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05-09-2020, 11:09 AM
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#4701 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Maybe wasn’t the best idea to open clubs where the entire reason for the place existing is getting in close contact with strangers?
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05-09-2020, 11:43 AM
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#4702 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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05-09-2020, 12:23 PM
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#4703 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Wow that’s shitty. What a great place to get good deals on camping/fishing gear. I usually hit up the one in new west every so often
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05-09-2020, 02:09 PM
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#4704 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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^ and getting my crabbing license every year.... welp....
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05-09-2020, 03:37 PM
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#4705 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Holy crap it was super crowded at Kits Beach this afternoon. We probably won't see phase 3 until new years!
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05-09-2020, 04:39 PM
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Interesting blog by a renowned virologist (edit: not just renowned, dude is legendary) who survived C19. Not all of us hear first hand experiences, we just see numbers and "old people" dying, assuming the people who don't fit into the "1% mortality rate" get away just fine. Check it out. Quote: |
Many people think COVID-19 kills 1% of patients, and the rest get away with some flulike symptoms. But the story gets more complicated. Many people will be left with chronic kidney and heart problems. Even their neural system is disrupted. There will be hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, possibly more, who will need treatments such as renal dialysis for the rest of their lives. The more we learn about the coronavirus, the more questions arise. We are learning while we are sailing. That’s why I get so annoyed by the many commentators on the sidelines who, without much insight, criticize the scientists and policymakers trying hard to get the epidemic under control. That’s very unfair.
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05-09-2020, 04:44 PM
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#4707 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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Yeah the BBC did a story about young ppl who caught corona, they're classified as "fully recovered" but they're now burdened with chronic pain, fatigue, migraines, etc several weeks after recovering
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05-09-2020, 05:35 PM
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#4708 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by StylinRed Yeah the BBC did a story about young ppl who caught corona, they're classified as "fully recovered" but they're now burdened with chronic pain, fatigue, migraines, etc several weeks after recovering | So basically my life since I was 15   | |
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05-09-2020, 05:53 PM
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#4709 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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People have been breaking the rules for sometime - it was particularly bad around Easter weekend. There wasn't much of a spike 2-3 weeks after that weekend. Also, the downtown eastside is pretty much a breeding ground for this virus, but despite people not being able to be physically distant, we haven't seen a significant spike in cases from the homeless population either.
People were out in full force at beaches and parks today, so we'll see what happens in 10-14 days. If the reported cases and hospitalizations remain stable, then maybe there's something to be said about being in the outdoors that significant mitigates community transmission.
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05-09-2020, 06:29 PM
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#4710 | | I STILL don't get it
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05-09-2020, 07:49 PM
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#4711 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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05-09-2020, 07:50 PM
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#4712 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Even with shit like the daily hive etc can’t tell if they are just using stock images or what.
Not debating whether it was packed or wasn’t as it was beautiful and 25+ deg today but if you don’t have an actual image of today in your article it’s pointless
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05-09-2020, 07:55 PM
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#4713 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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I'm not surprised. They really shouldn't have announced the 2-6 people rule until the day it went live. I already had friends asking to hang out because they thought it went into effect already. On top of that, I wouldn't want to hang out with 6 friends while I'm surrounded by a few hundred other people on a beach lol.
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05-09-2020, 09:04 PM
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#4714 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark I'm not surprised. They really shouldn't have announced the 2-6 people rule until the day it went live. I already had friends asking to hang out because they thought it went into effect already. On top of that, I wouldn't want to hang out with 6 friends while I'm surrounded by a few hundred other people on a beach lol. | The groups of 2-6 thing is like ... a family. Not 2-6 people all from different households.
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05-09-2020, 09:15 PM
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#4715 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Yeah I think they made the distinction about being smart about it. If you want to see *the same* 5 or so friends that’s okay, but make it a close circle.
Not 5 friends tonight, then 5 work friends tomorrow, then 5 family members Monday, then 5 classmates Tuesday etc.
Make it the same group
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05-09-2020, 09:15 PM
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#4716 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Jmac The groups of 2-6 thing is like ... a family. Not 2-6 people all from different households. | Thats not the case. You could always see anyone in your household. Theres no stipulation that the people you see have to be of some sort of blood relation.
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05-09-2020, 09:20 PM
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#4717 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by westopher Thats not the case. You could always see anyone in your household. Theres no stipulation that the people you see have to be of some sort of blood relation. | I know that. I meant two different households coming together (and still practising physical distancing and safe behaviour).
They still need to be able to trace cases.
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05-09-2020, 09:20 PM
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#4718 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
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Let's see what the case count is in a week.
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05-09-2020, 09:22 PM
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#4719 | | Banned (ABWS)
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Interesting blog by a renowned virologist (edit: not just renowned, dude is legendary) who survived C19. Not all of us hear first hand experiences, we just see numbers and "old people" dying, assuming the people who don't fit into the "1% mortality rate" get away just fine. Check it out. | So you're saying people who get hospitalized for severe pneumonia are more likely to have long term consequences? Who would've known.
