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Old 03-22-2020, 10:14 PM   #2476
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This is an editorial, not a science report, but an interesting insight on what might be going on in Japan
from the article, it would seem the most plausible explanation is a culture and customs that inherently deter the spread of infectious diseases.
Could be at least one reason they have the highest life expectancy as well.
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Some of us still have to go to work…… luckily laptops are being setup so hopefully I can work from home. I feel sorry for the techs coz even with a lock down they still need to work……
I'm still working but we removed one of our windows and I built a passtru. Parents have stopped working and are finally moving to another house we have.

Stay safe RS and MG1 stay the fuck home.
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I'm still working but we removed one of our windows and I built a passtru. Parents have stopped working and are finally moving to another house we have.

Stay safe RS and MG1 stay the fuck home.
I have to say it's been quite encouraging to see many businesses critically thinking and taking the initiative to make changes that may hurt their bottom line but are the responsible thing to do.
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We have already begun changing our personal protection strategies around the hospital. Up until a week ago, there was a consensus by upper management that wearing a mask was unnecessary and "looked bad". That's changed now and it didn't take long. In the roles I am involved in, we are now to wear gloves and a mask, sanitize in between wards and if necessary dispose of our PPE once finished in particular wards. We are using these things at a completely unprecedented rate. Current supplies will not last as long as you might think. We have also been told to bring a pair of shoes to leave at work. My role in emergency has changed as well. Due to shortage of PPE and to reduce risk of contracting the virus I am now being told to talk to patients via phone. This means either their personal cellphones or with the wireless phone in the department.
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was talking to my colleagues about a month ago and we all agreed asepsis at some hospital departments leaves a lot to be desired and most of this is already no brainer in other areas of health care

hope medical personnel would stop leaving a used mask on their chins after all this...as well as no more scrubs in public

face palm on some of the hospital admin...looking bad for a bloodborne communicable diease sure...this early on was known to be respiratory

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Hong Kong has banned ALL foreign visitors. No more quarantine, you just can't come at all.

This excludes Macau and Taiwan. They can still come, but with a 14 day quarantine (if they'd been elsewhere though, they are also banned.

No ban for China either, despite being the source of the virus, and by far the most infected people.

They have also banned serving alcohol, in an attempt to stop the idiots from being in gatherings. So instead of doing a full lockdown by force, they are attempting to just dissuade people from going out.

Stores can still sell though, so they'll all just go to 7-11 and do the same thing anyway
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So what's the deal with Japan?

-next door to China
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-oldest population in the world
-high number of smokers
-first case reported over 2 months ago
-imposed very few restrictive measures

I mean, you could say that the numbers are due to low testing, but with their aged population and density, you would see a rapid increase in hospitalization if it were attempted to be covered up.
AFAIK the government also doesn't censor social media like China, so i think if their numbers weren't genuinely low you would hear about this from the public.

friend living there says they're not really doing much to prevent it. Kind of like Italy in the beginning. The country apparently wanted to not make a big deal of it in hopes of keeping the Olympics running. Not sure how that'll pan out now...
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No ban for China either, despite being the source of the virus, and by far the most infected people.
Official news atm is China has about 5k still infected. All others have either died or recovered. Not really sure what the real numbers are now, but people are pretty much out on full force in Shanghai ATM, although still temp checks everywhere and everyone have masks still.
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I like how the video thumbnail below in the article is another mainlander hoarding toilet paper.
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FUCK #socialdistancing it's time just to say way from any places people may be. Stay at home unless you absolutely have to go out. Don't go on a cruise/walk or a bike ride just stay at home. What the government is telling you is the bare minimum you should do.
IMO mental health is very important as well. As long as you are cautious(wear gloves for gas pumps, etc.), I don't see the risk of cruising around in your car being very high.

I played some video games this weekend to relax. It did the job but I feel so disconnected from reality. A cruise relaxes me but still connects me to the reality.

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Hong Kong has banned ALL foreign visitors. No more quarantine, you just can't come at all.

This excludes Macau and Taiwan. They can still come, but with a 14 day quarantine (if they'd been elsewhere though, they are also banned.

No ban for China either, despite being the source of the virus, and by far the most infected people.

They have also banned serving alcohol, in an attempt to stop the idiots from being in gatherings. So instead of doing a full lockdown by force, they are attempting to just dissuade people from going out.

Stores can still sell though, so they'll all just go to 7-11 and do the same thing anyway
I doubt Hong Kong has much of a choice with Mainland China anyway...
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JT on TV now. CBC CTV etc etc. there might be more restriction coming......
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I think many govt. are scared to do a complete shutdown because of the repercussions

Some investment guys I follow on Twitter etc had interesting takes and thought bigger employers and industries should have done everything they could to stay open. His reasoning is that who gives a fuck about a virus when you forclose on your mortgage, your family falls apart, and your homeless.

As it’s been said before somthing insane like 35% of people in the states couldn’t weather a $400 unexpected expense, and many don’t qualify for social security etc.
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I'm going to guess that lots of people (especially the elderly) die in China every single day of various reasons. How are you going to confirm if it was or was not Covid19? You going to do a test on the deceased ... every deceased?

