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Hondaracer 02-06-2020 04:23 PM

Lol I don’t get these news reports and anchors trying to emphasize about singling out Chinese over corona and stigmaziting the Chinese because of it

It started in China, it was Chinese people eating bats that started it, it spread in China to the point we see it at today, and the Chinese govt. tried to cover it up and downplay the severity of it. It’s very much a “Chinese” thing lol

SkinnyPupp 02-06-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8973647)
Lol I don’t get these news reports and anchors trying to emphasize about singling out Chinese over corona and stigmaziting the Chinese because of it

It started in China, it was Chinese people eating bats that started it, it spread in China to the point we see it at today, and the Chinese govt. tried to cover it up and downplay the severity of it. It’s very much a “Chinese” thing lol

This is the case where "politically correct" has actual use and is not a punchline. It's not politically correct to name a virus after people or a place (or animals). WHO stopped doing it after MERS.

It was colloquially called Wuhan Coronavirus at first for obvious reasons, but media now calls it by its proper politically correct name, 2019 New (or Novel) Coronavirus or 2019 nCoV

If someone still calls it "Wuhan Virus" or whatever, and aren't in the press, I don't think that's a problem. Maybe don't do it though. Regardless of if you think someone is a "snowflake" for bringing it up, why not just be sensitive to people? It makes the world a better place overall. Press needs to be professional though, and should not call it by its colloquial name.

I don't think it's a "huge deal" and I don't think normal people are making a "huge deal" out of it. There is definitely some anti-US propaganda going around China, complaining that H1N1 outbreak wasn't called "American Virus" (it actually started in Mexico btw). Absolutely people were calling it "American Swine Flu" around the world and "Swine Flu" in America and elsewhere. It's such a dumb argument to use though, fighting xenophobia with your own xenophobia FailFish

Anyway my thought is, if people are saying they don't like it when you call something that, why not just call it something else? Does it hurt to do that? Who is actually the snowflake?

twitchyzero 02-06-2020 04:55 PM

it's a tabloid-format print, they're not gonna put 2019-nCoV in bold letters front page

the formal nomenclature itself isn't even finalized because it's still so new

the fact that it's even debated just puts everything into perspective

SkinnyPupp 02-06-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8973651)
it's a tabloid-format print, they're not gonna put 2019-nCoV in bold letters front page

the formal nomenclature itself isn't even finalized because it's still so new

the fact that it's even debated just puts everything into perspective

I see some places simply calling it "Coronavirus" which at this time everyone knows what it means, despite it being technically inaccurate.

HKFP dropped "Wuhan" from the name after one complaint on twitter. So while they don't call it by its official name (which is not at all reader or SEO friendly) they did accommodate the naming convention.

I think it's good to debate stuff like this. Let's get better at considering the feelings of others!

threezero 02-06-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8973645)
Apparently Dr. Li is still alive, barely. They reportedly have restarted his heart and have him on ECMO (artificial lung)

Fucking tragic if this man dies.

What is the source on this. Chinese social media is exploding over this. The internet police is on overtime right now.

People are starting to realize the what happened when their rights on infringe on by a government that is always “right”

SkinnyPupp 02-06-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8973657)
What is the source on this. Chinese social media is exploding over this. The internet police is on overtime right now.

People are starting to realize the what happened when their rights on infringe on by a government that is always “right”

Mind you it has been 11 hours since these tweets:


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UPDATE: He died a few hours after this. What a shame


SkinnyPupp 02-06-2020 06:27 PM

Wuhan police “letter of reprimand” to Li Wenliang: translation and analysis

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This is an odd document for a couple of reasons — so much so that I first wondered if it might be fake, but I then discovered that Li had presented the document himself to Caixin. But look at the language: instead of the usual formal style of official documents, we have exclamation marks in what reads more like a transcript of a police officer barking at a suspect: “听明白了吗? Have you got that?” The document is suffused with the language of offended Authority scolding a wayward and insufficiently obedient subject.

danned 02-06-2020 09:31 PM

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SkinnyPupp 02-06-2020 11:46 PM

My gym now checks your temperature before letting you in... Good thing I passed EleGiggle

Saw a huge line of old people outside a Circle K. Turns out they gave away 10,000 masks to people over 65. Only one each, but people still lined up. Many are using them for several days, even though really you shouldn't use one for more than a couple hours.

They have been producing them at the prison 24 hours a day for a while now, I wonder where they are ending up? Certainly not in HK citizens' hands.

ae101 02-06-2020 11:51 PM

my heart outs to all those effect and as well as all the medical personal working, but sadly it doesn’t go out to ignorance which applies mostly to the government for not learning anything from SARS cuz all of this could have been prevented

Also friend bought a bunch of mask and he ask me to hand them out for free instead of donating them, he doesn’t want ppl buying used mask or buying over price masks

asian_XL 02-07-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8973696)
My gym now checks your temperature before letting you in... Good thing I passed EleGiggle

Saw a huge line of old people outside a Circle K. Turns out they gave away 10,000 masks to people over 65. Only one each, but people still lined up. Many are using them for several days, even though really you shouldn't use one for more than a couple hours.

