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It is a public space that this was posted, so whether callous, I don't think any laws were broken.
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I really hope this vid was sent to RCMP and immigration office. Time to revoke these cunts visas and send them back to their beloved country. We dont need these little shits here.
You'll probably spot them (probably from a mile away with those hair colour) at your nearest espot / hotpot spot.
You are absolutely correct that they are all about "the greater good". Although I would submit that it is a cultural difference rather than "brainwashing". They are willing to submit to something different than us, is that brainwashing?
Chinese culture historically has always been about "the greater good". We are not OK to sacrificing the "self" for the greater good, nothing wrong with that. They are OK to, nothing wrong with that either.
It is cultural difference that people just need to accept. One isn't superior to the other.
Nah... I'm from Taiwan so I know what you are talking about.
But take a wider perspective and look at the so called "harmony" Confucianism ideology is trying to convey vs. the "harmony" that CCP is trying to force onto China... they are different things! CCP wants Chinese citizen to believe that it is the same thing... when they are NOT.
Confucian ideology is that through development of self (academic, self cultivation, morality... so on) toward different ROLES that one must portray, the person becomes a better part of the society. Hence the society can grow better when more and more people of the society have higher standard of self development.
CCP's version is that the society, under the GREAT leadership of CCP is AMAZING! And as long as one fits into this GREAT SOCIETY in the way that the person can.
Where is the problem? Well... the society under CCP has a pre-determined ceiling but not floor. Even if a person cares enough, he can't move the society forward... that's up to the politburo to decide... not the average joes. Oh... and anyone is average joes outside of the politburo.
In democratic countries (like Canada, US... etc) or advanced democratic socialism countries (Norway, Denmark... etc), there's a public acceptable floor of the minimum standard... but never a ceiling. We, as citizens elect our reps when we see room for improvement in the society. That's how our laws come into effect.
Yes, we can argue which one is better for all we care... but who are the politburo to decide what is better for the Chinese citizens? None of them are elected to be there... they were appointed. Or if you consider China's National People Congress, which all its members are again appointed to be a fair representation of its people... then I've got nothing further to say.
It is a public space that this was posted, so whether callous, I don't think any laws were broken.
They say the station is skytrain property so that's illegal to put up any posters / post-it notes. Then you got the other side saying the posters / notes are private proper of the individuals and no one should remove. Lastly, you got the dude ripping them off.
Truth is, you can't put up stuff without permission. Property owner have the right to remove them. Just the dude that's doing it got in shit cause it was the Lennon wall.
I really hope this vid was sent to RCMP and immigration office. Time to revoke these cunts visas and send them back to their beloved country. We dont need these little shits here.
For those who failed this post, do you people actually agree that this is okay to do?
The footage again, police shooting at press, taking shots while leaving, aiming at heads, no criminals around. And it was a rubber bullet, not a bean bag round. This is basically attempted murder
First of all, I don’t think anyone should be posting shit on our public streets unless it’s sanctioned by the city. I sincerely doubt something that political and divisive is allowed without special Richmond city council approval. So if it’s illegal to put it up I’m sure it’s fine to rip it down.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you should liter my streets full of trash or try and stir the local populace into a contentious and divisive topic that might disturb the harmony in Canada.
Keep that fucking shit in China where it belongs. You want to do something ? Go take a flight back to Hong Kong or China and do that there. Don’t bring foreign troubles here.
The footage again, police shooting at press, taking shots while leaving, aiming at heads, no criminals or protesters around. And it was a rubber bullet, not a bean bag round. This is basically attempted murder
I dunno why u keep saying there's no protesters around? There's a group of protesters to the left, seen in other photos, and videos
And even in the video you show, this time, you still see the protester run up to the corner welding a shield, wearing a blue raincoat, he was fired at when he rushed over, he even blocks one of the shots, u can see the ricochet at 0:36 at the btm left of the screen, in fact... I wonder if that ricochet is what hit the reporter?
