coronavirus discussion

[MG1]

wasn't there some kind of program offered by the government that put those who couldn't self-isolate into hotels?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/qua...otel-1.5531717

[welfare]

Originally Posted by dbaz

was approved Sunday

All i can find are articles, from much more recent than Sunday, stating that antibody testing is still under review in Canada.
Can you show me where you saw that?

[JSALES]

Canadians required to wear masks when travelling by plane

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/04...ngs-on-planes/

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by JSALES

Canadians required to wear masks when travelling by plane

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/04...ngs-on-planes/

Getting closer to compulsory masks huh

[StylinRed]

Hokkaido Japan has a resurgence of the virus, it isn't believed to be imported cases, so they're back on lockdown

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52305055


Article that looks into the notion of the virus coming from the wuhan virology lab, with a couple new tidbits

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52318539

Ecuadors official death count is in the hundreds, but the government says they believe there are at least several thousand dead

Many people have died at home, and their bodies cannot be collected (services are overwhelmed)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52324218


Gun toting Americans are out protesting lockdown, and also supporting Trump

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52330531

This has been your Friday update

[welfare]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Getting closer to compulsory masks huh

It almost seems like common sense, doesn't it.

[!LittleDragon]

Back in my day, some western governments were telling certain cultures not to wear face coverings

[hud 91gt]

You guys don’t quite get the whole mask thing do you.


The reason they have not been suggesting it is due to availability. If they say you must wear a mask, every city, district, workplace worker will DEMAND a mask, and will now will be able to safely claim it is not safe to do work. This will essentially bring our economy to a dead stop immediately. Juggling this shit ain’t easily. Saying anything else, and discouraging the wear of face masks is done to calm the chaos. Not promote it. Imagine if the media said we were in a TP shortage!?!?

There are so many repercussions of statements and policies when they made. It’s not that simple.

[rb]

Had to temporarily delete my facebook account because i couldn't stand the "lol, idiots with facemasks and gloves. Just wash your hands" comments. Its interesting because these are the same people that talk about the mainstream news brainwashing the general public.

Living in the tri-cities (port coq, port moody, coq), you will get some of the dirtiest looks while wearing a mask

[dbaz]

Originally Posted by welfare

All i can find are articles, from much more recent than Sunday, stating that antibody testing is still under review in Canada.
Can you show me where you saw that?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...st/ar-BB12xb5S

msn's source is from cbc

[320icar]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Getting closer to compulsory masks huh

As of tomorrow it would seem all of us Costco employees will be required to wear masks. I’d say 85% already do. It’s hard for me with a big beard, they don’t fit or sit well.

I’ll believe it when I see it though so take this with a grain of salt. They’re already providing them for us though

Edit: also please give grocery store staff ample space to work. Even if we limit people into the stores, it doesn’t mean anything if you reach over our shoulders instead of waiting patiently

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by hud 91gt

You guys don’t quite get the whole mask thing do you.


The reason they have not been suggesting it is due to availability. If they say you must wear a mask, every city, district, workplace worker will DEMAND a mask, and will now will be able to safely claim it is not safe to do work. This will essentially bring our economy to a dead stop immediately. Juggling this shit ain’t easily. Saying anything else, and discouraging the wear of face masks is done to calm the chaos. Not promote it. Imagine if the media said we were in a TP shortage!?!?

There are so many repercussions of statements and policies when they made. It’s not that simple.

If this were true, it would be the WORST possible reason to not go ahead with it.

In times where millions of people are out of jobs, industries shutting down, people confined to homes for months... You think "not being able to get a mask easily" is a reason to not recommend masks?

The new travel rule even allows for any kind of cover, which literally anyone could do. Wrap a t-shirt around your mouth, voila, you are compliant.

I've heard this argument against masks from the start; it was wrong then, and it is extra wrong now. Czechia proves that a homemade mask campaign is enough; you don't necessarily need tons of surgical masks to be effective.

I do think if it is to be a fully enforceable law (as in you HAVE To wear a mask to be in public) they need to provide citizens with enough masks to go out. This is why they need to work with Taiwan which is the only country now besides China with the capacity to do something like this. Get to them before other countries do! Japan is already working with them, the availability won't be there forever, and Canada will be stuck having to make their own masks or rely on people making their own (which can work but not ideal).

[dbaz]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

Hokkaido Japan has a resurgence of the virus, it isn't believed to be imported cases, so they're back on lockdown
l

Moving back from Japan 3 weeks ago I can tell you theres never been a lockdown. People were for the most part oblivious to this until Ken Shimura (comedy legend in Japan) died of it, and id say roughly 50% or more still are.

Japan cant enforce a lockdown due to their laws since WW2. And their government is full of dinosaurs who have no idea what they are doing or nor any qualifications.

They are doing the max they can at the moment which is a "strong" please stay home.

That country is fucked for the virus.

