^^ well I was afraid to open this thread in China in case I go missing too.
But my parents were in Hk for the past 2 weeks and from what they say as long as you stay away from where the protest are happening you are pretty safe and people just go with their days.

City is basically shut down today... 11 MTR stations closed, many malls closed, including all those owned by MTR. Police used pepper spray already at 8am, I think this is the earliest police attack so far.

Today is a day of mourning for HK and China. China has been ruled by tyranny for 70 years now, and they've been encroaching on Hong Kong for the last 10+ years. HK is fighting back, and if Mainlanders care at all about China, which they say they love, they'd fight back too.

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Sorry to burst your bubble. It is a day of mourning for Hong Kong. It is a day of celebration for 90% of the mainland population.

Hong Kong does not agree with being ruled by China. But majority of mainlander has no problem as stated before. As stated before love looks different from all perspective. Chinese people or mainlander if you Prefer has an 100% success rate in overthrowing dynasty that majority of the population does not agree with.

If anything the 70th anniversary completely eclipse Hk protest today in minds of Mainlander worldwide.

Right and wrong. No doubt the vocal minority are dealt with but majority of the Chinese population is simply apolitical. That why it is so hard for them to grasp the concept of the five demand but it is easy for them to all come together when they see something present as an attack to their Chinese identity.

The government has simply stop broadcasting any new on Hong Kong. Honestly probably for the best. Sick of seeing “free china” chant at rallies.

7 decades of brainwashing obviously has a very strong effect.

No bubbles are being burst here, don't worry. I am saying if the people in China love their country as much as they say they do, they would fight the fascist regime.

As mentioned on the previous page, they don't really give a fuck. Mostly because they aren't allowed to, and don't have access to reality.

No bubbles burst for me, but I do feel bad for them.

Once China's own "bubble" bursts, things might be different though. And I think the rest of the world will support the will of the people, if they want it. And once they have access to reality, they might.

*brainwashing intensifies*

(5 minute video, watch the whole thing, it's amazing)

Xi is pushing his insane cultish ideology on his people harder than any previous ruler. The question is, will he push so hard that he breaks them? He's barely even trying to sneak things past them anymore, just straight up treating them like mindless subjects that he possesses.

And this is reality, NOT an episode of Black Mirror WutFace

Mourning for 70yrs?:lol dude you realize the KMT were worse/just as bad? and before them it was the fake king, whose puppeteer was Japan, and before him it was the empress cixi, who was a real tyrant... Hell everyone whose been in power has had their horror stories, which may explain the "meh" attitude of mainlanders

As for brainwashing, was watching the latest episode of "if you are the one" and they just suddenly broke out to sing a national song, was like wtf :lol

You're definitely right that things weren't necessarily good 70 years ago, under KMT rule and Japanese occupation or recent Imperial regimes.

But that doesn't mean a tyrannical fascist dictatorship should be celebrated.

As for the 'meh' attitude, it's simply the nature of effective propaganda and prohibition of reality. It's not surprising at all. Things have gone to "really fucking bad" to "nearly destroying the entire country" to "hey a capitalist dictatorship is capitalist at least". But now it's heading towards the "insane cult of personality" realm under Xi. That is something Chinese people need to realize sooner rather than later. Oh and the entire rest of the world, because don't think he's going to stop at HK (and then Taiwan)

Just saying, if you REALLY love China (and you should, it's an amazing country) then you should be on the side of liberty, not tyranny. That's all.

And don't try making the argument that communists and fascists (and racists) often make, that Chinese people genetically are predisposed to wanting to be ruled by dictators. Fuck that. All humans want liberty, it's just a matter of how many of them are under effective control, or are simply apathetic (we've seen many cases of apathy towards things like this, or the environment, or the welfare of others, all in the name of "my bank account")

sounds like something China is experienced in

Marching has begun



Cops are straight up terrorising citizens

going to an airshow or war museum because you're fascinated by history or tech, i can relate

but getting a hard-on over a display of military chest beating to commemorate the same regime that represents so many atrocities in modern times? gonna be a no from me dawg

4th of July yo

Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong Kong National Day protests

Another angle, the police charges in with his gun drawn, with the intent to kill


There's footage of a unconscious/unbreathing protester bleeding from the head, being blocked from medical help by police. I am not going to post it here. So while this kid may survive (he's in surgery now), at least one other looks like they didn't.

Protesters are going to need more than just molotovs to prevent this from happening more from now on. Beijing got the escalation they wanted.

If police literally stayed home today, we'd probably just have a bunch of people screaming at no one, with a bunch of unused molotovs, while fascism-supporting businesses got trashed (which they are anyway, police aren't stopping that from happening)

This is just unnecessary violence. It could all end peacefully tomorrow.

Media outlets pulling reporters from the streets. The result of Beijing's increased violence is suppression of the press.

Of course it will still come out via twitter and what-not, but we can no longer count on media outlets with good reputation. Have to be very careful with the info that comes out.

I’m surprised more people haven’t been killed already.

Play stupid games , win stupid prizes.

...On both ends of the spectrum.

About time someone got shot...

Someone shoot or stab the fucking police already. Gotta fight fire with fire

He's still alive, though still in critical condition

Fail me all you want, but it looks like the protestors are using lethal force. That warrants the use of lethal force from the police. Hell from that overhead video, it looks like 30 protestors v 5 cops or whatever (as an example of ratio).

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pro-tip: don't attack the police known for excessive force when they pull out a firearm

In a sort of fucked up way I feel the same way. I don't wish it on anyone and I ain't even taking sides in this huge debate because really I don't have an opinion but attacking police regardless if the police are good or bad is a no go. I'm sorry it happened, I wish him a full recovery but when you cross a line you shouldn't cross this is what happens.

As bad as it is i'm hoping this may spark someone to finally wake up and figure things out but seeing as how things will go the protester side will probably just escalate and thus the police will likely do the same. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else dies, maybe even a protester killing a cop who knows but nothing has indicated to me that anyone is willing to back down.

Skinnypup, let's put it in another way. If you come to Canada (or the US), start a HK (violent) protest, and you start charging at the cops in a mob frenzy, with pipes and shit. You bet the cops are going to shoot to kill, you might get tasered first, but you're gonna get shot. Regardless of if the cops started it first or not.

I'm not disputing the whole entirety of the events and I'm well versed enough to know what this was all about. I'm simply saying, at an objective standpoint, lethal force was warranted.

This should have stayed as a peaceful protest, keep the cops in the wrong. Now it's just a fucking mob.

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