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you! 07-31-2019 09:20 PM

**PSA: Local Dealership Scams Customer Out of 10k**
 
This experience was not directly by me but as a fellow car enthusiast I think this is very immoral and pisses me the fuck off to see this happen to people so I thought I should spread the word out.

Summary:

- Casually scrolling thru fb and came across the post, when I read the 2nd paragraph and realized the admins were most likely gonna delete the post I took screenshots right away. The fb group admins are all ran by the dealership

- After reading through the content which literally took less than 2 minutes I attempted to like the post to follow it but couldn't as it immediately got deleted and the OP also banned

- I messaged op directly to get more info and he states that he was scammed out of 10k and was not able to back out of the deal as he made an insanely huge deposit

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The Producer 07-31-2019 09:50 PM

these guys are bush league - everybody knows that. who finances a JDM import? certainly not a real bank. you are dealing w "alternative financing" if you do this through these guys.

doesn't seem like you're the buyer OP. that's a lot of specific messenger questions. - just a concerned citizen?

you! 07-31-2019 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 8955432)
doesn't seem like you're the buyer OP. that's a lot of specific messenger questions. - just a concerned citizen?

I have 2 jdm imports myself so I'm familiar with the entire process thats why this stuff irritates me and I thought it would be worth sharing to save others from potential headache

BIC_BAWS 07-31-2019 10:20 PM

That's concerning. Especially considering I was interested in a vehicle with them.

underscore 07-31-2019 10:20 PM

Apparently JDM North cut ties with Applewood as of today. JDM North seemed like good guys but Applewood always seemed to be doing weird stuff that seemed a bit off. Like the "contest" they started last winter where they were asking people to give them reviews to enter, and once they sold 50 JDM cars they'd give away an Altezza. Since then I can't say I've seen any update on that so it kinda seems like just a way to get a bunch of bogus 5 star reviews and not actually give away a car.

BIC_BAWS 07-31-2019 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8955437)
Like the "contest" they started last winter where they were asking people to give them reviews to enter, and once they sold 50 JDM cars they'd give away an Altezza. Since then I can't say I've seen any update on that so it kinda seems like just a way to get a bunch of bogus 5 star reviews and not actually give away a car.


This is actually against Google's bylaws. You cannot, at any point, ask for people to give you a review for a reward. Also 5 star reviews are useless LOL. No one actually believes a company can have 5 stars (100 reviews). 4.5 is actually the number you want.

yray 07-31-2019 10:37 PM

applewood? so they part of the applewood Nissan, kia etc?

twitchyzero 07-31-2019 10:49 PM

i dont get it...he paid 10k deposit, did he actually pay the rest of the rip-off pricing just to accept delivery? or the dealer still has it with his deposit

and financing Skylines?
GT-R or bust

BIC_BAWS 07-31-2019 10:49 PM

https://www.facebook.com/stephan.lar...92885014096566

Read Matt's comments on this


Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8955442)
i dont get it...he paid 10k deposit, did he paid the rest of the rip-off pricing to get the car? or the dealer still has it with his deposit

and financing Skylines?
GT-R or bust


It was agreed upon that it was a lease. When asked about it, Matt said "oh i thought I told you"

prelude_prince 07-31-2019 11:07 PM

I imported a JDM NSX a few years ago to Hong Kong. After dealing with an incident where some idiot in a forklift rammed the car at the port, I vowed not to import another car again and buy only local with service history. After the incident I just heard too many shady things and grey area jobs regarding imports and importers.

In short what happened to me was after my car was crashed, the importer took possession of my car, (after I chose to not take possession of it, seeing as there was slight frame damage) so I while I wasn't out anything from a full refund, I learnt the car was sold locally. Since the car was never registered yet in HK, this 'incident' was never recorded. So some poor guy bought the car thinking it was clean car paying that value, while the importer made money from fixing the car at his own expense using the insurance payout from the most expensive bodyshop, and made bank both sides.

I heard actually this happens more than you think. A lot of the cars actually get damaged during the long logistics importing process.

So while I understand the need to import JDMs. I guess not just for imports but buyer beware for everything, make sure you trust the shop and also to do your own research on the car you are looking at.

BIC_BAWS 07-31-2019 11:25 PM

https://www.facebook.com/Ryu.Fujisan...30679110510525


Rob's response


Quote:

Good evening everyone, I'd like to ask that we spread some awareness about an issue happening tonight.


I ended my partnership with Applewood and have since received a lot of support for the decision, but I have also been brought to attention that people are using this as an opportunity to express their distaste towards their business, or previous experiences. I want to say that I do not condone this behavior and it holds an image that ties to my decision, and I'd like to ask that it discontinues promptly. My intention was not to start a fire with my decision, it was to shine some light on a very ambiguous situation that has lead to the full independence of my business once again and in no means necessary an excuse to retaliate against Matt Burnett or Applewood.


I ask that anyone who has been instigating any form of conflict towards Matt or their business to put it on hold until this smoke clears and address your situations directly with Matt because that is not only the right thing to do but also the mature and responsible thing to do. I, or JDM North do not have bad blood with Applewood and do not intend to create such towards them. I simply feel like our expectations have fallen out of alignment with each other and taking this out on either Matt or Applewood directly or indirectly is simply unfair. Please think about what is being said and how it may reflect on others before making the decision to move forward with these statements. Nobody is perfect and we are all human, please have the capacity to keep this in mind with what I am asking of such a great community.