Show some objective numbers vs subjective conjectures. 
US CDC data from beginning of year to this week https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisiona...nd-S/9bhg-hcku
First column is deaths due to Covid, second is death from all causes. Guess what? You're minimum 20x more likely to die from something other than covid 19. Hey look, 80% of deaths are in the 65 and above bracket. Under 35 is 0.8%.
Guess what the fallout of the quarantine measures are? 30+ million unemployed in the US alone. From all time low unemployment to 14.6%. Canada lost two million jobs in april alone.
So stop using logical fallacies to make claims. Google appeal to authority. Hell a legendary white power ranger told me COVID19 is overrated. Give data on what percentage of hospitalized healthy adults have long term consequences. What are the absolute numbers?
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05-09-2020, 09:32 PM
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#4720 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by Jmac The groups of 2-6 thing is like ... a family. Not 2-6 people all from different households. | I read it as a few friends or extended family, not restricted to just family.
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05-09-2020, 09:45 PM
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STILL. 
There seems to be a very small group of people who fail to perceive that the results we see now, compared to say Italy, Spain, and Wuhan, are a result of the strict measures that were enforced. The reason "you're minimum 20x more blah blah blah" is because the social distancing rules effectively prevented complete catastrophe. The projections of millions getting sick and hundreds of thousands dying are based on if nothing was done to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. Thankfully not everyone in government is a complete idiot, so we were able to prevent these spikes from occurring in most cities. New York being an exception. Imagine if the rest of the country was like New York? People would be WISHING that their problems were merely unemployment. Jesus fuck.
You're basically saying "what we did worked, but since not many people got sick, we shouldn't have done it". It's easy to see a toddler making an argument like that, but come fucking on.
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05-09-2020, 10:27 PM
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#4722 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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yep beaches were packed but distancing was still observed
some runners on seawall still whip by with only a few ft buffer though
what's pretty concerning are enclosed wet markets
granville island and crystal mall produce area (not to mention mostly cash transaction) should really be regulating capacity
went to the dealer parts counter and they're still asking signature with a pen after card machine  ...it's <$100 please upgrade to nfc tap
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05-10-2020, 12:18 AM
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#4723 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp STILL.
There seems to be a very small group of people who fail to perceive that the results we see now, compared to say Italy, Spain, and Wuhan, are a result of the strict measures that were enforced. The reason "you're minimum 20x more blah blah blah" is because the social distancing rules effectively prevented complete catastrophe. The projections of millions getting sick and hundreds of thousands dying are based on if nothing was done to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. Thankfully not everyone in government is a complete idiot, so we were able to prevent these spikes from occurring in most cities. New York being an exception. Imagine if the rest of the country was like New York? People would be WISHING that their problems were merely unemployment. Jesus fuck.
You're basically saying "what we did worked, but since not many people got sick, we shouldn't have done it". It's easy to see a toddler making an argument like that, but come fucking on. | I don't really think it's reasonable to say the measures have worked just based off what the projections were.
I read projections that Sweden would see 40000 deaths by May 1st if they continued their loose strategy, and they're only at 3200 as of today. Still a sizeable number for a country of 10 million. But nowhere near what was projected.
You really can't tell if something is working unless you have a point of reference.
Just saying.
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05-10-2020, 01:35 AM
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People REALLY misunderstand the "loose strategy" used in Sweden
They still have social distancing and stuff like that. It's just more 'relaxed' - the gathering limit is 50 instead of 8, but it is "suggested" to keep it to a minimum. Most people go along with that. High Schools and colleges were still closed. They are still cautious, with social distancing and hand washing recommendations.
And on top of that, they have an extremely low population density - about the same as Vancouver Island (25 per Km2 - NYC, England, Hubei province, and Italy are about 10X that, Wuhan about 200X). The concern of overcrowded hospitals wasn't as dramatic as other places.
And on top of all that, they are benefiting from the lockdown at large in Europe. If nobody else locked down, they'd be just as fucked as everyone else. If everyone suddenly opened up and there was another wave, they'd be screwed.
If US or Canada tried to do what Sweden did, it would be an absolute disaster.
The measures have worked, because we're sitting here talking about it on the internet instead of seeing our parents get buried in mass graves. Places that weren't able to cope are doing that right now.
Maybe they were too drastic, but as someone said in this very thread, it's better to look back and say you overreacted, than it is to wish you had done more. What's really dumb is looking at the results of a successful strategy, and saying because it was so successful, it shouldn't have been done. It is mindblowing that there are people saying this, but again it's the toddler mentality that I just have to accept when I go online.
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05-10-2020, 05:04 AM
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Evidently the people screaming we've overreacted clearly don't have family members or relatives ill/dying/dead.
Easy to sit behind your keyboard or picket sign when it ain't you putting your family on the line. How about we trade your parents' lives so I can go get my haircut. Greater good right?
And scoffing at Sweden's "only 3k" deaths. That's more than died from 9/11 and we still hold vigils annually around the world for them to this day.
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