HK government confirmed they didn't?

even if they didn't, i'm curious if you're still daft enough to think sweeping is considered military intervention

and just because i dont support violent protests/shutting down a city for nearly half a year and counting doesnt mean i'm a Mainlander

go back and read the first few pages, i was on the peaceful protest side....after the airport incident, fuck that.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-time-protests

SCMP is owned by Alibaba. So don't accuse them of being pro-democracy fake news.

So yes, they broke the law. Again, making comments without understanding or researching the situation just makes you look stupid.

What I meant is the court is on the side of being fair and impartial regardless of the mandate of the ruling government.

This is very different from the system in China, it is an important difference especially to mainlander as this is a complete foreign concept and it highlight why Honger is protecting the current system they have.

A major arguement on the Pro-CCP side is that China has already given Hong Kong alot of freedom. Which they are not wrong, but the difference HK has vs China is what happens when such is taken away. Right and freedom is given by the government on the mainland side. Where as these rights are inherit to every person in HK and the court system actively protects these rights.

You're sounding like that dumb chick that was interviewed by Tim Sebastian, the rhetoric of "if u don't agree with us entirely then u must be pro CCP/50cent" is beyond juvenile, it's just sad, and also shows a lack of responsibility for your own bs

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In other news, the protesters really dun goofed on the university siege. I don't really get the point of barricading yourself in a place where you can't get out.

feel bad for the parents of those kids
https://twitter.com/SCMPHongKong/sta...als-and-police

A lot of them are just students who got caught up in it. Police surrounded immediately, and they couldn't leave, whether they are a protester or not. Every time they tried, police would swam onto them. Every time the police advanced, they were fired upon with bricks, molotovs, and field arrows. So the students and protesters counted on the radicals (who they, in a lot of ways, disagree with - read up on that with the CUHK siege last week) to defend the school overnight. Police let some people out - medics (who they arrested) and press (who they arrested if not fully accredited). Anyone else got arrested, so the fighting continued.

I'm not sure how many are still in there now. Police let the Red Cross go in after about 18 hours, and there are reports of some having to perform CPR. Other people and protesters are trying to distract the police in TST, and there's a call for a major protest in 3 hours. It's going to be a warzone tonight.

Yesterday I mentioned the cop that got suspended for shooting that press member in the back. Well they are PISSED about that, and are going to take it out on whoever they get their hands on.

Edit: 100 still trapped, school principals want to try to get them out safely

They are not allowed to interfere in internal matters of Hong Kong PERIOD. They can't leave the barracks unannounced PERIOD.

We have enough money to hire a billion cleaners to clean. We don't need the military to come out of their barracks uninvited shouting slogans and breaking our laws in the process.

This whole crisis was caused by Beijing's meddling and having the PLA disregard our laws to interfere further worsens public trust and inflames the situation.

The lack of political acumen in the CCP is what brought us here today. Thank god none of you guys are leaders.

They should've appointed a more moderate leader like Jasper Tsang. He is communist through and through but has respect from all sides of the political spectrum. At least he understands sometimes banging your head on the same wall 100 times won't change the outcome. Too bad he is already too old and can't control the hardliners in the party.

lol its a good thing the PLA cleaned up the streets then, saved some money, and prevented the risk of more ppl getting murdered/set on fire trying to clean up the streets.

Surprised violent protesters such as you weren't on the streets trying to attack them :lol

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Ignore the trolls twdm. They are useless. Don't let them get a rise out of you, it's not worth it.



Back to the news, there are currently hundreds, if not thousands of citizens descending on PolyU, in an attempt to rescue the hundred or so protesters and students and other citizens still stuck inside. Some are actively engaging with police, and others are participating in peaceful sit ins (and subsequently being tear gassed by police).

Some people were able to leave via humanitarian means, since there were some that were critically injured and sick (hypothermia after being water cannoned, and a cold night which followed).

It's insane that we're seeing a citizen's force fighting the police to rescue some kids. All the police have to do is literally turn around, go home, and everyone will leave the school. The protesters could then start the 2 week non-action phase that has been talked about.

But nope, they are not there to keep the peace, all they want to do is get their hands on them, at all costs


https://i.redd.it/733ojuvudfz31.jpg

I mean if they really wanted to get their hands on them, they'd just go in, storm all buildings, and arrest them all.

The day ppl suggest police to turn back, and let violent kids go home, you know reason and logic has left the field

And when you tell the troll to ignore the trolls, you know you've lost it

They tried to storm the school for something like 18 hours, it didn't work. Let me repeat that: they are laying siege on a university. Police and protesters were injured, and property damaged. So what's the alternative? Oh keep doing it of course, until someone dies. Most people arrested in the school won't have charges stick anyway, since you can't prove who did what. Only that they were in the vicinity. Remember, HK still has fair courts. That's why the police are taking punishment into their own hands whenever they can. The courts will never see things their way, until they replace all judges with corrupt mainland judges.

If the most peaceful option of walking away isn't to your liking, what do you want as an alternative? Because putting them into police custody is not considered a viable option, if you look at how they're treated. Or just an importantly, how they think they'd be treated (and a reason they aren't coming out to surrender). Social workers, school principals, community leaders have tried coaxing them out in peace, but in the end they're worried they'll be torn to shreds by cops. So what's the peaceful option? Seriously now. Take their ID and deal with them later? Or if detainment is a must for you, would you maybe put them in the custody of a hospital or something?

And don't try telling me you're not trolling. You've proven to have critical thinking capability in the past. I can agree that there are some people in this thread stupid enough to think that the chinese army is cleaning the bricks out of the kindness of their hearts (while making sure to wear shirts that tell everyone they they are in anti terrorist units that have never been stationed here before), and that they are beyond reproach, but not you. Unless you've lost your fucking mind in the last week, who knows. I don't think you're an idiot, and I'll let it slide if you never admit that you were trolling, but I don't see the point of continuing on your trajectory.

Around 50 people escaped to safety using ropes to climb down, escaping on bikes ridden by citizens

This is almost surreal, but also inspiring

Edit: Principals and others convinced some of the kids (some under 16 years old) to surrender peacefully. Police agreed not to arrest them (oh look, showing some civility after all). Some of the hardcores weren't happy about it:

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but wasn't the extradition bill cancelled? The thing that started this whole fiasco?
Why are people still protesting? Why is this slow motion train wreck still on course?
TIA for the logical explanation :)

I think and many can correct me if I'm wrong but there were 5 demands. The removal of the bill was just 1 of them, still 4 more demands that have not been met.

But really at this point I don't even know if it's about the 5 demands or not, it has gone so far on either side I forget what the hell is even going on anymore.

People are protesting on police brutality and the displeasure of the government on how it is handling this whole situation.

The train wreck is still ongoing because you have a leaderless protest which continues to grow and a leaderless government where the CE is more worried about her PR than taking action in public. She has been hiding from the public and media for the past week and throwing her senior staff into the front line to be grilled.

A big slap in the face for the CE and her ExCo "advisor"

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...protests-ruled

i'm well aware who owns the morning post

the great majority of the articles i've been reading from them are fairly balanced....some do side with protesters, some with the clean up efforts

so please, keep calling me a maindlander when i'm not and project your own stupid assumptions

SkinnyPupp it's unfortunate i now have to question how you see perceive legitimate arguments

the trolling is happening right in front of your eyes and you choose to brand others who disagree as trolls instead

alibaba ain't that friendly to the ccp when alipay processes more money than the PBOC

Well fuck me. According to China, the law courts in Hong Kong don't have the right to rule on law - only China does.