This. You’re supposed to be social distancing anyways. N95 requires a perfect seal to work anyways. If it doesn’t fit properly then you’re pretty much wearing a glorified surgical mask.

Health care workers have to get tested every year. They spray this super bitter aerosolized spray into your face while you wear a bag over your head. If you taste the bitterness. You fail.

Even at the hospital I work at we wear surgical masks unless we do a procedure that aerosolizes whatever the patient breathes out into the air.

Cot dam............... this pandemic is bringing out a lot of good in our society. But, like a cancer, it also brings out the worst in people. First, there was the news about someone or some people stealing catalytic converters from three ambulances. Now, there's news of commuters taking advantage of the move by officials to provide free parking for hospital workers. These selfish, no-minds are parking their cars at Royal Columbian Hospital parkade and whatnot and skipping over to the Skytrain Station. Like, W - T - F, people ! ! ! !

As for DTES, the panhandlers are getting really aggressive. I was at Kent's Kitchen at lunch with two of my kids. I stayed in SUV. I insisted they wear masks and they did. On the way back, I hear someone yelling. As number one son is trying to get back into the car, this crackhead stops my son from closing the door to the SUV. He/She (couldn't tell) kept badgering my son to give him more money. My son, being kind-hearted, gave this crackhead a loonie. Crackpot saw he had more change in his palm. Crackie kept saying, "I want that toonie, I want that toonie." I wasn't going to start arguing. My "dad reflexes" kicked in and I peeled out of there with the door still open. I felt like grabbing my breaker bar that I keep in the car and chasing the crackhead down. I thought better of it. No sense in cracking open a crackhead's skull. Although he was in my son's face, my son, thank god, did not take the mask or his glasses off. The crackie used his body to prop the door open. I wiped that door down, just in case.


I never taught my son to never show anyone the amount of money you have in your hand. Everytime I give tips or money to strangers, I pick out what I need, put the rest back, then give the money. Much safer. Growing up in the DTES, that's like a given. (So many puns in this story). BTW, this happened a week ago. Not going back anywhere near the DTES. I should have known better.


Anyway................

If you know of a person who is taking parking spots from first line workers, explain to them why this is a horrible thing to do. If you're one of them, shame on you. Distance yourself from this forum, because you are a tool. /rant

Pretty sad that it’s seemingly Doug Ford taking lead on Covid information and releasing projections while Turd stays in his Panama’s and slips on his mittens while he stays at home giving generic releases once a day...

As big of a buffoon that trump is, turd is boarding on pathetic in his approach to all this. Zero companies in Canada have been directed to make more masks while trump puts his foot down and tells 3M to stop sending them abroad. Well done Turd.

Is it time we change the title of this thread to just Coronavirus?

We are fucking Canada. No company needs to be forced to make product's. Every company from small to large is working there asses off right now doing what ever they can to help out. You just do you part and stay at home and watch Netflix.

https://www.timescolonist.com/news/l...ors-1.24103074

https://www.vicnews.com/business/nan...sks-and-gowns/

Im far more essential than working a gas station bro.

If no company needs to be forced into making emergency products due to some perceived freedoms or charter of rights BS it’s no different than me saying I shouldn’t have to stay home because this is Canada and I have freedoms that go along with that.

I know you’ve got a hard on for trump but Turd will still go down as the worst PM in history and him hiding in his house weeks after his self-isolation is over is pathetic. Like I said, Doug Ford of all people seems like he’s being more transparent than our own

Edit.

He was just asked if he has a obligation to release information since premier Ford is releasing Ontario based information and he just tip toed around it and gave zero actual information he just spun sentences from
the past with providing nothing new, well done

Edit edit.

Even the left leaning global news ends turds conference by saying “let’s begin with the ‘non-answers’ to the important questions”

Lol..

^that's what you think, when this is over in dec,he'll be known to be the best president to get thru the worse pandemic in history....or that's what he'll keep brain washing people to believe.