Not pro CCP or anti CCP, just one factor to consider in terms of true stats and practicality.
In China at the time it was anyone that tested positive for the virus was counted. However it was noted majority of these deaths were due to an already poor immune system due to pre-existing conditions ie. cancer, high blood pressure, etc etc. MOST healthy people without pre-existing conditions recover worry free.
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I tried to cut my own hair during the month long isolation in China, looked like shit so ended up shaving it. Now I have to wear a hat for 6 months hahaha.
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Anyways brother in law works in a car dealership in Richmond (no names will be mention). And he is a tech there. So instead of trying reduce the risk by only doing necessary maintance their manager have deiced to go the other direction. He is making the reception calls their current customer to come in for general check ups even just oil change, filter change etc etc. If the clients are too scare to go out he gets the tech to drive out to the client place pick up the clients car, drive back to the shop do what they do need to, drive back to the client's place and pick up their car and leave.

In a time where people should not be out and about he makes people work more and even do work that will put them as risk just to fill his own pockets. A lot of the techs and people have decided to take non pay days rather than going to work.
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https://www.cheknews.ca/bc-coronavir...3-2020-657171/

Restaurants to deliver liquor products The BC government said restaurants are now allowed to use their servers to deliver liquor products alongside meals. The new service will continue until at least July 15th.$The province also added existing safeguards for consumption remain in place, including I-D verification.$

BC Housing update to come this week Housing Minister Selina Robinson says help is on the way to ensure renters are not evicted as the province cracks down on the spread of the new coronavirus. An update on rent payments is expected this week. B-C is also banning evictions for non-payment of rent in buildings funded by B-C Housing, which develops and manages subsidized housing options.

COVID-19 Ads coming to Canada The federal government is rolling out a 30-million-dollar multi-media ad campaign this week, as the number of COVID-19 cases in Canada approaches one-thousand, 500. The country’s death toll from the novel coronavirus rose yesterday to 21. In the new ads, Canada’ chief public health officer urges Canadians to practice social distancing and good personal hygiene. $ $ $

LOL at ad spend, I don't know if that's a good use of resources. It reminds me of the house hippo campaign.

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ya $30M on ads seems a bit crazy....but how about mandate the news outlets post them for free or face shut downs?? why does the government need to pay?
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That's retarded.

I'm an installation/repair tech for one of the local tv/internet providers. We're no longer allowed to have any direct contact with customers or enter their homes.

Meanwhile in NS, the premier has struck the hammer down on physical distancing and businesses not operating safely. Also, anyone entering into NS automatically goes into 14day quarantine.

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The fine is $1,000 per day for individuals, and $7,500 per day for businesses. Individuals and businesses can be fined on multiple days.

As part of the state of emergency, McNeil says, effective immediately, Nova Scotians cannot gather in groups of more than five. Provincial parks are closed effective immediately and anyone who goes there will be treated as trespassing and have their vehicles towed.
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From someone who's been through initial month long isolation in Shanghai China, my best advice aside from the obvious social isolation, wash your hands, don't touch your face etc. etc. is:

1. leave your shoes OUTSIDE
2. STOCK UP ON NO PERISHABLE/FROZEN VEG AND FRUITS!!!!!! during the first 2 weeks of lockdown, fresh vegetable were literally impossible to buy. I had to visit 3-4 groceries stores before any were in stock. When I did find any, it was slim pickings and all were on the brink of expiring. Meat was relatively easy to find.
3. don't hoard toilet paper, for a family of 3 and a neighbor that literally stayed over everyday, we only went through maybe 1 24pack in the month?
4. if you decide to hoard anything, hoard alcohol. Me and my neighbor went through 18 bottles of whiskey and 11 bottle of wine in a month hahahahaha
5. buy one of those half face respirators with the appropriate filters for virus/bacteria/smog, JUST IN CASE for backup purposes if it gets really serious and you can't get n95 masks.
6. n95 masks and surgical masks are not meant to be reused. Unless you are very careful on where you touch on the the mask, reusing it literally defeats the purpose of wearing one.


Also not sure why everyone in western media is saying stay 1-2 meters apart. The news here was the virus can be carried up to 8 meters in the air.
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Got about 40 bottles of booze and 50+ bottles of wine

Although I really hope it doesn’t get to the point of having to dig into those dregs of my wine..you know the world is over when I’ve gotta drink those bottles
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should be interesting... considering that the big banks so-called mortgage deferral is so limited. There are a ton of renters out there as well as high rents... can anyone guess what the Govt will announce today?
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More entitled customer today. This couple is a snowbird and just flew back from England to Vancouver last night and call us to setup internet and cable
When I told them they have wait 14 days before we will book a tech to come they got piss and demanded someone comes out ASAP and if I can't make that happen they will complain to management. Explain to them what's happening and basically why they need to stay self isolate for 14 days and the potential fall out that could happen if we sent someone in and they are in fact infected.

In the end they got piss off coz I refuse to send a tech in within 14 days and they will be going with Shaw. That's fine I don't give a f-uck but I do feel sorry for the shaw tech who goes there and could get infected. People like that really needs a slap in the face to wake them up from their la la land and back to reality.
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