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StylinRed 09-14-2019 11:38 PM

Pretty huge protest in causeway bay atm

SkinnyPupp 09-15-2019 12:46 AM

Yup, explicitly banned, but they aren't going to give up


They will literally have to kill hundreds of thousands of people to make them stop protesting. Or bow to the reasonable demands, some of which are already promised in the constitution, written in law.

StylinRed 09-15-2019 02:01 AM

Tear gas, water cannon use, and molotovs are being used atm, but I lost my internet, and feed :(

SkinnyPupp 09-15-2019 03:24 AM

Yup protesters are using molotovs and barricades to hold back the advancement of water cannons and tear gas. I saw one water cannon get hit by one bottle

Some MTR exits are totally destroyed. I don't agree with vandalism, but the MTR are collaborating with terrorists and withholding evidence of possible murder, so you kind of see where they're coming from. If they'd just release the footage and stop closing gates to protesters, they'd be left alone.

Ulic Qel-Droma 09-15-2019 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8959956)
Yup, explicitly banned, but they aren't going to give up

https://twitter.com/harbourtimes/sta...31582846197766

They will literally have to kill hundreds of thousands of people to make them stop protesting. Or bow to the reasonable demands, some of which are already promised in the constitution, written in law.

they don't need to kill any.

they can just let this drag on for years and years.

they'll stop protesting when they get tired, and when the young get old enough and are fed up with the elders rambling about some old ways that the new bloods dont give a fuck about.

they can win through attrition over time measured by years. they already know this.

SkinnyPupp 09-15-2019 04:10 AM


Pro fascist guy outnumbered 10,000 to 1. Still picks fight, gets beat up.

FailFish

After hearing about this, fujian thugs started beating on protesters with rods and clubs again


Police only arresting the people being beaten


SkinnyPupp 09-15-2019 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8959965)
they don't need to kill any.

they can just let this drag on for years and years.

they'll stop protesting when they get tired, and when the young get old enough and are fed up with the elders rambling about some old ways that the new bloods dont give a fuck about.

they can win through attrition over time measured by years. they already know this.

All they're doing in that case is delaying the inevitable, which is pretty much the only thing a ruling power can do when there's a revolution. History has shown this over and over again.

SkinnyPupp 09-15-2019 04:15 AM

This guy walking home on his way from work


This is looking like 721 all over again, with the police collaborating with thugs to beat on protesters and civilians

Edit: Police are arresting some of them.


Including guys with butcher knives and kerosine


Unfortunately one of the alleged attackers got himself outnumbered again and got beat up real bad


SkinnyPupp 09-15-2019 07:47 AM

Cops tormenting a compliant detainee, including smashing his face into the cement ground, and spraying pepper spray directly in his face


twitchyzero 09-15-2019 08:47 AM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CXIp2v8ywFU/maxresdefault.jpg

lmao i hope these street brawlers have heart attack again

StylinRed 09-16-2019 12:54 AM

Wow what a time to have shoddy data coverage

Seems like a summary of all the reported violence last night
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/09/1...t-north-point/

SkinnyPupp 09-16-2019 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8960010)
Wow what a time to have shoddy data coverage

Seems like a summary of all the reported violence last night
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/09/1...t-north-point/

It's interesting how the police treat someone wielding a meat cleaver and trying to pour kerosine on people (this site shows them lending their shield to protect his identity, but there are other pictures of them having a smiling conversation and shaking hands), compared to how they treat someone who obstructed the police from beating on and/or arresting protesters :considered:

That page doesn't even show what I think may have been the potentially worst thing to happen that night


The government and police have continued to push the protesters more towards violence. Some of which is self defense (attacking the mainland thugs, throwing molotovs to block the advance of tear gas attacks) some of which is downright harmful intent (this video)

IMO the government needs to give in to the 4 demands immediately. Give universal suffrage as promised in the constitution, dissolve the current government including the CE, and let people do elections all over again and start from scratch. From there, put together an independent inquiry into how the police are behaving.

It's so simple, but certain people are worried about "losing face". It's hard to imagine someone thinking they have much face left to lose on an international level.

