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Old 04-08-2020, 07:46 AM   #3701
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LOL JT dodging question with a totally different answer..... Just like give everyone 2k a month. If you are laid off, got your hours cut, working, business owners, students. As long as you are over 18 everyone gets the money. He said he wants to help as many Canadians as possible and make the process as simple as possible.

Easiest and simplest way is give money to everyone like HK and US.
That's what the NDP wants.
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Old 04-08-2020, 07:47 AM   #3702
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People are going to scam tf out of it

Frankly I’m tempted to apply and just see what happens even though gainfully employed. Same people who are going to be getting this are the same ones already scamming EI, double dipping on benefits, etc.
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Well, none of this is coming my way, damn it!

Oh well, I guess I'll keep paying the taxes like a good little boy.

At least I'm getting a refund this year.

I just hate the fact my tax dollars are going to fucking scammers and dishonest people. Paying to help those in need, I don't mind at all.
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LOL JT dodging question with a totally different answer..... Just like give everyone 2k a month. If you are laid off, got your hours cut, working, business owners, students. As long as you are over 18 everyone gets the money. He said he wants to help as many Canadians as possible and make the process as simple as possible.

Easiest and simplest way is give money to everyone like HK and US.
Except US isn’t giving an amount that matters to anyone. What would a one time payment of $1200 do to mitigate people’s financial issues after job loss?
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Except US isn’t giving an amount that matters to anyone. What would a one time payment of $1200 do to mitigate people’s financial issues after job loss?
That's $1200 per adult, plus $500 per child.
In a household of two parents plus one child, That's almost $3k.

It can cover the necessities.
A blanket payment is meant for accessibility and speed.
The more regulations and processing there is, the longer it takes to get to people's hands.
The sacrifice is, some people are not going to get as much as they would have with a more regulated system, and some may get more.
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Old 04-08-2020, 08:11 AM   #3706
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^^ something is better than nothing. HK is giving people like 10k HK dollars which is more or less 2k Canada. And that's a one time payment as well.
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Stick to EI, and have a system to help self employed people.

So many lazy people are going to take advantage of this it’s insane. They cannot just give 2k to *everyone* who isn’t working. That’s fucked
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Oldest trick in the book when you can't dispute the facts then attempt to defame the source. Too bad that only works in a libtard world.
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I'm assuming all these payments are coming tax free?

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't EI supposed to be taxes?

if these payments are tax free then fuck ya I'm going to apply....it's my tax money going out, why shouldn't i get it too
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Except US isn’t giving an amount that matters to anyone. What would a one time payment of $1200 do to mitigate people’s financial issues after job loss?
US system is far ahead of what Trudeau/Horgan announced (and rightfully so)...CERB vs COVID stimulus checks alone we're getting about 1/3 of our US counterpart per capita... 3400usd for the average family on top of their EI that's extended to more people and boosted by 600usd/wk

the CERB 360usd/wk excludes essential workers/students & new grads

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Oldest trick in the book when you can't dispute the facts then attempt to defame the source. Too bad that only works in a libtard world.
https://www.cleveland.com/nation/202...ronavirus.html
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Your links say the same thing I posted. The fact you read red state a site is all anyone needs to know. Maybe next time post somthing from the weekly world news.


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Between Feb. 25 and March 2, the price paid for a single 25-gram bottle of chloroquine phosphate rose from $9.99 to over $500.

On March 18, eBay’s tracking indicated that one seller had sold 84 lots of the substance in 24 hours. By that afternoon, all sizes were sold out save for 100 gram lots, which were being listed for $519 each.

The anti-malarial drug chloroquine, and a derivative of it called hydroxychloroquine, have been found effective in killing the virus in laboratory experiments, according to some recent studies.

But the drug hasn’t yet been approved in treating COVID-19.
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People are going to scam tf out of it

Frankly I’m tempted to apply and just see what happens even though gainfully employed. Same people who are going to be getting this are the same ones already scamming EI, double dipping on benefits, etc.
There's no doubt some are. I'm already reading it on reddit finance forums.

But it's not hard for CRA to track it down and cross reference things. Yeah, some will fall through the cracks but many will get caught and penalized.

I've never been audited, but I think the last branch I want to f with is the CRA.
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I'm assuming all these payments are coming tax free?

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't EI supposed to be taxes?

if these payments are tax free then fuck ya I'm going to apply....it's my tax money going out, why shouldn't i get it too
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Yup! for anyone on Mat leave you always get a nice surprise when it's time to do taxes. Hey remember all those EI payments you got that basically came with no tax deducted, well not you owe us thousands of dollars thanks!
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That's $1200 per adult, plus $500 per child.
In a household of two parents plus one child, That's almost $3k.

It can cover the necessities.
A blanket payment is meant for accessibility and speed.
The more regulations and processing there is, the longer it takes to get to people's hands.
The sacrifice is, some people are not going to get as much as they would have with a more regulated system, and some may get more.
And in a household of two Canadians and no working children it’s 4K a month. They will have the money in 3 days of application, which from what I’ve heard is taking people minutes.
That can also cover the necessities. I fail to see how the US system is better than ours.
The difference with ours is that it will remain accessible for a longer period of time so there is a safety net for what we hope is the entire duration of the extreme points of this situation.
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also if you have children i believe the new child care benefit is about an extra $300 per child.
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^ covid stimulus check in the US is on top of unemployment insurance for those who qualify...and for all families under 150k usd annual income

cerb replaces ei and isn't as universal
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A friend got laid off and didn't earn enough to qualify for the minimum of $5,000 income in the last 12 months or in 2019.
He does, however, have stock investments.
This was a loop hole gov't realized; you could work 1 hr at starbucks, get an RoE and then say you earned $4900 from "consulting" with a newly established company (less than a yr).
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2) company stimulus package has to be company that's more than 2 yrs in business (last i checked on BDC who's distributing the funds)

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We are in a difficult time. But I also think it's a great time to spend it organizing your life and really see what's important for you.
If people were that smart, times now would be to reassess your skills instead of spiraling on netflix.

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^ covid stimulus check in the US is on top of unemployment insurance for those who qualify...and for all families under 150k usd annual income

cerb replaces ei and isn't as universal
Again, for one month.
I’m not saying what the US is doing is wrong, I’m just saying it’s not some undeniably better approach just because orange man always right and Trudeau always wrong in the eyes of some of the people in this thread.
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Again, for one month.
I’m not saying what the US is doing is wrong, I’m just saying it’s not some undeniably better approach just because orange man always right and Trudeau always wrong in the eyes of some of the people in this thread.
It's just funny because the US package is precisely the ubi system that many here had been so in favor of in the past.
It's a supplementary, no questions asked cheque.
No application. No processing involved. It's being automatically sent through tax records.
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UBI would probably be more than a one time cheque in times of disaster. Again, I’m glad it’s happening so the irony is lost here.
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It's just funny because the US package is precisely the ubi system that many here had been so in favor of in the past.
It's a supplementary, no questions asked cheque.
No application. No processing involved. It's being automatically sent through tax records.
Someone who is against UBI now praising UBI.
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^ it's almost $2000/mth per person

So easy I thought it was fake': CRA’s CERB system gets stellar reviews in first days of operation

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I'm assuming all these payments are coming tax free?

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't EI supposed to be taxes?

if these payments are tax free then fuck ya I'm going to apply....it's my tax money going out, why shouldn't i get it too
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