Thank you kindly for your ever growing support, I am looking forward to working with all of you, and thanks for listening to my request.


R.Fujisan.



you! 07-31-2019 11:35 PM

clearly another reason why jdm north cut ties with them, Rob probably realized how the dealership was taking advantage of their customers and didn't want anything to do with them any longer otherwise even their own business name would be affected

SpeedStars 07-31-2019 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prelude_prince (Post 8955444)
Spoiler!
Since the car was never registered yet in HK, this 'incident' was never recorded. So some poor guy bought the car thinking it was clean car paying that value, while the importer made money from fixing the car at his own expense using the insurance payout from the most expensive bodyshop, and made bank both sides.

I heard actually this happens more than you think. A lot of the cars actually get damaged during the long logistics importing process.

Spoiler!

Yep. Even in our ports, same things happen to new cars fresh off the boat. There could be slight damage as they make the long journey or damage while they are at the Port from a multitude of different factors. As long as it hasn't been registered, it's still technically a *new* car. Then they're fixed and unsuspecting buyers are unaware that their *new* car actually just came outta the body shop last week with mismatched bumper paint.

you! 07-31-2019 11:51 PM

i think the bigger issue here though is the mysterious 10k hidden charge when the bill finally came since the dealer specifically mentioned that the bodywork was only going to be 1300 and this is also considering the fact that the owner insisted that he doesn't really want to fix the dings but the dealership kept on pushing him to do so

BIC_BAWS 08-01-2019 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by you! (Post 8955448)
clearly another reason why jdm north cut ties with them, Rob probably realized how the dealership was taking advantage of their customers and didn't want anything to do with them any longer otherwise even their own business name would be affected

That's speculation. Read Rob's post. He asks you to specifically not speculate on his reasons of ending the partnership.

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SkunkWorks 08-01-2019 04:53 AM

OP has a lot more restraint than me. I can't imagine being out 10k and only throwing up a FB post that 'isn't meant to throw shade' and not pursuing any further.

CorneringArtist 08-01-2019 07:19 AM

Must be "reconditioning fees" and just plain markup. Some of the cars on there are worth half that, and sometimes Velocity of all people are better for what you get.

Import yourself, and at least there's a few people on this side who can help with OOP and processing.

68style 08-01-2019 07:47 AM

Dang... who pays $35k for a busted ass looking R34 with crazy wrong offset wheels

Kasanova08 08-01-2019 08:04 AM

There are other reasons why rob fujisan and Matt went separate ways. Applewood has been working with another importer for atleast a month if not alot longer. Apparently rob refused to bid on a r34 nur spec and someone was mad about the blue rx7 blowing up. Being that said neither of them are good people rob fujisan is not his Real name. He is just as big of a snake as Matt. I have close friends that have been completely ripped off by him and ghosted. He hides and makes fake import fees while sitting in a apartment in Calgary on a computer not actually helping anyone. He sells cars to people in bc because he cant compete with Alberta importers because they dont RIP people off. Just ask him about what it costs to bring something in then ask a couple other people and you'll see his numbers are completely off. I have multiple customers/friends that have come to me about this

Dragon-88 08-01-2019 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8955469)
Dang... who pays $35k for a busted ass looking R34 with crazy wrong offset wheels

That's cause their mentality is, if the customer doesn't complain then its not our fault. The customer has to complain first. Like really you guys can't do your own quality control? I'm sure they're milking a fee for it.

ForeverYours 08-01-2019 09:39 AM

Financing an old JDM car has to be one of the worst decisions out there.
Applewood essentially tacking $15k on top of a car that looks heavily beat up for $20k
:heckno::rukidding:

I'm under the assumption the deposit was non-refundable which means Applewood can do whatever they want to bend over the customer afterwards. They could have tacked 20k in "extra fees" and the buyer would be screwed over if this was not discussed and agreed to prior to making the deposit.
If the deposit was refundable I would have walked away from having to deal with them.

Is the R34 considered a car under lease? I'd make them take it back and fully refund everything with how this is playing out.

68style 08-01-2019 10:07 AM

^
Hah... well... your heart is in the right place, but I'd like to see you try, that would be very entertaining. And probably unsuccessful.

underscore 08-01-2019 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 8955438)
This is actually against Google's bylaws. You cannot, at any point, ask for people to give you a review for a reward. Also 5 star reviews are useless LOL. No one actually believes a company can have 5 stars (100 reviews). 4.5 is actually the number you want.

FB reviews, but I assume they have the same rules. Even if it isn't against the rules, if the giveaway is legit I'd expect to see updates on it throughout the year. I asked for an update on it a few months back and got nothing.

SpuGen 08-01-2019 10:50 AM

REVScene.net has no affiliation with Applewood or JDM North and any person associated with either business. We're a public forum for the local community. So feel free to compile and use this thread for shit talking all you want.

Unless Matt wants to sponsor.
But until that happens. Go for it.

gilly 08-01-2019 11:20 AM

A lot of ppl on VCC fb group backing up Matt.


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