[welfare]

Originally Posted by dbaz

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...st/ar-BB12xb5S

msn's source is from cbc

That's not antibody testing.

[spoon.ek9]

people in my community are making washable fabric face masks with a pocket for filters. they're currently being distributed to hospital employees. i believe these will be available for purchase at some point once they've provided enough for us. will keep you posted.

everyone should be wearing a mask in public places now. stop caring about how others view you. it protects you, your loved ones and even the idiots judging you despite what they think.

[hud 91gt]

Trust me. Try managing a bunch of union workers. It’s not easy.


Life is literally a calculated risk. Decisions have to be made by facts and nothing else.

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

If this were true, it would be the WORST possible reason to not go ahead with it.

In times where millions of people are out of jobs, industries shutting down, people confined to homes for months... You think "not being able to get a mask easily" is a reason to not recommend masks?

The new travel rule even allows for any kind of cover, which literally anyone could do. Wrap a t-shirt around your mouth, voila, you are compliant.

I've heard this argument against masks from the start; it was wrong then, and it is extra wrong now. Czechia proves that a homemade mask campaign is enough; you don't necessarily need tons of surgical masks to be effective.

I do think if it is to be a fully enforceable law (as in you HAVE To wear a mask to be in public) they need to provide citizens with enough masks to go out. This is why they need to work with Taiwan which is the only country now besides China with the capacity to do something like this. Get to them before other countries do! Japan is already working with them, the availability won't be there forever, and Canada will be stuck having to make their own masks or rely on people making their own (which can work but not ideal).

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9

people in my community are making washable fabric face masks with a pocket for filters. they're currently being distributed to hospital employees. i believe these will be available for purchase at some point once they've provided enough for us. will keep you posted.

everyone should be wearing a mask in public places now. stop caring about how others view you. it protects you, your loved ones and even the idiots judging you despite what they think.

We also have a local company who purchased equipment to make proper medical grade masks here in Coquitlam. First in Canada I believe.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by hud 91gt

Trust me. Try managing a bunch of union workers. It’s not easy.


Life is literally a calculated risk. Decisions have to be made by facts and nothing else.

I get it won't be easy. Your last sentence indicates that you agree with me though.

Time will tell... If they can somehow keep the country shut down for 18 months instead of 8 months, then they don't need to enforce masks.

[hud 91gt]

I don’t deny that masks are a good thing, I’m still not wearing one but I don’t really leave the house. If we were in crowded areas I’d feel much more comfortable with one for sure. I still think gloves are ridiculous unless you have open wounds. They make you more careful, and washing your hands is a good practice and just as safe.

[welfare]

Even a scarf can reduce the velocity and size of droplets greatly by those who've contracted the virus.
Which would obviously reduce spread greatly if everyone were obliged to wear even just that.
I really don't see a logical argument against making that compulsory given the alternative.

[dbaz]

Originally Posted by welfare

That's not antibody testing.

guess they edited from when I first read it. or I was drunk when reading it
my bad then

anyways. antibody testing for covid is pointless at the moment. no one knows how long the anti bodies will remain for, and you are able to get covid multiple times

[welfare]

Originally Posted by dbaz

guess they edited from when I first read it. or I was drunk when reading it
my bad then

anyways. antibody testing for covid is pointless at the moment. no one knows how long the anti bodies will remain for, and you are able to get covid multiple times

I don't know that it's entirely certain you can get it multiple times as those who've tested positive a second time may have gotten a false positive the first time.
At least that's one theory anyways.

There are a lot of unknowns. But the more tools the better, so I really don't think it's pointless myself.

[westopher]

Yeah I don't think they have any definitive proof of anyone having it a second time. Another situation is a reduction in the virus making it unable to detect then a "flare up" so to speak. I'm not a doctor though, so I'm not sure if thats even possible with the testing. I'm very sure if there were proven second cases in an individual we would know about it (as long as it didn't happen in the US or China)

[MarkyMark]

I'd certainly hope you are required to wear a mask on a fucking airplane lol, hey let's all sit in a tiny tube of recycled air and hope no one's infected! Even with a mask I wouldn't want to be on an airplane right now.

I can see masks being required to go into a store if they want to really take it to the next level. I'll stand by my opinion that I don't think they'll make everyone who steps outside their house required to wear one.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

Ive seen a lot of idiot drivers/road rage recently.. its like there are less ppl on the road, cuz most of the sensible ppl are staying at home, but all the morons are still going out (makes sense)

I've found that there's a lot of people who have no business on the road are out driving right now. Almost can't blame some of the road ragers when there are miles of open road ahead and there's an idiot doing 10 under on the left lane, or cutting people off cause they didn't shoulder check.

The people who have a brain screwed on properly are probably staying at home or working from home. The venn diagram of people who can't drive and people who are too stupid to stay at home are probably close to a perfect circle.