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Jmac 04-06-2020 10:03 PM

Start shooting them with bean bags.

underscore 04-06-2020 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 8981879)
I tend to worry when the weather is nice knowing everyone has this bright idea of all showing up at the same parks and beaches.

Today was the first really good spring day and all day my neighbours and their kids (3 different households) were all playing together, riding bikes, hanging around talking, etc. My wife and kid had to go hide out in the back yard because we were worried about someone coming up to them.

SkinnyPupp 04-06-2020 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 8981883)
By February Crystal Mall and Richmond were ghost towns and all the Asians were already sporting face masks. I think that gets overlooked.

The people everyone was making fun of for weeks :rolleyes:

whitev70r 04-06-2020 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 8981855)
will she allow you to wear it?

How about a lil respect for the guy that started this whole thread? Plus, it's getting kinda old.

welfare 04-06-2020 10:46 PM

more optimistic results reported from prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc.

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-dru...quine/6079864/

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Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution."

Cardillo is the CEO of Mend Urgent Care, which has locations in Sherman Oaks, Van Nuys and Burbank.

He said he has found it only works if combined with zinc. The drug, he said, opens a channel for the zinc to enter the cell and block virus replication.

Manic! 04-06-2020 11:53 PM

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SkinnyPupp 04-07-2020 12:04 AM

manic one more post like that and you're banned from thread

SkinnyPupp 04-07-2020 12:10 AM

If you want, you can point out ties between that doctor and his clinics (past and present, one of which has to be completely be restructured it was so corrupt) and Trump (who gave him and the corrupt clinics awards) that go back for years.

Anyway, like was brought up before, anything that isn't done with a proper study is anecdotal. The drug may end up working, and it's relatively safe to use, so it most likely make anything worse. But it's nothing to count on now as the thing that will win it all. I don't even know why Trump is going all in on it at this point, but he's such an idiot I can see there being no reason other than he felt like it.

fishCak3s 04-07-2020 12:24 AM

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Someone just returned to Taiwan on April 6 and posted these pictures in a FB group just now. Besides the screen at airport and prearranged transportation for you to return to your home, a government official contacted this person right after they returned home (via GPS tracking I suppose) and explained all self isolation protocols on the phone. A local office then showed up to their front door and delivered documents pertaining info and forms they have to fill out during their 14 day isolation. The local official then asked if they prefer to have their meals delivered to them in take out format or they prefer to cook as well as any dietary restrictions; someone will also come everyday at a set time to take away their garbage.

This person said they prefer to cook so the following items in the pictures arrived at their doors on April 7th including face masks, toilet paper, streaming service subscriptions, a quick card style thermometer for their forehead and groceries for 14 days.

All these free of charge.

Manic! 04-07-2020 12:34 AM

If you google his name this is the first site that comes up.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/an...virus-patients

He was also on a TV show: https://www.amazon.com/Guardian-Ange.../dp/B000LAZQ58


From the blaze: https://www.theblaze.com/news/la-doc...nc-coronavirus

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resident Trump has been optimistic about hydroxychloroquine's efficacy against the virus despite warnings from some health officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci who sits on the White House coronavirus task force, that evidence of its effectiveness is anecdotal.
This Doctor is being pumped up by the Alt right.


In the post millennial story they also mention Dr. Vladimir Zelenko.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/t...rus-drugs.html


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After testing this three-drug cocktail on hundreds of patients, some of whom had only mild or moderate symptoms when they arrived, Dr. Zelenko claimed that 100 percent of them had survived the virus with no hospitalizations and no need for a ventilator.

“I’m seeing tremendous positive results,” he said in a March 21 video, which was addressed to President Trump and eventually posted to YouTube and Facebook.

What happened next is a modern pandemic parable that illustrates how the coronavirus is colliding with our fragile information ecosystem: a jumble of facts, falsehoods and viral rumors patched together from Twitter threads and shards of online news, amplified by armchair experts and professional partisans and pumped through the warp-speed accelerator of social media.

Dr. Zelenko’s treatment arrived at a useful moment for Mr. Trump and his media supporters, who have at times appeared more interested in discussing miracle cures than testing delays or ventilator shortages.

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Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, quickly promoted Dr. Zelenko’s claims on his TV and radio shows. Mark Meadows, the incoming White House chief of staff, called Dr. Zelenko to ask about his treatment plan. And Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, praised him in a podcast interview this week for “thinking of solutions, just like the president.”

Few people have been as hopeful about hydroxychloroquine as Mr. Trump, who has enthusiastically promoted it for weeks as “very effective” and possibly “the biggest game changer in the history of medicine” — even as health experts have cautioned that more research and testing are needed.

That has not deterred Mr. Trump’s supporters, who have vilified public health officials such as Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the most outspoken advocate of emergency virus measures. Instead, some are pinning their hopes on Dr. Zelenko and his unproven treatment plan, which has now been seen by millions.
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Tech companies have begun cracking down on hyperbolic claims about the drugs. Last week, Twitter removed a tweet by Mr. Giuliani that said hydroxychloroquine was “100% effective” in treating Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Facebook, YouTube and Twitter this week took down a video by Mr. Bolsonaro claiming that the drug “is working in all places.” YouTube later took down Dr. Zelenko’s video, saying it violated the site’s community guidelines.
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Dr. Zelenko, who said he supported Mr. Trump, declined to discuss his politics in detail, saying they were “irrelevant” to his medical findings.

