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Old 10-05-2019, 02:19 PM   #1626
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Not sure on the validity of this, but protesters set fire to a store, with seniors living upstairs who had to be hospitalized due to smoke inhalation



And protesters are blocking the fire department from attending fires now
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Clearly the senior’s fault for living above a store own by facist.
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Are you guys suggesting the protesters targeted those people?
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Just proves that the wanton violence, and destruction is done with a complete lack of consideration to fellow hong kongers, and is completely out of hand

Even the reaction to the story by protesters is just utter denial, and shows no sympathy for the innocent people they could've killed, and mayve caused irreparable damage to.

It's along the same lines of the hkpf being /shrug over hurting protesters/press, but worse, since these seniors are neither protesters/police, they didn't have a choice of being in the line of fire

But that's only if the story is legit, I can't find anything on it except the twitter post and a reddit thread
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Just proves that the wanton violence, and destruction is done with a complete lack of consideration to fellow hong kongers, and is completely out of hand

Even the reaction to the story by protesters is just utter denial, and shows no sympathy for the innocent people they could've killed, and mayve caused irreparable damage to.

It's along the same lines of the hkpf being /shrug over hurting protesters/press, but worse, since these seniors are neither protesters/police, they didn't have a choice of being in the line of fire

But that's only if the story is legit, I can't find anything on it except the twitter post and a reddit thread
I agree, it's out of hand. Thank the police for getting us here.

If I lived above a triad run store, I would be worried for my safety as well.

The situation REALLY FUCKING SUCKS, but condemning people online isn't really doing anything but making you feel morally superior. I don't know why you keep doing it. The focus should be on the people who have FULL CONTROL OF THE SITUATION. That's the government and police. Stop assaulting, harassing, taunting, abusing people, answer some demands, and maybe triads and fascists will stop being attacked, and there will be less collateral damage. Stop provoking more violence by using an old colonial (and possibly illegal) law that will OBVIOUSLY provoke people towards more violence and anger.

The actions of violence really suck, and should never happen. 6 months ago, and for decades before that, HK was one of the safest big cities (if not the safest) to live on earth. But these people are under influence of tyranny. They're cornered, and lashing out. Condemning the acts, wtf is the point? I'm such a good person because I would never set fire to a place or attack a cop. Good for me I guess?
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BTW some more footage FINALLY came out of that undercover cop shooting the 14 year old. This time you can see what got the crowd upset - he drove straight into a group of people (yes they were on the street) and got out of his car and shot the kid.


There have been so many incidents where dudes by themselves start attacking groups of protesters with huge knives and axes, only to (obviously) get shit stomped. I don't even know what they're thinking. One dropped his wallet and it had no HKID in it, only a China ID.
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Family goes for an after-dinner walk with their 3 year old, get harassed and taunted by police, telling them they're in an illegal assembly
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lmao �� why condemn and point out the wrongdoing... Brilliant


That video still doesn't show the lead up though, just a different angle of what we've seen, from the crowd behind the vehicle

The commentator said he's suspected of hitting a pedestrian, I can see him trying to edge his car through the crowd and getting people heated though, that makes sense, we see that happen downtown every weekend, maybe he even gave one of them a love tap... Let's burn him alive
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That video still doesn't show the lead up though, just a different angle of what we've seen, from the crowd behind the vehicle

The commentator said he's suspected of hitting a pedestrian, I can see him trying to edge his car through the crowd and getting people heated though, that makes sense, we see that happen downtown every weekend, maybe he even gave one of them a love tap... Let's burn him alive
Edit: I just want to say that I absolutely 100% agree that they shouldn't be using fire in their "refurbishing" efforts against triad/fascist stores. I hope they take this incident as a warning that fire is very hard to control, and while you may destroy a triad den, you could also harm innocent people in the area. I obviously don't participate, but I hope someone brought this up. Simply admonishing is pointless, but perhaps they can learn from the incident.

So I wonder what caused people to storm his car, instead of the other cars that were stuck in the blockade. Or every car that got caught up in protests when they first start? Must have just been random right? Or maybe he did what everyone says he did, and drove into some people.
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So I wonder what caused people to storm his car, instead of the other cars that were stuck in the blockade. Or every car that got caught up in protests when they first start? Must have just been random right? Or maybe he did what everyone says he did, and drove into some people.
Well yeah like I said it's perfectly reasonable to imagine him trying to edge his way thru the crowd, we see that here even, so I could see that being what riled up the crowd
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Well yeah like I said it's perfectly reasonable to imagine him trying to edge his way thru the crowd, we see that here even, so I could see that being what riled up the crowd
Yeah we've seen it happen a few times during the protests. The more angry drivers try to push their way through and end up getting cones and bottles thrown at their cars as they make a getaway. More calm people will wait for things to clear up, and then request that people make way so they can get home.

