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Manic! 11-24-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8967494)


I'm sure there are, just as some police departments have Lamborghinis and GTRs. They're specialty vehicles and are not the norm in their fleet. I'm sure they'll all be clean energy vehicles one day but this is not it. With today's attitude towards police, do you really think they want to be rolling around in authoritarian looking vehicles?

Used as a patrol car. Plan to replace the whole fleet with Tesla's.




This is what police use in the states now.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/9...2-1200x800.jpg

!LittleDragon 11-24-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8967497)
Used as a patrol car. Plan to replace the whole fleet with Tesla's.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6KTAzaGWNA


Bargersville is less than 5 square miles with a population of 4000. They can get away with an electric car if they're just sitting at the station most of the time.

twitchyzero 11-24-2019 03:34 PM

which sharp edge are you referring to? doesn't seem any significantly more dangerous to peds than say a Suburban or other 6000 lbs bricks

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?res...6420783001731c

let's say this really does break hips ,they simply just add another flat plane, done

twitchyzero 11-24-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8967496)
No side mirrors is still illegal at the moment

How about the rear end edges that will take your kids eye out if they are playing around it in the front yard?

quite a few EV are forgoing side mirrors for cameras to reduce drag...and honestly Tesla features like Smart Summon are illegal, yes in production vehicles in the thousands on our roads right now...doesn't mean they're gonna get taken off the road, just gonna take a while for legislation/public reaction to catch up to what's acceptable in society

your last statement sounds like fear of the unkown, if you're really worried just bubble wrap it

https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content...4444601543.jpg

Manic! 11-24-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8967500)
Bargersville is less than 5 square miles with a population of 4000. They can get away with an electric car if they're just sitting at the station most of the time.

Fremont pop over 230k


Luxembourg police have 2 pop 600k.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-l...-idUSKBN1KA1I0

And more coming.

twitchyzero 11-24-2019 04:08 PM

even though i think the model 3 front end is a joke that the model X looks worse than a 90s Previa, don't forget von Holzhausen was the one who brought us the Furai

https://www.car-revs-daily.com/wp-co...gic-Ends-6.jpg

!LittleDragon 11-24-2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8967501)
which sharp edge are you referring to? doesn't seem any significantly more dangerous to peds than say a Suburban or other 6000 lbs bricks

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?res...6420783001731c

let's say this really does break hips ,they simply just add another flat plane, done

I probably should've said edges and corners. The corners above the headlights could cut someone easily. There's no way this can pass pedestrian safety crash tests as is. I can see them bringing that lower front bumper forward. I don't think the hood is allowed to be further forward than the bumper like that.

MarkyMark 11-24-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8967502)
quite a few EV are forgoing side mirrors for cameras to reduce drag...and honestly Tesla features like Smart Summon are illegal, yes in production vehicles in the thousands on our roads right now...doesn't mean they're gonna get taken off the road, just gonna take a while for legislation/public reaction to catch up to what's acceptable in society

your last statement sounds like fear of the unkown, if you're really worried just bubble wrap it

I just don't think they'll release a truck with a point like that. Loading and unloading shit out of your bed and you have to watch from catching yourself on a jagged edge as you come around the side all in the name of style?

!LittleDragon 11-24-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8967504)
Luxembourg police have 2 pop 600k.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-l...-idUSKBN1KA1I0

And more coming.

Both are pilot projects. From the article

"But Lentz said it was too early to say whether Luxembourg would buy more Tesla cars. Local media said the police had paid some 100,000 euros ($116,450) for each car due to special police requirements. Police declined to confirm the figure."

Life of a police vehicle is rough. That's a lot of money to spend on something that could be wrecked the next day because they had to purposely ram another vehicle. Got some interesting results googling for "Tesla police car" though.

Koflach 11-24-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8967500)
Bargersville is less than 5 square miles with a population of 4000. They can get away with an electric car if they're just sitting at the station most of the time.

you do know the model 3 has a range of over 300 miles or 500 km.

!LittleDragon 11-24-2019 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Koflach (Post 8967518)
you do know the model 3 has a range of over 300 miles or 500 km.

Yes I do... that's why I said it's okay for a small town. It's okay if they forget to plug the car in once in a while.

Manic! 11-24-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8967524)
Yes I do... that's why I said it's okay for a small town. It's okay if they forget to plug the car in once in a while.

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/29...w-battery-fud/

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“Our Department has unfortunately been in the news this week for an incident involving our electric police patrol vehicle (Tesla Model S). We first deployed the Tesla in March of this year as a fully outfitted patrol vehicle. Over the first six months, the performance feedback and initial data collection has been very positive and we are in early discussions of expanding the program. During a pursuit last Friday night, the battery charge began to run low, and we’d like the opportunity to clarify and provide additional context with regard to what occurred.

“On Friday afternoon, a patrol officer checked out our Tesla patrol vehicle at the start of his shift and noticed the battery was half-charged. A typical battery at full charge ranges from 220–240 miles and during an 11 hour patrol shift, Fremont patrol officers drive approximately 70–90 miles. While not policy, we recommend officers begin their shift with at least a half tank of gas or in this case, a battery charge of 50%. On this date, our officer driving the Tesla noted approximately 50% of battery life when he began his shift. While the vehicle is routinely charged between shifts, on Friday the vehicle had just been returned from our Corporation Yard. The vehicle is regularly returning at the end of every shift with 40–60%, if not more, of the battery charge remaining.

