coronavirus discussion

[SkinnyPupp]

People keep trying to muddy the waters with the "WHY" black people in NY are more susceptible to Coronavirus. The main point is - we can't have people advocating for the deaths of racial groups or age groups simply because they want to make more money (or to put it more correctly, they want their corporate overlords to make more money while they feel good about getting a tiny cut of it).

[welfare]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

I knew someone would reply with more large scale meta data...

Let's look at NY specifically since that's what we're talking about in the context of being hammered by C19 (the page I quoted allows you to look at individual states)

Stats from a few years ago:



Anyway, people keep trying to muddy the waters with the "WHY" black people in NY are more susceptible to Coronavirus. The main point is - we can't have people advocating for the deaths of racial groups or age groups simply because they want to make more money.

No one is advocating. But what you're claiming is not evident.
Latinos still earn less, even in NY alone. Yet they are significantly less effected.
Not all disparities are the result of poverty.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by welfare

Latinos still earn less, even in NY alone. Yet they are significantly less effected.

So what's your point?

[MarkyMark]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that someone who is going broke over this and wants to go back to work is a heartless racist that hates old people. No one wants people to die but the reality is at some point every country is going to start easing restrictions at the expense of some lives, there's no way around it.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's far beyond "heartless" to suggest letting hospitals get overwhelmed with sick old/black/poor people. It would be catastrophic in the strictest sense of that term.

I know I flippantly call out dumb statements sometimes, but in this case we're talking about an idea that is borderline evil. It is actually kind of psycopathic and frankly it sickens me a little that I'm not very surprised to see certain people supporting it. I understand that for some people things are getting to the point of frustration, and logic can take a back seat to extreme thoughts like this, especially when just shooting the shit on a message board. But this person has been saying this shit from the get-go. So I can understand where people are coming from I guess, it is just a bit sad in some cases, sickening in others

But thankfully we can go back to Canada being a great country with mostly good people, who voted in some fairly decent, if imperfect, people who wouldn't ever let anything like that happen.

[MarkyMark]

It honestly surprises me that you're so shocked that the world can be a cruel motherfucker. So much heartless shit goes on in the world every day and this is just a magnification of that.

If you think this is bad wait and see how people react when they start losing their homes and can't find a job, shits going to get real uncomfortable out there.

[hud 91gt]

I know we are passed the “lives have value” argument already.

But what happen’s when a country goes to war. I’m probably the least knowledgeable in this area, but you have a country with young, strong trained men. Ready to fight for their country. Is it assumed they will go to war and survive? They are literally sacrificial lambs. Individually they have great value, but their worth is over powered by the value of everyone in their country. In an ideal world, no one would die. We are literally in a war against a virus.

I totally respect your opinion Skinny, and it’s amazing to see how different people’s perspective is. You stated it is downright evil to think like that.. as this is over some people’s money. Yes, money is involved. But it’s bigger then that. It’s jobs and food on the table for EVERYONE. I’m no professor in economics, but there is a line and it’s not “shut everything down and let this pass” as the repercussions are far greater then the good.

My opinions may be overly simplistic, but I’m a simple person.

[Hondaracer]

China building concentration camps for minorities

The states allowing drug companies to push opioids to decimate communities

Canada leaving First Nations people without clean water or medical supplies

But how can we ever consider letting 80 year olds die from a worldwide pandemic?

Lol fuck give me a break.

[6793026]

I don't disagree for people going back to work if a state / county only has eg// 25 cases with zero deaths. Can't put a state of emergency just cause the largest city has an outbreak but a town of 3000 has to suffer. Point Roberts.

Again,that's just me. Can't put a number saying what is ok to open or not, I'm sure the county / state / province / city can decide themselves.

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

China building concentration camps for minorities

The states allowing drug companies to push opioids to decimate communities

Canada leaving First Nations people without clean water or medical supplies

But how can we ever consider letting 80 year olds die from a worldwide pandemic?

Lol fuck give me a break.

Although I agree with you, we have a lot of issues in the world. These aren’t reasons to make small of killing some old people. Rather it’s minimizing any bad effects over all.

I think we can all agree on that.

[GGnoRE]

Just an idea but why don't we focus our resources in helping older aged (50+ years) or high-risk population to stay at home through government income + delivery of essential goods and start opening up the economy to younger working population that do not have direct exposure to said high-risk population (ie. you don't live with your parents). As far as I understand, hospitalization is concentrated in older population so this approach would be preventing hospitals from getting overrun as most younger healthy population are able to overcome the virus at home if they become infected. Also, I think this would allow the government to replace a higher portion of lost income for high-risk population that has to stay home, instead of spraying the whole working population with CERB, because $2000/month doesn't even cover mortgage payment for a lot of families.

[welfare]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

So what's your point?

I guess I just grow a little tired of the only possible explanation to any and all racial disparities being:
A) racism
B) poverty
C) both A and B

It's to the point that people need to tip toe around contesting those conclusions for fear of being labeled, unjustifiably, racist.
I think it's unhealthy. And I think it performs a great disservice to those it's intended to support.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Save yourself the trouble of debating:

[quasi]

Excuse my ignorance if this has been posted already but I seen a news report about testing of homeless in Boston and it kind of blew my mind.

397 people tested and 146 tested positive that's not the surprising part, ZERO had any symptoms every one who tested positive was Asymptomatic.


https://www.boston25news.com/news/cd...CUAARBO4YWO64/

[TjAlmeida]

Originally Posted by quasi

Excuse my ignorance if this has been posted already but I seen a news report about testing of homeless in Boston and it kind of blew my mind.

397 people tested and 146 tested positive that's not the surprising part, ZERO had any symptoms every one who tested positive was Asymptomatic.


https://www.boston25news.com/news/cd...CUAARBO4YWO64/

I think this was posted last page, shocking stats. Then someone also said who is to say those tests were accurate.

[westopher]

I posted it, but my numbers were slightly off by memory.
It could mean the tests are bad.
It could mean that the disease is far more infectious but far less powerful than we originally knew.
It could mean some sort of herd immunity due to an earlier outbreak than we knew of a less powerful strain/mutation of the virus.
It is very indicative of the need to study this situation.

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by westopher

I posted it, but my numbers were slightly off by memory.
It could mean the tests are bad.
It could mean that the disease is far more infectious but far less powerful than we originally knew.
It could mean some sort of herd immunity due to an earlier outbreak than we knew of a less powerful strain/mutation of the virus.
It is very indicative of the need for Revscene to study this situation.

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[Manic!]

Surrey Home Depot.

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[inv4zn]

^The fuck is he yelling about

[320icar]

Half the videos I go to play on here don’t work and it says “try signing in to a g suite account” the fuck is that

[VR6GTI]

dude appears to be upset about people coming into his place of work and he has to serve them instead of spending time with his family.

[hud 91gt]

I think he’s upset because there is a line full of “unessentials?” Im betting someone got angry as he probably skipped the line as he figures he has the right to do so for his work. Then he went ape shit.


If this is the case, these places should actually have seperate lines for “workers.” I don’t disagree with him in my made up scenario. But he didn’t handle himself well. Lol.

That’s what I got from it.

[Ludepower]

Fuck that POS. Seems like hes above everyone else in line.

Maybe home depot should have a separate lineup for contractors. If not, get in line and stfu.

[StylinRed]

The video doesn't really tell anything... But I think there's a line for essential services ppl, and a line for regular ppl, and someone yelled at him for using that line? Cuz they thought he was cutting the line?

Then he went off on them for making things worse cuz they're just here to buy shit for their gardening



28 ppl in a chicken processing plant in Vancouver have tested positive, not included in today's numbers of new cases

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