They have been producing them at the prison 24 hours a day for a while now, I wonder where they are ending up? Certainly not in HK citizens' hands.

I only have less than one box of masks sharing with 7 people at home...only one person can go out and buy food and the mask has to be reused at least 1-2 days. It has been like this for 2 weeks or so.

SkinnyPupp 02-07-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 8973706)
I only have less than one box of masks sharing with 7 people at home...only one person can go out and buy food and the mask has to be reused at least 1-2 days. It has been like this for 2 weeks or so.

I should be getting some soon and will have some to spare if you need (if they actually ever show up). DM me if you're serious!

belka 02-07-2020 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ae101 (Post 8973697)
my heart outs to all those effect and as well as all the medical personal working, but sadly it doesn’t go out to ignorance which applies mostly to the government for not learning anything from SARS cuz all of this could have been prevented

You mean high population density, poor controls and limits on animal-human interaction and wet markets are not breeding grounds for virus's that could wipe out humanity? This won't be the last disease coming out of china....

Mr.HappySilp 02-07-2020 07:52 AM

Wife's friend who works as a driver for the Beijing train were given one mask every 10 days or longer. WTF good thing the in laws have a bunch of mask (boxes) left over form last year when the pollution was really bad they had to use them. So they give him some.

Y2K_o__o 02-07-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8973576)
If they had done that, someone would be posting an article saying "China ignores company's copyright and steals their work to create and sell counterfeit drugs"

Can't win man. Also I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of the copyright application in this case... I don't believe there's any intention to make money off their own citizens in this case.

That is partly true

but after the emergency situation, will the institute hand the patent over to Gilead in China?

What i can see is, there will be two version of Remdesivir from different region and it's just going to be a chaos like other trademark issues (Best example is New Balance).

RiceIntegraRS 02-07-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8973711)
I should be getting some soon and will have some to spare if you need (if they actually ever show up). DM me if you're serious!

How much are the N95 masks selling for nowadays? Theres actually better, possibly cheaper alternatives out there that I would use over theses masks especially over in China/HK

6793026 02-07-2020 01:40 PM

they were selling for 5.99 at crappy tire on cambie and broadway today. Do have to check which n95 it is.
Regular dusk mask at 4.99.

If this ever happened in USA, they would never name this as Seattle/ new york/ texas virus.

Vansterdam 02-07-2020 03:05 PM

my buddys going to HK this weekend and packed a suitcase full of different type of masks for his family which is the only thing his family requested lol

SkinnyPupp 02-07-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 8973762)
How much are the N95 masks selling for nowadays? Theres actually better, possibly cheaper alternatives out there that I would use over theses masks especially over in China/HK

Not sure about N95, but regular masks are about 10X normal price.

A friend gathered orders for a bunch of people, and ordered tons of masks online in Japan right when this started, so we were able to get them for normal price. I ordered some extras in case I needed to give some out. We'll have to go get them once they make it to Hong Kong - we're not going to trust a freight forwarder so we'll pick it up ourselves (and be very careful, I can see someone trying to rob us if they are desperate enough)

You don't need N95 anyway; you just need to keep peoples' cough juice out of your face if you come across someone coughing.

Keeping hands clean is the most important

SFU_wmc 02-07-2020 03:29 PM

better safe than sorry...

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https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...c3&oe=5EC90B6B

SkinnyPupp 02-07-2020 03:58 PM

If that person has a compromised immune system, they may not have a choice but to use that

yray 02-07-2020 05:04 PM

I would use that without the virus. tired of rubbing shoulders

Gumby 02-07-2020 06:22 PM

Wtf is that? It looks like a ball pit for toddlers.

asian_XL 02-07-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8973711)
I should be getting some soon and will have some to spare if you need (if they actually ever show up). DM me if you're serious!

Staying at home is much safer than walking around, I will wait until the mask supplies are more stable and more reasonable priced. A rioter friend gave me a 3M tear gas mask with a dozen of N95 filters just in case someone in the family needs to go to hospital.

It is unknown who is infected around you. Better stay indoor.

yray 02-07-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 8973813)
Staying at home is much safer than walking around, I will wait until the mask supplies are more stable and more reasonable priced. A rioter friend gave me a 3M tear gas mask with a dozen of N95 filters just in case someone in the family needs to go to hospital.

It is unknown who is infected around you. Better stay indoor.

LOL just walk by the police station and its a free ride to the hospital


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