That's my general view on any alternative "medicines" like TCM. The stuff that actually works ends up turned into normal medicine, the rest does nothing, so it's pretty obvious which ones work and which are junk. The stupid thing is the gov't could easily push the funding into synthesizing everything and actually have something to brag about instead of this made up bullshit they pedal now.

So many ppl out and about today, makes no sense, then there was an annoying parade of cars with a police escort honking their horns and blaring their sirens up n down the streets ugh

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oF...=w1920-h960-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FI...=w1034-h517-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4X...g=w546-h969-no

Dollarama had dust masks 2 for $2.50. the price was printed on the package. They covered the price with new stickers saying $3.50.

My kid sings and dances to this song now:

https://www.xiaohongshu.com/discover...00000001004048
Someone cut open the mask and find out there is 4 layer inside. Seems pretty decent. Maybe someone that's currently I'm HK or China can dig deeper if the manufacturer of the mask good or bad?

Oaky, that tune is about as catchy as the Thelusian Flu.

I would use that website as an example of a "teachable moment." Commercialization of products, situations, and other topics tied to the negative effects of media awareness.


but that's just me............... today's world. Confuse the hell out of anybody, including and especially, children.


I swear, the degradation of our society started with the airing of Sesame Street. Watch how children sit in front of a TV while watching that show. It's like brainwashing with flashing lights, things happening at lightning speed. Sensory overload. There's something to be said about learning in a calm environment. Mr. Rogers, Gentle Giant, etc. Basal readers. WTH happened to them? And spelling............ it's less important that the content, they say. Yeah, if you can't communicate it to others, what's the point? Then, there's the absence of teaching the golden rule from our schools /rant. LOL.

Here's another important podcast to listen to. He goes over the very latest information on the virus, including treatments that may or may not work, etc.


The most important thing to come out of the podcast is the fact that the demographics data from China is not matching up with what we're seeing in Italy, Spain, and USA

This is VERY VERY important. I know this thread is kind of all over the place now, to the point where I'm going to have to start pruning posts (seriously keep your thirsty shit in the other forums).

This whole time we've been operating under the assumption that if you're under 70, you're probably going to be fine, with the exception of some random cases.

This does NOT appear to be the case. People in their 20's to 50's are making up a huge number of the infirm. Up to 40%

Dr. Hotez speculates that it could be due to genetic differences, but he obviously has to say bullshit like that to be able to work with scientists in China. Others speculate that it's due to the health of the average American being lower by average (and there is definitely a separate correlation there, including poverty). My new theory is that these make up the bulk of the unreported cases and deaths in China.

Whatever the reason may be, take this seriously - you are not looking out for your grandparents anymore. You are looking out for yourself. If you STILL aren't taking this seriously (and there are plenty who aren't, many lurkers here aren't), you better start doing it now. (note that the mortality rate is still much higher with the older patients)

^ for me, it's no longer the younger generations I'm worried about. It's the 40-50 yr old still having wine parties...

"it's only small gathering at home whom are 10 people at best, i'll just hired a personal chef to cook"

or the #2 most common...

"I am not sick"

F U

I have to shift my efforts on "WHAT IF YOU HAVE IT and who no symptoms for 2 weeks......"

You are secretly spreading it to those around you....

Mask efficiency
 

For people who want to see the science.

Study examining N95, surgical mask and homemade cloth mask filtering ability.

TLDR:. Cloth mask allows roughly 33% particles through, surgical 25%, N95 1%.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0002618

Good thread on the situation in Japan regarding testing. (though the policy was just changed today apparently, it's still an interesting read)


(unrolled)

kinda liking what Germany is thinking here..

https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...ockdown-2020-3

They should also have the option to donate their antibody-rich plasma

Smart thinking, hope their tests are more reliable than the chinese ones though

I think this is also partly due to the fact that during the first lock down in China, young people didn't go out and gather much. Everything was closed and it was hard to leave your apartment complex so less young people were contacting the virus.

In America and Italy, young people were being isolated less so much more were getting infected.

If any country has experience in regulating and tracking people with 'papers', it's Germany. They should come up with fun armbands next to easily indicate if individuals have the correct 'antibodies' to allow them to roam freely.

:pokerface:

sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Yea i thought it was pretty clever.
Can you even transfer antibodies? Is that possible?
I have no idea.

The first case of HIV being treated to the point the virus was no longer detectable was through blood transfusions from a person who had genetic immunity. Craziest part was it was an accident, as the transfusions were related to the recipients cancer treatment.

Anyone have an opinion on this? https://www.homedics.ca/uv-clean/uv-...bag-black.html

Looking for ways to clean my N95 masks and re-use them since they don't recommend putting them in the oven. One of the methods the CDC recommends is using UVGI/UV-C light. (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...spirators.html)

Investigation in Bergamo Italy says death toll is more than double what is reported

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/covi...igher/1789603#

Don't believe everything you read though.
My uncle was saying the media has been falsifying a lot of stories.
Looting, mafia recruiting for employment. lot of things they were saying weren't happening, he says.
I'd be interested to see the report that they only referenced.

This is the article that's quoted, the paper teamed up with the research firm to conduct the investigation doesn't look like they posted the whole report tho, state its ongoing
https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/...ni_1346651_11/

This is a WSJ article that seems like they saw the report and its in english
https://www.wsj.com/articles/italys-...ed-11585767179

Yes they started doing it in China early on, and it looks promising. Hotez talks about it on that podcast as becoming the main treatment while a vaccine is developed (he mostly dismisses quinine based drugs, since those are based on very small studies, and some others showed no promise).

:badpokerface:

Singapore going on lockdown. They handled it well at first, but didn't close borders in time. Also their govt has a backwards mask policy compared to the rest of Asia. "Only wear a mask if you're sick" even when they sent masks to their people. Even after clear evidence of asymptomatic people spreading the virus.

So even with aggressive tracing, it wasn't enough since asymptomatic people are impossible to trace. That method is not the way to go, it seems.

That also leads me to believe there is potential for a huge second wave in Korea. Japan's first wave has yet to really hit. They are the strangest situation of all. It's almost impossible to make sense of it.