HK is fucked right now, now is not the time to be impatient with people or worse, pick fights with them. Especially if you have a fucking gun. Be like water
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One of the 5 demands are met. Anyone seriously think the other 4 would ever be fulfilled?
Can anyone agree on which demand would never be passed? I honestly think 'the release of arrested protesters' would be a hard no.

Just answer to the demands... they say....

Well... Even if Carrie admits fault, passes 3 of the 4, I can't see the violence stopping. People will continue to riot hoping for the last demand.

I really don't know how HK is going to get out of this pickle.
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carry lam is trying very hard to prove herself, especially in from of the ccp

she think shes margaret thatcher trying be her own version of the iron lady, but that shit wont work here in hk (look where it lead us to) and this isnt the first time, even before she was CE she never negotiate with any one of lol
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One of the 5 demands are met. Anyone seriously think the other 4 would ever be fulfilled?
Can anyone agree on which demand would never be passed? I honestly think 'the release of arrested protesters' would be a hard no.

Just answer to the demands... they say....

Well... Even if Carrie admits fault, passes 3 of the 4, I can't see the violence stopping. People will continue to riot hoping for the last demand.

I really don't know how HK is going to get out of this pickle.
Im gonna say that's a big "No".

Of the 5 demands, maybe the separate inquiry into police abuse I could see it happening and dual suffrage, but definitely not the release of the arrested individuals, and the changing of the term rioter to protestor.

What's going to probably happen in the long term, is Hong Kong's taxes will increase due to the increased police workload, along with all other public services to repair all damages across the city, ppl will get pissed. Protests will happen again.

It'll repeat itself over and over and over again, until the economy completely collapses. There is no fixing this situation. Its practically gambling "go big or go home " type of scenario.
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What's going to probably happen in the long term, is Hong Kong's taxes will increase due to the increased police workload, along with all other public services to repair all damages across the city, ppl will get pissed. Protests will happen again.
I wouldn't say they would raise taxes. The HK government's fiscal reserves are about 2 trillion HKD. I'm pretty sure we're the richest city in the world.
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There's a clip of him flying thru the streets just prior to that too, witness said he was road raging due to being stuck behind the protests

One of him being beaten also

And of protesters saving his life

What a nut, luckily he didn't kill anyone
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Same taxi found in a pro-China rally on Oct 1 (you can see it on the left side, 6 seconds in)


I know this doesn't really "mean anything" but damn
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Houston Rockets GM posted a tweet in support of HK and now getting swarmed by the Chinese 50 cent gang. Apparently they will stop covering the Rockets in China now lmao. What a bunch of losers.
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ok and how do you tell which side a business is leaning on? intel from mob mentality unequivocally accurate that won't be biased from emotions/adrenaline?
and let's say they do successfully ruin a shop that voices support for the government, then what?
they do this enough and the gov't will give in to other demands? i somehow doubt it

nice vandalism guide, good witch hunt
lmao at HKers running their own city into the ground
seriously it just looks like police brutality is a scapegoat to cause destruction
no police = no violence, hmm so were the police around when they caused some arson? i thought only peaceful protests then

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let's say they do successfully ruin a shop that voices support for the government, then what?
they do this enough and the gov't will give in to other demands? i somehow doubt it
I agree with you on this.... sadly, no one else can comprehend reasoning. Their justification: vandalism is justified because eg// MTR is gov't owned and by disrupting HK economy it will force government to respond and cave in. (that's the jist of it, it's also cause MTR didn't release the video of the attack of cops inside of the innocent men / women (forgot which date it is).)


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carry lam is trying very hard to prove herself, especially in from of the ccp

she think shes margaret thatcher trying be her own version of the iron lady, but that shit wont work here in hk (look where it lead us to) and this isnt the first time, even before she was CE she never negotiate with any one of lol
I don't know how to comprehend this.
Wasn't there a private clip / statement / recording stating she wanted to quit /resign but China wouldn't let her. Now she wants to prove herself?

If I was the Chinese gov't. "Carrie, you want one country, two systems, you deal with this shit yourself."

If I was leading right now, I would be like.. FUCK THIS SHIT, i'm outta here. I'm stepping down. ahahahahha

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