If he gets the states through it by enacting emergency measures such as moves with 3M he will likely be admired for his approach

Funny thing is this is the biggest crisis since WW2 and of course it’s on trumps shoulders. Even if it’s handled in a half ass manner and they come out of it in the other size you know people are going to love him

Nah JT will be known as the PM who over promise and under delivery. Everyday he kept saying we will spend millions on this and billions on that yet people who lost their jobs, business that was affected have yet to receive a penny. Also maybe he could lower the property tax for everyone?

No. This is the china virus and it should not be forgotten where this started and that this is all china's fault

I would love to have property taxes reduced, but the reality is, taxes pay for a lot of essential services. Money doesn't appear out of thin air.

This is the real double speak story. On the one hand, "Love our healthcare workers!". Behind closed doors, "STFU about going to work without enough PPE. We will fire you. We don't care if you pass it to your families as a result of not enough protective equipment."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid...gear-1.5518900

3M pushes back on Trump administration call to stop sending N95 masks to Canada

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...r-trump-order/

One of the world’s largest U.S.-based makers of consumer products says it has been told by the White House to stop exporting medical-grade face masks to the Canadian market.

Minnesota-based 3M says the Trump administration has asked that it stop sending N95 respirators to export markets in Canada and Latin America.

But the company, which calls itself a critical supplier of the masks to both markets, says there would be “significant humanitarian implications” to doing so.

“In addition, ceasing all export of respirators produced in the United States would likely cause other countries to retaliate and do the same, as some have already done,” 3M said in a statement Friday.

“If that were to occur, the net number of respirators being made available to the United States would actually decrease. That is the opposite of what we and the administration, on behalf of the American people, both seek.”

trump also tried to get 3M to ship masks from Singapore. 3M said no, because hospitals in Asia need them.

https://www.ft.com/content/cee34681-...c-d824e9eec68e

Taiwan: We're making as many masks as we can, and will send our extras to anyone who needs them.

USA: Stop sending masks to Canada and Latin America, two allies that we rely on just like they rely on us

I like how Trump supporters actually like it the more nationalistic and autocratic he gets. Are these people actually the "closet commies" they are so worried about with Bernie supporters? LUL

No company needs to be forced because they are already doing it. Good luck getting to work without any gas.

Operative word *extras.

The US has the highest number of (reported) cases.
Why on earth would an American company not prioritize its own countries dire needs?
That doesn't make any sense.

Then we can stop Canadian nurses from crossing the border to work in US hospitals and Harmac in Nanaimo can stop sending special paper pulp used in the manufacture of disposable surgical masks, gowns to the U.S.

https://www.vicnews.com/business/nan...sks-and-gowns/

If we have a shortage of those mentioned, sure.
Maybe you can let Trudeau or Horgan know your displeasure with that arrangement LUL

I am not upset. Maybe we should have closed our airspace after 9/11 and let all those planes fall out of the sky. I would hate to be your neighbor.

Well that’s essentially what the US did with the cruise ships full of Canadians docked off of Florida. Outlets even used your 9/11 comparison.

In times like these people don’t owe anyone anything. You see it on an individual level and you see it at a govt. level.

Better realize you look out for #1 first before you get trampled on and left with nothing.

I'm not really sure there's value in releasing models which are speculative at best and highly inaccurate at worst.

Considering the behaviour of many out there - whether it's hoarding at stores, not following orders to quarantine after travel, or ignoring physical distancing guidelines - this pandemic has shown the sinister side of human nature.

If you release a worst case scenario, it will incite panic and trigger hoarding. If you release an ideal scenario, people will continue to not take this seriously which could lead to a prolonged infection rate.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

As I've said, we live in a diverse society that's reliant on other countries for the prosperity we enjoy. People are projecting a view of what they feel Canada should be which contrasts greatly with the society that Canada actually is.

You mean like how people buy 8 packs of TP, 10 bottle of bleach, 17k bottle of hand sanitizer?

It’s the same with the mask thing. There’s obviously enough information out there that points to you probably should be wearing a mask. However, as soon as the govt. comes out and says you should and the majority of people don’t have them, it’s gonna be toilet paper 2.0 times ten