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For those who failed this post, do you people actually agree that this is okay to do?
Fuck this thread Jesus christ
I failed him because that isn't a police matter, and to call for their visas to be rescinded, is ridiculous in many aspects, one being its not a crime to tear down posters/flyers on a wall, and it's somewhat bigoted as he's assuming they're foreigners, and he's being a bit vile
First of all, I don’t think anyone should be posting shit on our public streets unless it’s sanctioned by the city. I sincerely doubt something that political and divisive is allowed without special Richmond city council approval. So if it’s illegal to put it up I’m sure it’s fine to rip it down.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you should liter my streets full of trash or try and stir the local populace into a contentious and divisive topic that might disturb the harmony in Canada.
Keep that fucking shit in China where it belongs. You want to do something ? Go take a flight back to Hong Kong or China and do that there. Don’t bring foreign troubles here.
I agree on the first point. But technically it wasn’t littering until those pro China kids threw it on the ground
But ok. I understand the points better. Thank you and stylinred
Keep that fucking shit in China where it belongs. You want to do something ? Go take a flight back to Hong Kong or China and do that there. Don’t bring foreign troubles here.
One could argue that this isn't just an internal China thing, it's an issue for the entire world, with Hong Kong as the current front line.
If you think China's tyranny has no effect on the rest of the world
I dunno why u keep saying there's no protesters around? There's a group of protesters to the left, seen in other photos, and videos
And even in the video you show, this time, you still see the protester run up to the corner welding a shield, wearing a blue raincoat, he was fired at when he rushed over, he even blocks one of the shots, u can see the ricochet at 0:36 at the btm left of the screen, in fact... I wonder if that ricochet is what hit the reporter?
Even if there were protesters between the police and press, it's still an excessive use of force. In fact I'll retract that part, since it's pretty much irrelevant.
First of all, I don’t think anyone should be posting shit on our public streets unless it’s sanctioned by the city. I sincerely doubt something that political and divisive is allowed without special Richmond city council approval. So if it’s illegal to put it up I’m sure it’s fine to rip it down.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you should liter my streets full of trash or try and stir the local populace into a contentious and divisive topic that might disturb the harmony in Canada.
Keep that fucking shit in China where it belongs. You want to do something ? Go take a flight back to Hong Kong or China and do that there. Don’t bring foreign troubles here.
Unlike in China, freedom of speech is guaranteed in Canada. Just like how I have to put up with your bullshit arguments, you have to put up with mine. Why would the protection of civil liberties be so divisive to Canadians? It is only offensive to those who don't agree with those values and I would be supportive of any measure to deport those who not only are not Canadian citizens, but are trampling on our culture and values.
So yes. Don't bring foreign little shits to Canada to stir up shit.
Canada has to start pulling a trump and start refusing these student visas.
Mark my words. China is on a warpath. Rampant unchecked nationalism was the cause of the last two world wars. There are so many parallels with events in past. They better realize this sooner or later before it's too late.
One could argue that this isn't just an internal China thing, it's an issue for the entire world, with Hong Kong as the current front line.
If you think China's tyranny has no effect on the rest of the world
No it isn't. It just fucking isn't. Nobody cares about Hong Kong. Only one who cares about Hong Kong are hongers. You wanna know why? Because if somebody gave a fucking shit they would have done something or stepped up to China by now. This thing has been going on for months and not a single country has dared do anything (ie offer immigration to hongers) or acted in any way that's contrary to China's stance. Sure there's some words spoken by the UK and the US but there are much bigger issues at stake globally.
I just lost 50k in stocks within the last few days. People are worried about an upcoming recession. Last thing on people's minds is some Chinese city. If maybe hundreds of peoples died due to police brutality you might get more international condemnation. But so far 1 dude got shot with a live round and he's in stable condition. 1 fucking dude. In all these months. I'm still blown away.