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That's pretty bs. Aren't these civilians paying their salary, and aren't police suppose to be there to serve and protect?
Can any body say that this isnt excessive use of force?
I'm just waiting for a civilian to put a bullet in an officer for self defense.
NIA: Chinese who destroy Lennon Walls will not be allowed back into Taiwan
National Immigration Agency gets tough on Chinese tourists and students who attack Hong Kong students or tear down Lennon Walls
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and aren't police suppose to be there to serve and protect?
nope, that's just a title of a canadian tv show, that followed the VPD, probably adapted from the VPD motto of 'servamus' (plural of servo, Latin for protect/watch over/etc)
Or they got it from the LAPDs motto of 'to protect and serve'
Hkpfs motto is to serve with pride and care
RCMPs motto is to 'maintain the law'
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Can any body say that this isnt excessive use of force?
Nope, that was pretty fucked up, I'd like to see what happened that caused the cop to go over to him, regardless though, that was ridiculous
The footage again, police shooting at press, taking shots while leaving, aiming at heads, no criminals around. And it was a rubber bullet, not a bean bag round. This is basically attempted murder
I can't see who and if there were anyone beside the press. Were there other criminals (your words), violent protesters beside the press? Heck, protesters might even be using press as barriers and hiding behind them. I can't see anything beyond what the camera is showing. There were 4 cops retreating; each holding shotguns, I can't imagine they were trying to aim at the 10-20 press / reporters. I'm sure they were aiming at some protesters we can't see in the video.
Again, huge debate... why do cops have to aim at the heart / head etc. Police are trained to aim & shoot to neutralize / kill (in some cases), where else do you expect cops to aim? Biggest area is chest / body, and then its the head. Where do you want cops to aim... limbs? Come on...
As a reporter, would you risk yourself being in the line of fire?
Either these reporters are brave as f or dumb as F. I can't tell. I have yet seen any Global / CTV reporters or any reporters in the world do what HK press are doing.
A swarm of people standing right in front of a police zone (whatever you call it).
Attempted murder... that would never hold up in court cause police is going to say the same bull crap justifying the force due to "being in fear, which is why they were retreating".
We have a lot of HK so - called - press (anyone with a fucking iphone wearing a vest, with no accredited verification) who are being douchbags; getting in the way of police doing their joib, and to an extend, creating inconvenience not allowing police to chase after protesters.... That makes me super mad.
Below is a FB video showing how "press" came out slowing police doing their job. https://www.facebook.com/dicky.chan....400905509/?t=4
I can't see who and if there were anyone beside the press. Were there other criminals (your words), violent protesters beside the press? Heck, protesters might even be using press as barriers and hiding behind them. I can't see anything beyond what the camera is showing. There were 4 cops retreating; each holding shotguns, I can't imagine they were trying to aim at the 10-20 press / reporters. I'm sure they were aiming at some protesters we can't see in the video.
Again, huge debate... why do cops have to aim at the heart / head etc. Police are trained to aim & shoot to neutralize / kill (in some cases), where else do you expect cops to aim? Biggest area is chest / body, and then its the head. Where do you want cops to aim... limbs? Come on...
As a reporter, would you risk yourself being in the line of fire?
Either these reporters are brave as f or dumb as F. I can't tell. I have yet seen any Global / CTV reporters or any reporters in the world do what HK press are doing. A swarm of people standing right in front of a police zone (whatever you call it).
Attempted murder... that would never hold up in court cause police is going to say the same bull crap justifying the force due to "being in fear, which is why they were retreating".
We have a lot of HK so - called - press (anyone with a fucking iphone wearing a vest, with no accredited verification) who are being douchbags; getting in the way of police doing their joib, and to an extend, creating inconvenience not allowing police to chase after protesters.... That makes me super mad.
The anti-mask law won't work and will just cause more havoc. Rather than listen to the 130 citizens who attended the community dialogue or the 1 & 2 million protestors, the EXCO and CE choices to listen to the recommendation from dimwit DAB members.