But he appeared to share the president’s initial skepticism about the virus. In early March, he posted several right-wing memes about the coronavirus on Facebook, including one that referred to the pandemic as a “Dem panic” and another that featured Hillary Clinton on a list of “things more likely to kill you than the coronavirus.”

T4RAWR 04-07-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8981894)
Start shooting them with bean bags.

They're not that effective.

Tickets will hurt people alot more lol.

hchang 04-07-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8981894)
Start shooting them with bean bags.

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Originally Posted by T4RAWR (Post 8981938)
They're not that effective.

Tickets will hurt people alot more lol.

Police is India are beating their citizens with sticks.


westopher 04-07-2020 08:19 AM

If VPD had any sense they’d repurpose their VI squad to a social distancing squad so they’d actually have a benefit.

bcrdukes 04-07-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8981918)
manic one more post like that and you're banned from thread

What did he post? (So we don't do the same.)

Bouncing Bettys 04-07-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8981941)
If VPD had any sense they’d repurpose their VI squad to a social distancing squad so they’d actually have a benefit.

Then we will see the police, with their layman's understanding of motor vehicles, use their layman's understanding of quarantine measures to start fining families quarantined in their homes.

T4RAWR 04-07-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8981940)
Police is India are beating their citizens with sticks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchRqzcDVzU

Too bad the cops cant do that here unfortunately :alone:

Manic! 04-07-2020 10:20 AM

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette.../#71cac5ac7260

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Topline: President Trump—increasingly a booster of hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for coronavirus—has a “small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, a French drugmaker that produces a brand-name version of the drug—though it’s a tiny investment for the billionaire.

Sanofi produces Plaquenil, the brand-name form of hydroxychloroquine, the New York Times reported; the drug is typically used to treat rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and malaria.
Trump’s three family trusts have investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, with Sanofi as the largest holding, according to the Times.
Forbes estimates the value of Trump’s Sanofi holdings to be less than $3,000; for context, Forbes estimates Trump's total net worth at $2.1 billion
Billionaire Ken Fisher, a major Republican donor (including to Trump), is one of Sanofi’s largest shareholders, while Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross used to run a fund that invested in Sanofi, the Times reported.
“Sanofi is neither a material holding of Fisher Investments nor of Ken Fisher personally,” Fisher Investments said in a statement, adding, “The company represents less than 0.8% of Fisher Investments’ portfolio, and the firm’s ownership is less than 0.7% of Sanofi.”

nismodrifter 04-07-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 8981940)
Police is India are beating their citizens with sticks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchRqzcDVzU

This is a normal for police in India. Nothing new.

twitchyzero 04-07-2020 10:28 AM

i wish Cain had a whip :whipped:

welfare 04-07-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8981919)

Anyway, like was brought up before, anything that isn't done with a proper study is anecdotal. The drug may end up working, and it's relatively safe to use, so it most likely make anything worse. But it's nothing to count on now as the thing that will win it all. I don't even know why Trump is going all in on it at this point, but he's such an idiot I can see there being no reason other than he felt like it.

Even if there's a 10% rate of improvement, that's still a success.
It's just like the mask thing. A makeshift mask is better than nothing.
You don't have the luxury of 'perfection' right now. You have to act.
Those who criticize it, without reason that outweighs its possible benefits, while providing no better solution, are counterproductive.
Way i see it.

JSALES 04-07-2020 10:33 AM

Coquitlam company will be first to produce N95 masks in Canada

https://theprovince.com/news/local-n...a-e2cb869d035c

bcrdukes 04-07-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nismodrifter (Post 8981959)
This is a normal for police in India. Nothing new.

+1 can vouch for this

I spent a month in India (Pune / Bangalore / Chennai) and this is normal and nothing new. Horrifying to see at first, but that's how they roll in India. People cry about police brutality here. Ain't seen nothing yet! :lol

Manic! 04-07-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8981962)
Even if there's a 10% rate of improvement, that's still a success.
It's just like the mask thing. A makeshift mask is better than nothing.
You don't have the luxury of 'perfection' right now. You have to act.
Those who criticize it, without reason that outweighs its possible benefits, while providing no better solution, are counterproductive.
Way i see it.

it's prescribed medication, not something you can buy at the dollar store. The only people that should be telling people to take are doctors and the CDC. There was no point of him bringing it up.

Digitalis 04-07-2020 11:05 AM

Anything that gives hope must be banned. The only solution is quarantine until vaccine comes out.
Tractor Supply’s decision to pull Ivermectin came as a study recently published in the journal Antiviral Research found the dewormer could inhibit the growth of SARS-CoV-2, otherwise known as COVID-19, or the novel coronavirus.

In the study, entitled, “The FDA-approved Drug Ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro,” researchers in Australia say they showed the anti-parasitic drug “could impede the replication of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in a laboratory setting in under 48 hours,” according to TechTimes.com.

“The test conducted by the Australian researchers showed that even a single dose of the anti-parasitic drug was enough to significantly reduce viral RNA during the first 28 hours, then wiping out 99.8% by 48 hours,” reports Tech Times.

“On the third day, coronavirus was eliminated entirely.”

After the positive results, researchers reasoned that “Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans.”

The researchers at Monash University who conducted the study made it a point to note at their website that “Ivermectin cannot be used in humans for COVID-19 until further testing and clinical trials have been completed to establish the effectiveness of the drug at levels safe for human dosing.”

twitchyzero 04-07-2020 11:55 AM

the guy's getting destroyed in the comments, cbc nice pick SeemsGood



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