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euromoron 08-01-2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gilly (Post 8955493)
A lot of ppl on VCC fb group backing up Matt.

Of course, because he's a mod of VCC and has the power to delete posts/comments that he doesn't agree with.

bcedhk 08-01-2019 12:23 PM

a quick look at Matt's FB and his comments = certified sketchy used car salesman

-cheap suits
-cheesy tattoo
-mirror selfies
-Starts apology with "I'm not perfect... but....."
-Says "you don't understand....." to people who question his tactics

dorian 08-01-2019 12:44 PM

ive heard of a few dealers who give out gift cards if you give them a 5 star review on the spot

nexusxv 08-01-2019 12:48 PM

Ok, recently imported the funny car for 19 grands (auction fees+car), when it landed it costed 22-23(customs duty port fees), to licence and pass inspection 24-25(make DOT complaint). Yep, that is why i do it myself, a bit of gambling, but no one guarantee you anything anyway and old car is still old car. MR2 traveled on a flat bed to home (ECU capacitors), bad wheel bearing, rusted exaust + fresh tires, aluminium coffin's cooling system was full of rust + fresh tires. Even Chaser with 30k on odo had leaking shocks + fresh tires. Generally was lucky.

The only pain is customs visit and inspection. But if you know what to do question of 3-6 hours and you pick up yourself from a port, which is fun part as you get surprise basically.

GS8 08-01-2019 01:59 PM

Is this part of the reason why I see so many old JDMs with Toys R Us interiors selling for high teens / low 30s? Are they, too, people who made a retarded decision based on fanboyism and are now regretting it?

123654123 08-01-2019 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SpuGen (Post 8955491)
REVScene.net has no affiliation with Applewood or JDM North and any person associated with either business. We're a public forum for the local community. So feel free to compile and use this thread for shit talking all you want.

Unless Matt wants to sponsor.
But until that happens. Go for it.

2019 Revscene Summer Meet Sponsored by Applewood :fuckyea: see you all there

bcedhk 08-01-2019 02:53 PM

it's all good at applewood ~

tofu1413 08-01-2019 03:35 PM

sub'ed.

toyota86 08-01-2019 08:17 PM

I've imported a couple of cars for my personal use over the years. The process isn't that hard once you do it a couple times. If you are able to find a reliable agent overseas that can deal with the Japanese side of things for you, that's even better. There are certain costs that you can't get away with even if you don't go through a local dealer. Basically everyone who has to do anything with the car the moment you decide to bid has to get paid. Typically, your agent, agent in Japan, local Japan transporters, selling dealer or auction house in Japan, vehicle shipping company, receiving company at Canadian docks, local cdn transporting company, cbsa/government, icbc, provincial inspection/repair facility, vehicle brokers, banks, foreign currency exchange, all the people processing the paperwork, everyone needs a cut. All this gets added to the winning bid price of the car. If you add a local dealer into the mix, then the amount of parties that needs a cut pretty much doubles. Basically, for anyone wanting to import, the more leg work you are willing to do, to cut down on the amount of people that needs a cut for their services, the less money you will need to spend to get your car landed. Real PSA: All dealers are scammers. Over promise, under deliver. Every single one.

The Producer 08-01-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by toyota86 (Post 8955529)
Real PSA: All dealers are scammers. Over promise, under deliver. Every single one. except tofu

FTFY :alone:

tofu1413 08-01-2019 09:30 PM

cant disagree with toyota86

more people involve, more to cut.

toyota86 08-01-2019 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 8955535)
FTFY :alone:

Tofu isn't a dealer. He just works for one. Some people who work at dealers are nice, decent people. It's the dealership model and what it represents that's scum.

trollface 08-02-2019 07:04 AM

Ppl are financing old ass 35k JDM cars? That car looks kinnda beat for 35k. Damn, is this how everyone rolls around in super nice cars?

tofu1413 08-02-2019 07:50 AM

$40k down, I can get you a lease on a MP4-12C for less than a new 7 series.

westopher 08-02-2019 08:40 AM

Does it come in manual?

tofu1413 08-02-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8955571)
Does it come in manual?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1479_.jpg


I will work with a software engineer and make this work in the 650S or MP4-12C.

:fuckyea:

E90M3 08-02-2019 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilly (Post 8955493)
A lot of ppl on VCC fb group backing up Matt.

