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No one has followed the rules since the beginning.
I stayed in consistently and only work and home and essential groceries for about 3-4 weeks before I basically started going where I want, when I want to get non-essential groceries, vanity items, etc. Also eating out at work 75%+ of the time at varying restys and take out places.
No one wears masks. Like maybe when you go to a crowded superstore etc there are more but on average I’d say under 10% total wear masks. People do not wear masks in multi-family dwellings like high rises, low rises etc as far as I’ve seen. I have not once seen cleaning of exterior or interior points of contact by people who manage these buildings.
I occasionally will see people wipe down interac key pads or give you hand sanitizer at the door etc. However, these people are not doing it every time, nor do they seem to understand the How transmission or cross contamination works.
People have been getting together in groups of more than people you live with since the beginning because either A) they are too dumb to understand the gravity of the situation or B) they simply don’t care.
With that said I really don’t see how you can really say how effective the overall strategy is. Public transit is obviously a big transmission point, as would large gatherings like Canucks games etc. However, people have been ignoring the guidelines from the beginning. It’s not just this past weekend at the beach. Imo if community transmission was as big of an issue as it’s said to be, we would be wayyyy worse off.
Even at work for me, a giant company does not understand nor provide adequate information and teaching as to properly remove PPE. As I said before I used to run asbestos abatements with my former company. The procedure to remove PPE for particles which are essentially visible to the naked eye takes 7-10 minutes. Companies thinking its adequate to wear a surgical mask and wipe down your phone while going into high rises of 600+ People are out of their fucking minds. If the virus was present on a surface you touched, you’ve got it if it’s as contagious as led to believe.
So if we go a couple weeks and see no spike in cases, or everything continues to level off and decline, I think you seriously have to look at other factors such as quality of living, accessibility, density, and overall general health of the lower mainland population as oppose to “strict” controls which achieved this current state.
So the dummies are right that we didn't have to lock down, since we didn't lock down anyway... But since we didn't lock down anyway, nobody lost their jobs and "the economy" is doing just fine?
Plus, people are bored and with the malls closed, they carry a lot of household goods such as electronics, sporting goods, clothing, and gardening supplies.
pro-tip: costco.ca will deliver many of those products right to your door.
Costco has had some of the best “social distancing” procedures from the beginning. Employees watching for social distancing, well marked. Proper line control.
The local veggie mart? First time I went in there on Broadway it was 30 people in a 1500sq/f place.... and most of that space is occupied with vegetables lol. They have since implemented a self guided lineup outside which no one watches, but you can walk through that place without going going into someone’s personal space.
I can agree with you if you want to support local, but to say it’s a bad and dangerous place to go to is ridiculous. One stop shop, go home and your good for a seriously long time.
I’d say Costco Willingdon is under 30% when I’ve got and Costco gaglardi or whatever is less than that.
Donald’s market is my closest Grocer which is probably under 30% and then Nesters where my parents live in a fairly affluent neighborhood is literally zero. You’re the oddball if you’re wearing one.
I would be that oddball. I will even wear a mask if I go to a local beach and sit down. Better be safe than sorry.
Costco had some of the best “social distancing” procedures from the beginning. Employees watching for social distancing, well marked. Proper line control.
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Had to head out the last couple days, and I'm shocked... Traffic is like back to normal... Hell worse even, I've never experienced a traffic jam @ 7:30pm out at my rents
Any enclosed indoor space full of people is bad and dangerous. Wearing a mask in those places is literally acknowledging that is the case.
Avoiding them is the core tenet of our pandemic strategy in this province.
Why expose yourself if you don't have to?
i'm a germaphobe so just glad opening doors with sleeves and tapping x-walk button with the elbow is finally the norm
but even i'm relaxing up a bit
at the initial outbreak and it was over-preparing and over-protection but now 2 months of no structure/routine is getting to me
at some point we need to continue paying bills and a walk, a ride or a cruise isn't enough anymore for mental and physical well-being..didn't gain weight because i probably traded muscle for fat
still refraining from enclosed areas where distancing is a challenge but everything else i've accepted as being normal for the next several years..keeping the n95 and hand sani close when i'm out and continue to shun strangers haha
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Had to head out the last couple days, and I'm shocked... Traffic is like back to normal... Hell worse even, I've never experienced a traffic jam @ 7:30pm out at my rents
Wtf ppl
Traffic was so light mid-March, it was great for people like me who still had to commute. Not only did it cut my time down quite a bit, but my fuel economy went from about 8.3 L/100 km to 6.7 L/100 km (combined with Chevron’s offer for healthcare workers of $10/off with min. 20 L fill and low gas prices, meant I was paying about $5.50/day in fuel (50 L) vs my usual $13.50/day). If I filled every 20 L would’ve been less but obviously not work the extra risk to save a few bucks.
It’s been as bad, if not worse, here since Easter. Fucking sucks. Combined with free parking at the hospital, means also a massive pain in the ass trying to find parking when I get to work.
Maybe this insane traffic is just the burbs. While in Van you can notice the amount of cars has risen since March, I have still yet to experience anything remotely close to regular levels and I do leave the house in my car at least 6 times a week.
I've been working as per normal since the lock down but changed my work location from Olympic Village to Downtown, really the difference of just over the Cambie Bridge. Daily commute from East Van and leaving the house between 730/800 and coming home between 430/500.
Traffic was non existent in March like no joke I'd be going down Kingsway and see a total of maybe 10 cars from Nanaimo to Main. Coming home was dead too.
April had a a rise but still definitely like 20% of normal volume in the morning and maybe 30% after work.
Now in May it's more the same for me on my routes and times. Maybe a 5-10% increase from what I saw in April. Only different is weekend traffic is heavier but again still no where near normal weekend traffic yet.
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So the dummies are right that we didn't have to lock down, since we didn't lock down anyway... But since we didn't lock down anyway, nobody lost their jobs and "the economy" is doing just fine?
People ignoring the lockdown is different from business ignoring lockdown orders. Businesses wont risk losing their licenses permanently whereas individuals have nothing to lose other than "maybe" getting a ticket?
So essentially you fucked yourself up for minimal benefit.
Hong Kong just had another local case after how many months of 100% masking and social distancing measures? Would it be outrageous to assume there is a large undiagnosed infection reservoir out there? Otherwise, where would she get the virus from? So do you lock down again? Then if it comes under control, you relax measures then comes the third wave, fourth wave, etc. What is the long term plan?
I've barely been driving at all, Grocery store ever 7 to 10 days, I've made a few dump runs and some misc. since beginning of March.
As a matter of fact I just filled up for the first time yesterday since the beginning of March, cheapest gas in a long time and no need to buy gas.
I'm thinking I might start working from the office in June but I'm playing it by ear really.
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i'm assuming the blurrered words work ass hole and something similar?
don't see how that's racist....just facts about the bat eating wet markets lol
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I think there was a lot more outrage at the Twitter post which cut it off at “... world is now on hold”. So you didn’t see the pro-vegan portion and lost the context. Still not something a public figure should be posting on a public forum.
I ordered from them pretty early on and I haven't received any additional FedEx charge since then. So it must've been something that started happening later on.
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I think there was a lot more outrage at the Twitter post which cut it off at “... world is now on hold”. So you didn’t see the pro-vegan portion and lost the context. Still not something a public figure should be posting on a public forum.
eh it's bryan adams (honestly had to double check who wrote it as it clearly wasn't someone "big" enough to really think it mattered) no one cares about him
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