Ulic Qel-Droma 09-16-2019 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8959956)
They will literally have to kill hundreds of thousands of people to make them stop protesting. Or bow to the reasonable demands, some of which are already promised in the constitution, written in law.

my bad.

actually the pro HK people just have to kill a few of the pro china people.

cuz that news will spread faster, and the pro hk people will be painted like barbarians.

StylinRed 09-16-2019 06:30 AM

Strife in the medical field, as 500 doctors/etc issue letter of support for police, while medical staff are protesting in hospital against police brutality

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ong-protests?=

Tim Budong 09-16-2019 08:33 AM

there will always be a split in most professions

EmperorIS 09-16-2019 08:34 AM

https://www.facebook.com/10176790785...726069?sfns=mo

SkinnyPupp 09-16-2019 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Budong (Post 8960019)
there will always be a split in most professions

The split is who is connected to communist party, and who is not.

no "real people" (caveat: with the ability to think critically) actually support police brutality

Z3guy 09-16-2019 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 8959965)
they don't need to kill any.

they can just let this drag on for years and years.

they'll stop protesting when they get tired, and when the young get old enough and are fed up with the elders rambling about some old ways that the new bloods dont give a fuck about.

they can win through attrition over time measured by years. they already know this.

protesting for years and years will have no effect on commerce???? When it is all said and done it is all about money = power......

6793026 09-16-2019 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8960013)
IMO the government needs to give in to the 4 demands immediately. Give universal suffrage as promised in the constitution, dissolve the current government including the CE, and let people do elections all over again and start from scratch. From there, put together an independent inquiry into how the police are behaving.

I can't see how releasing people free and drop charges against arrested protesters would ever pan out. If they committed a crime from vandalism / ilegal protester/ attacking the police.... you have to pay your dues if you're caught.

This one I really don't know, if there is ever a free / open / fair election, has there been candidate who's stepping up people of HK people would vote for?

SkinnyPupp 09-16-2019 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 8960046)
I can't see how releasing people free and drop charges against arrested protesters would ever pan out. If they committed a crime from vandalism / ilegal protester/ attacking the police.... you have to pay your dues if you're caught.

This one I really don't know, if there is ever a free / open / fair election, has there been candidate who's stepping up people of HK people would vote for?

That's why it should depend on the charge. Chucking a molotov at cops or destroying glass at MTR stations are obviously different charges from "unlawful gathering"

Anyone arrested for "unlawful gathering" (ie. protesting peacefully with no other offenses) should be let off without question.

And yes, there are several pro-democracy politicians here with the support of the people. Some have been arrested several times during these protests, including this weekend when he asked the cops why he was charging a couple who were walking by, trying to get home (he was arrested for obstructing police)

danned 09-16-2019 09:36 PM

MTR train derails at Hung Hom station leaving 8 injured
https://www.hongkongfp.com/wp-conten...9/img_9057.jpg
https://www.hongkongfp.com/wp-conten...7_09-40-48.jpg
https://www.hongkongfp.com/wp-conten...9/img_9055.jpg
https://www.hongkongfp.com/wp-conten...7_09-47-37.jpg

doing a train drift fail??????

StylinRed 09-17-2019 12:51 AM

Cause is unknown atm but I wonder if it's due to protesters sabotaging it

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ning-rush-hour

Badhobz 09-17-2019 01:02 AM

Anarchy!!!! Send in the clowns already.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb...6R9K/giphy.gif

SkinnyPupp 09-17-2019 02:02 AM

You can tell that the train switched tracks after the front of the train had already crossed the split. Either hardware malfunction, or driver error. Either way, doubtfully related to protests.

This does however highlight how poorly the MTR is run compared to just 10 years ago. While this is the first derailment with passengers onboard, there have been more and more derailments and line shutdowns over the last 4-5 years. When I first moved here, delays were practically unheard of. Now it happens a few times a year, sometimes putting passengers at direct risk.

Add to that collusion with terrorist attacks, and you can see their reputation is likely beyond salvage. This is a public/private company, completely broken from the ground up. It should be dissolved and started from scratch, once HK gets a government elected with universal suffrage. Oh BTW do the same thing with HKPF

CivicBlues 09-17-2019 12:42 PM

Sad when this is the most active thread on RS by far.

Is this Revscene or Hongscene?

Comon bros I'm ready for all the Fails. FAIL ME FAAAAIILLLL! MY BODY IS READY!!:drunk:


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