to see the scuffle that led to the cops showing up, you can see the whole thing here https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1232159630319881 It starts out as typical HK style squabble and cursing, but then gets physical. Once umbrellas and hammers start swinging, it disperses. Then the cops show up, make some arrests (again, I have no problem with that - there are people out there breaking the law) But what they did after.. From blocking paramedics (both volunteers and actual paramedics) to.. well what I posted last night. That will haunt my mind forever, especially the guy screaming |
Fuck watching the video of the medic begging to be let in to help people absolutely broke my heart. The system is so fucking broken. These cops need to be held responsible or refused treatment. Both is not going to happen. This is so fucked up. |
I can understand not allowing people within a facility due to safety. Gun violence lock down or fights within a club (weapons and esp with guns), premise has to be deemed safe before letting medics / cops in. Reporters and press I can sort of understand; anyone wear a freaking yellow helmet with an iphone call themselves a reporter, there is no time to verify if they are real or not. My whole issue is... were these real HK paramedics not allowed in? I can't keep track cause these people all below are all "protest medics" whatever that means. https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default...F&v=1565403905 https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default...770_102450.JPG https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default...770_102450.JPG https://static.bangkokpost.com/media...c1_3286403.jpg |
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undercover cop? |
No, that's an airsoft gun. That isn't to say it's not a cop, but it's not evidence that it is. There's a post on reddit showing the same guy in another picture. It's definitely the same guy, and people are saying that it's a picture of him arresting someone. I can't tell from the picture.. To me it looks like he's just chucking another molotov. I want to see clear video of this dude arresting someone before I believe he's a cop. |
These protesters refusing to believe they're asshole too are a bit much |
I wonder if it'll impact that Lee hom concert my friend wants to go see. She's crazy!! Who wants to go to Hong Kong right now??? |
I support the protest, all the peaceful marchs. Most of the times (big protests) 3 months ago, people just went and got it done. Last 4 weeks, they clamped down on ensuring it's approved by the police to at least gather; which most of the time led to overflow protest. This time I'm pissed, people were gathering without cause; main goal & intent was to "stress test" the airport traffic. https://www.hongkongfp.com/wp-conten...on-54-Copy.jpg https://www.hongkongfp.com/wp-conten...ion-1-Copy.jpg From blockades to throwing metal on MTR airport express and vandalizing the MTR airport stations. wtffffff can someone fact check SCMP... is this legit?? https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default...n&v=1567357228 I don't want to blindly believe this shit anymore from one single side |
One side of me wants me to believe these protestors are CCP backed, the other side wants to believe that some protestors are just morons. |
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Also, There were couple of days that the MTR closed some of it stations to prevent + make it difficult for people to go to those legal protests. And so much more.. |
Yup the government made MTR a target. They were seen as 'the good guys' for a while, but once they started manipulating things to go against the public (literally the opposite what what they're supposed to do) now the more radical protesters are going to fight them. |
The MTR isn't a person lol, to even consider it a target, or even something that's on "our side" or "theirs" is crazy |
Government institutions helping the government. Big fucking surprise there. |
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Did you just call your beloved government crazy? No 5 cents for you |
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