Again, huge debate... why do cops have to aim at the heart / head etc. Police are trained to aim & shoot to neutralize / kill (in some cases), where else do you expect cops to aim? Biggest area is chest / body, and then its the head. Where do you want cops to aim... limbs? Come on...
As a reporter, would you risk yourself being in the line of fire?
Either these reporters are brave as f or dumb as F. I can't tell. I have yet seen any Global / CTV reporters or any reporters in the world do what HK press are doing.
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The anti-mask law won't work and will just cause more havoc. Rather than listen to the 130 citizens who attended the community dialogue or the 1 & 2 million protestors, the EXCO and CE choices to listen to the recommendation from dimwit DAB members.
If there were large enough, pretrial centres, they could technically make mass arrests, throw everyone into pretrial centres, deny bail, causing a huge backlog in the court system, when their day in court finally arrives, guilty or not guilty, they'll be released due to time already being served, and that'd keep protesters off the streets for a substantial amount of time, and perhaps the protests will have lost steam
but how many people can the police really arrest everyday? Lets say they arrest 1000 people a day... They'll still need at least half a year to bring in all of the radical protestors.
I'm pretty sure the protestors will find creative ways to deal with this "law"... People on LIHKG are already planning to wear burkas.
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lmao burkas, hmm I guess they could wear fake Santa like beards, and sunglasses too! But CE will likely make it anything wearable that hides the face.
yes that's true they would need to arrest a lot of ppl, but if it were strictly the troublemakers, it's probably not that many people
The anti-mask law, if it goes into effect, only serves to add fuel to the fire. It's the same law Ukraine enacted right before the protests turned to flat out riots. And if you think HKers are rioting now, go look at the Ukraine footage and see what actual riots look like.
If the government wants more violence, more shootings, and if they want people to die, enacting this colonial law is exactly what they need to do.
Enacting it can only mean two things: they WANT more violence, or they are REALLY FUCKING STUPID. I honestly don't know which it is. Maybe both?
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After several high-profile protests, the Canadian Parliament introduced Bill C-309, which bans the wearing of masks during a riot or other unlawful assembly.[11][12] The bill became law on June 19, 2013.[13] Those convicted of it face up to 10 years in prison.[14]
Canada's Criminal code, Section 351(2), also covers "Disguise with Intent", whereby "Every one who, with intent to commit an indictable offence, has his face masked or coloured or is otherwise disguised is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years". With some exceptions, an indictable offence in Canada is one that is subject to a fine of greater than $5,000 or imprisonment of more than six months.
in 2017 a Quebec ban on face covering for transition and government services became publicized.
Tacking onto my previous post of how Taiwan's immigration is planning to deport Chinese mainlanders that are destroying Lennon Walls and attacking others, it looks like UBC's Alma Mater Society has a Lennon Wall up now that is under camera surveillance and those who damage it will be facing disciplinary attack and expulsion from the Nest.
I'm not or was a UBC student, but it seems like the Nest is the student union building.
Some might not care about being banned from it, but it's progress and a good starting point for the rest of UBC's administration to look into (but I doubt they will care because $$$$$)
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No it isn't. It just fucking isn't. Nobody cares about Hong Kong. Only one who cares about Hong Kong are hongers. You wanna know why? Because if somebody gave a fucking shit they would have done something or stepped up to China by now. This thing has been going on for months and not a single country has dared do anything (ie offer immigration to hongers) or acted in any way that's contrary to China's stance. Sure there's some words spoken by the UK and the US but there are much bigger issues at stake globally.
I just lost 50k in stocks within the last few days. People are worried about an upcoming recession. Last thing on people's minds is some Chinese city. If maybe hundreds of peoples died due to police brutality you might get more international condemnation. But so far 1 dude got shot with a live round and he's in stable condition. 1 fucking dude. In all these months. I'm still blown away.
"Thoughts and prayers" is the Western version of "outrage". This aint bad or you'd have Red Cross there by the boat. Privileged people don't really have a concept of actual "crisis".
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