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Old 09-11-2019, 06:24 AM   #26
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In the dry, however, 120kph is perfectly reasonable imo. In no way, I am saying to treat the road like a track, with my follow sentence. However, I'm sure the 120kph around bends and what not, will seem less scary if you actually know how to drive your car. Go to an autox / lapping day and learn the limits of your car. My brother who just got his license isn't into cars at all, but I'd want him to do an HPDE event so he can learn the limits of the car - and stay within it.

That said, it seems like most people of the general population only know how to drive in a straight line. Most people are scared of the sea to sky (ffs), scared of making turns on the one section on 91 at 90kph (ffs), so I'm not sure wtf they're thinking when they decided to drive on the Coq. Take a fucking tour bus or a HPDE course and learn how to drive.
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you can bet when it's hailing/raining people will still be doing 15-20kph over, following too close, running on bald tires, a light or three burnt, too tired/texting etc.

some of the wide flat sections like on the island can remain 130kph limit or even increase by a bit...i have no problems blasting down some interstate at almost 90mph when limit is 80 and feel completely in control...i didn't feel that way in coq on some turns at 120kph

closed events/controlled environments like HPDE is a different beast all together...you're not likely gonna have a deer jump out at you in a corner
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:58 AM   #27
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A 10km/h bump in speed limits can represent 100 or more extra km many professional drivers can travel in a day this is the difference between making it home to Vancouver one night or having to stay in Hope for 8 additional hours while you reset your hours.
That sounds great in theory, but in a lot of places semis seem to struggle to be even vaguely near the existing speed limit. You could set the limit as high as you want but if the truck can only manage 80 it's not going to make a lick of difference in how long it takes them to get somewhere.
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To be honest, I wouldn't change my driving habits any differently regardless if signs got bumped or decreased a bit. If people are incapable of gauging what's a good speed to go based on the weather conditions, traffic situation, the capabilities of their car, etc... I really question if they should be driving at all.

Maybe in a perfect world..
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To be honest, I wouldn't change my driving habits any differently regardless if signs got bumped or decreased a bit. If people are incapable of gauging what's a good speed to go based on the weather conditions, traffic situation, the capabilities of their car, etc... I really question if they should be driving at all.

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Your feelings are common in a huge portion of the motoring community - a lot of research says that many people just drive the fastest speed they f eel comfortable with, regardless of the limit. I am one of those people.

If that is true of most people, then the only point of a low speed limit is essentially revenue generation. What I would support is raising the speed limits and then making tickets MUCH more expensive. Doing 50-60km/h for almost half of the Barnet highway is nothing short of absurd; if it had a proper 100km/h limit, I would support a $500+ ticket for exceeding it.

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there are deer x-ing signs on barnet near the port moody end

whereas lions bay on the 99 at 60kph seems less like a safety consideration but likely more for noise reduction
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If that is true of most people
Lets be honest here, most people are not members of the motoring community. Most people have zero interest in driving and need their hand held through every little thing because they can't figure anything out themselves.
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Your feelings are common in a huge portion of the motoring community - a lot of research says that many people just drive the fastest speed they f eel comfortable with, regardless of the limit. I am one of those people.

If that is true of most people, then the only point of a low speed limit is essentially revenue generation. What I would support is raising the speed limits and then making tickets MUCH more expensive. Doing 50-60km/h for almost half of the Barnet highway is nothing short of absurd; if it had a proper 100km/h limit, I would support a $500+ ticket for exceeding it.

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As much as I'd love that. Its a hard battle.. Buses having stops and all the intersections, you would literally have to change the infrastructure there to raise the limits.

Then again the average person doesn't understand the physics and proper driving lines and always crosses solid lines or will come into your lane on a curve. Instead of adjusting their speed and line. Most of the time its taking a corner to short. With cars becoming faster, you need to adjust your driving habit to it, which a lot of people wont learn.
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