Because they don't want to get banned from the group lol. I got banned because I made fun of some kid for being useless when that Red Mustang got stolen last year.

westopher 08-02-2019 12:28 PM

People should just leave the group if a mod/admin is scamming. I got kicked out of the e36 group on FB for calling out the Admin for lying about dealer costs and availability of parts lol.

GS8 08-02-2019 12:33 PM

I feel like being an admin for a FB group is like being the leader of your treehouse club

http://i.imgur.com/ZGWem.jpg

TouringTeg 08-02-2019 02:55 PM

Too much power. I've seen it on a MK4 Supra group in the US which was run by a flipper and his friends. They would use admin powers for all sorts of ways to make money and screw others out of deals.

F**k Facebook.

threezero 08-02-2019 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyota86 (Post 8955529)
I've imported a couple of cars for my personal use over the years. The process isn't that hard once you do it a couple times. If you are able to find a reliable agent overseas that can deal with the Japanese side of things for you, that's even better. There are certain costs that you can't get away with even if you don't go through a local dealer. Basically everyone who has to do anything with the car the moment you decide to bid has to get paid. Typically, your agent, agent in Japan, local Japan transporters, selling dealer or auction house in Japan, vehicle shipping company, receiving company at Canadian docks, local cdn transporting company, cbsa/government, icbc, provincial inspection/repair facility, vehicle brokers, banks, foreign currency exchange, all the people processing the paperwork, everyone needs a cut. All this gets added to the winning bid price of the car. If you add a local dealer into the mix, then the amount of parties that needs a cut pretty much doubles. Basically, for anyone wanting to import, the more leg work you are willing to do, to cut down on the amount of people that needs a cut for their services, the less money you will need to spend to get your car landed. Real PSA: All dealers are scammers. Over promise, under deliver. Every single one.

Thats exactly it. The more people involve the more it cost. The overhead of a dealership is insane. Not defending Matt but complaining that a car dealership is $$$$$ comparing to doing it yourself is the most pointless argument in the world. I think most people realize that you can import a car for alot less but when you go to a dealership you are expecting all of that to be taken care of for a price. The surcharge goes to upkeep the business and paying the salary of all those that work for said business. Who know one of those guys might turn around and spent money at a business that you own or you work for who also up charges to keep the machine ticking.

Canada economy as a whole is a service economy. I'm sure Applewood has done their homework and priced their cars appropriately to make sure everybody in the corporation get pay accordingly. And there is an insane amount of people and resource that goes to running a dealership.

Matt may have done a piss poor job explaining all the fees etc that lead to this guy thinking he got screw. But if anything happens to Matt and he gets replaced. Guess what Applewood is still going charge what they charge.

Don't like being overcharge? Well you can definitely take on the headache and do it yourself. And some people do. The reality of running is business is some people are going to be unhappy. There are zero business in the world with a 100% satisfaction rate, and people tend to zoom in on the negative comment.

twitchyzero 08-02-2019 08:56 PM

because high overhead and poor job explaining fee is pathetic excuse for

1. doing unauthorized work already declined by the buyer multiple times
2. silent treatment from the finance staff
3. worst of fucking all, a finance turned in a lease? how in the fuck?!

buyer obviously should've been smarter (a non-refundable deposit with a BC dealer network?) but this sounds predatory at best

threezero 08-02-2019 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8955638)
because high overhead and poor job explaining fee is pathetic excuse for

1. doing unauthorized work already declined by the buyer multiple times
2. silent treatment from the finance staff
3. worst of fucking all, a finance turned in a lease? how in the fuck?!

buyer obviously should've been smarter (a non-refundable deposit with a BC dealer network?) but this sounds predatory at best

To be very specific. I was just referring to the high prices of these imported cars
Not the behaviour of the people involve.

tofu1413 08-03-2019 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8955638)
because high overhead and poor job explaining fee is pathetic excuse for

1. doing unauthorized work already declined by the buyer multiple times
2. silent treatment from the finance staff
3. worst of fucking all, a finance turned in a lease? how in the fuck?!

buyer obviously should've been smarter (a non-refundable deposit with a BC dealer network?) but this sounds predatory at best



RHD cars don't have financing unless in house (applewood being their own bank and will charge 8-15% rates) or Leasing based on $1 residuals.

k3mps 08-08-2019 05:11 PM

I must be missing something but can someone explain how Applewood plays into this?
Are they the company the lease or payments are being made to on Colin's behalf?

I don't see how Applewood fits into the import and purchase of the vehicle?
I have seen an R34 or two in their showroom in Langley so do they have a division I'm unaware of?


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