“Nine hours into the officer’s shift, at 11:05 p.m., he became involved in a vehicle pursuit that lasted a total of 8 minutes. The pursuit began in our Irvington District and traveled on Washington Blvd., before merging southbound onto I 680 towards San Jose. Within minutes, two additional Fremont patrol units were behind the Tesla and in the pursuit. Additionally, the California Highway Patrol (CHP) was notified and responding. As standard protocol, once CHP has sufficient units, they take over our pursuits on the freeway.

Koflach 11-24-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8967527)

Yeah, stuff like this is going to happen during the growing pains of new technology being introduced to people who aren't use to it but this is clearly the exception and not the rule. Hopefully this is a lesson learned for the member and they know that they should stop for a donut and get a charge.

Harvey Specter 11-24-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8967501)
which sharp edge are you referring to? doesn't seem any significantly more dangerous to peds than say a Suburban or other 6000 lbs bricks

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?res...6420783001731c

let's say this really does break hips ,they simply just add another flat plane, done


Lol, there is no way this truck in it's current form would be approved for road use.

twitchyzero 11-25-2019 12:00 AM

i'm no iihs officer but i ain't too concerned esp when these are on the roads

https://imagescdn.dealercarsearch.co...6729479120.jpg

https://image.iol.co.za/image/1/proc...size=2000x1123

MarkyMark 11-25-2019 05:30 AM

To be fair, at least we know the driver is awake in those vehicles.

SkinnyPupp 11-25-2019 06:24 AM

Size comparison between Model 3 and Cybertruck

https://i.imgur.com/QHa3iJC.png

It's as big as it is fugly and these damn things will be everywhere lol DansGame

Hondaracer 11-25-2019 07:26 AM

In terms of a commercial success as well, this truck is pretty much 100% relying on the North American market.

Tesla’s and EV’s in general are almost non existent in Europe. Even places like London you’d be hard pressed to spot a handful over a few days. And almost no one drives half tonne pickups over there, let alone this thing

GIZZ 11-25-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8967382)
If you think a welder would ever buy this thing you’ve never met a welder lol.

As much as they want to tote this as some kind of trades solution, I can pretty much guarantee you this thing ain’t gonna be parked at many job sites.

Also, it will be a decade or more before EV trucks ever have the long range towing payload of a one tonne or 3/4 tonne diesel. The guy with the 3500 Cummins will be in Calgary towing a 5th wheel trailer a day and a half before the Tesla has made its 6th stop to charge in the kootneys

For long range, stick a diesel(or gas) generator in the bed. Basically made your own diesel hybrid vehicle. For sure somebody will market this.

twitchyzero 11-25-2019 09:41 AM

if you want a hybrid get the upcoming Tundra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8967557)
In terms of a commercial success as well, this truck is pretty much 100% relying on the North American market.

Tesla’s and EV’s in general are almost non existent in Europe. Even places like London you’d be hard pressed to spot a handful over a few days. And almost no one drives half tonne pickups over there, let alone this thing

same can be said about any pick-ups (possibly some niches like Australia too)...regardless the home market is massive as a few million units are moved each year

Scandinavia is leading the EV wave

deposits hit 200k yesterday

Manic! 11-25-2019 10:13 AM

When I was in Europe a few years back I saw one pickup truck and it was a F150. Thats one in 11 days.

In my copy of Septembers police law enforcement magazine.

https://i.imgur.com/gVgWfct.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gDkTN9l.jpg

add on armor kit for police cars.

https://i.imgur.com/cg4Ho99.jpg

Dodge Durango pursuit 40K. Now if you add the armor that only covers the front door you are looking at spending close to $45000. Only 15k less than a Tesla truck that's fully covered in armor and thats faster. Add the fuel/maintenance savings plus the better resale value it would be cheaper to get the Tesla.

I wonder how many cans of this you will need to polish the truck.

https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/..._AS01?$zmmain$

yray 11-25-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8967579)
I wonder how many cans of this you will need to polish the truck.


hah, real polishers use this
https://www.calfast.com/16541-m/lacquer-thinner.jpg

twitchyzero 11-25-2019 01:15 PM

doug dee think it's a bad value...but forgot to take into account a truck's awful fuel economy/costs


MarkyMark 11-25-2019 01:22 PM

Let's be honest, even if Tesla made the perfect truck it's going to have a hard time making any kind of significant dent in the pickup market. The brand loyalists have already written it off, it's just the way it is they wouldn't sway if a better truck got up and slapped them in the face. Then you got the people who actually use their truck for work and depend on it for a living. Chances are they're out because the Tesla is unproven. People who tow a lot? Yeah they want to fill up and be on their way, not wait around to charge.

Up next you have guys like me, I don't NEED a truck but I like the versatility of having the bed when I need it and being able to take it places a regular car can't go. I'm out because the Tesla won't fit in my garage and I have no place to charge it outside. Maybe some people have different situations but I'm sure many are in the same boat.

So you're pretty much left with the group of people who buy Nissan Titans and Honda Ridgelines. Go check out how well they have cracked the market. Once Ford drops their electric F150 that number will drop even more. I'm sure their will be some initial craze for it and Tesla won't be able to keep up with the demand cause they make only one truck a day, but I expect it to be a sliver of overall truck sales.

I've been wrong before but that's my guess.

Manic! 11-25-2019 02:00 PM

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Elon Musk
@elonmusk
200k
6:18 PM · Nov 24, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
That's in 3 days. How many Mach E mustangs has ford sold?


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