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whitev70r 07-23-2020 08:17 AM

Haha ... rules are for peasants, politicians just make them.

spoon.ek9 07-23-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon (Post 8993452)
Yeah, it's too bad. I liked his posts too. They were from someone actually in the medical field.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993453)
Banning peeps with constructive discussion, rock on Revscene..

I stayed quiet about half of the garbage he was posting. There are situations from time to time where a medical professional will say incorrect things and twdm did this multiple times and never once admitted he was wrong in any sort of way. A medical professional who is unable to admit being wrong is incredibly dangerous in our field. The sheer arrogance in his erroneous posts was honestly just infuriating to read many times but luckily lots of you have educated yourselves enough to see where he was wrong.

Off the top of my head (and you can go back and read his comments), he stated from the beginning that this is just another flu. He was clearly wrong and months later only offered a "that's obvious now" reply.

He brushed off the higher R0 value (how infectious this virus is) even though every single pharmacist I've talked to understands that it is exponentially higher than your regular flu.

He claimed that health care professionals are speaking from their high horse in terms of how to handle the spread because it doesn't affect our pocketbooks but as soon as it was convenient for another argument he placed himself and his parents on that exact same pedestal.

He argued that we shouldn't be spending so much money on "people who are going to die in 5 years anyways". He's talking about people who have contributed to our society and contributed tax dollars for longer than he's been alive or bare minimum, longer than he's been a healthcare worker. They have every right to be protected and we (especially as healthcare providers!) have every responsibility to do so.

He tried to argue that don't even spend this much money on cancer treatment. I can tell you first hand that this argument is bullshit. Also, if he doesn't care about people who are going to die in 5 years, why bother with cancer patients then? His logic makes no sense. There are treatments in the cancer clinic I work in that can be as expensive as $15,000-$20,000+ per treatment and that's every 2-3 weeks. Even with the "cheaper" treatments we've seen patients go through 100+ cycles (repeating every 2 weeks). Do the math, that's YEARS we've added to these patient's lives. I'm pretty damn sure they appreciate it. We've had countless families express their gratitude to our staff for any extra time we were able to give to their loved ones; even if it was only a year or less.

I'm sure there's more but I digress. His posts weren't as great as some of you seem to think. There's obviously a segment of you who like to debate the other side of things even when you know it's most likely wrong. You simply want to hear an opposing view just for the sake of argument.

mikemhg 07-23-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8993569)
Weird hey?! There’s this other infectious thing I’ve heard about too. Slips my mind though

I'll give you that one :lol

mikemhg 07-23-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993624)
God he’s such a fucking clown.

If you knew the level of corruption in his group, your head would spin.

A friend of mine is a director in the Vancouver Economic Commission, and reports directly to the mayor.

I bet none of you had heard about VEC CEO Catherine Warren stepping down after her "contract" winded up with the VEC back in February 2020.

Her contract didn't end, and there's a reason why she wasn't retained. Internally they found that she had been embezzling funds to her private company from the city of Vancouver, up to roughly $1 million was stolen.

The city decided to let her go, rather than pursuing those funds, and going public with the theft. Now the VEC has a major budget shortfall as a result of her theft.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...erine-warren-2

You won't hear a single new article about this because it's been entirely covered up, and she'll continue on with her golden parachute to another high level position for another organization.

Can you imagine if any of us here stole upwards of $1 million from a company? What blows my is how the media was not been informed about this, it truly makes me wonder the level of corruption that is going on at the local level here in this city and province.

welfare 07-23-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 8993635)

I'm sure there's more but I digress. His posts weren't as great as some of you seem to think. There's obviously a segment of you who like to debate the other side of things even when you know it's most likely wrong. You simply want to hear an opposing view just for the sake of argument.

If there were no opposing views, our health officials would still be saying masks are dangerous, or that border/travel restrictions cause more harm than good.

Personally, I never said I agreed with anything he was saying. In fact, I pretty much agree with everything you said in the above post. I just don't agree that banning members you believe are wrong, or disagree with, is ultimately helpful.

Ch28 07-23-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8993618)
tbh I thought moonbeam was still mayor

That's cause he has done absolutely fuck all as the Mayor of Vancouver

Ch28 07-23-2020 11:15 AM

B.C. doctor heads to court to demand mandatory mask rules

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tion-1.5659495

This should've happened a long fucking time ago. None of this pussyfooting around we "recommend" masks bullshit.

68style 07-23-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8993662)
If you knew the level of corruption in his group, your head would spin.

A friend of mine is a director in the Vancouver Economic Commission, and reports directly to the mayor.

I bet none of you had heard about VEC CEO Catherine Warren stepping down after her "contract" winded up with the VEC back in February 2020.

Her contract didn't end, and there's a reason why she wasn't retained. Internally they found that she had been embezzling funds to her private company from the city of Vancouver, up to roughly $1 million was stolen.

The city decided to let her go, rather than pursuing those funds, and going public with the theft. Now the VEC has a major budget shortfall as a result of her theft.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...erine-warren-2

You won't hear a single new article about this because it's been entirely covered up, and she'll continue on with her golden parachute to another high level position for another organization.

Can you imagine if any of us here stole upwards of $1 million from a company? What blows my is how the media was not been informed about this, it truly makes me wonder the level of corruption that is going on at the local level here in this city and province.

Sounds like your friend should do the right thing and drop a hot tip... everyone clowned Bolton for not stepping up and speaking out... but so many others would also choose their own job over the “right thing” I guess...

CivicBlues 07-23-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8993662)
If you knew the level of corruption in his group, your head would spin.

A friend of mine is a director in the Vancouver Economic Commission, and reports directly to the mayor.

I bet none of you had heard about VEC CEO Catherine Warren stepping down after her "contract" winded up with the VEC back in February 2020.

Her contract didn't end, and there's a reason why she wasn't retained. Internally they found that she had been embezzling funds to her private company from the city of Vancouver, up to roughly $1 million was stolen.

The city decided to let her go, rather than pursuing those funds, and going public with the theft. Now the VEC has a major budget shortfall as a result of her theft.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...erine-warren-2

You won't hear a single new article about this because it's been entirely covered up, and she'll continue on with her golden parachute to another high level position for another organization.

Can you imagine if any of us here stole upwards of $1 million from a company? What blows my is how the media was not been informed about this, it truly makes me wonder the level of corruption that is going on at the local level here in this city and province.

Fucking Christ, if your friend doesn't want to lose his job why don't you leak it to the media? WoW.

snowball 07-23-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993624)
God he’s such a fucking clown.

Don't forget he's responsible for the VI situation due to his promise to "crack down on excessively noisy vehicles"

SkinnyPupp 07-23-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 8993681)
Fucking Christ, if your friend doesn't want to lose his job why don't you leak it to the media? WoW.

Quite a few local press members lurk here (at least they used to) so that post might have been the leak you're looking for

Hondaracer 07-23-2020 03:37 PM

Uhg..fucking idiot friend/acquaintance had a massive baby shower over the weekend, people from all over the place came no masks no social distancing now people feeling sick and getting tested

Ffs people are so incredibly stupid..

CivicBlues 07-23-2020 03:53 PM

Where do these people live?

Hondaracer 07-23-2020 03:56 PM

Surrey

Ch28 07-23-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8993714)
Surrey

This is such low hanging fruit :lol

Hondaracer 07-23-2020 05:11 PM

You wouldn’t believe.

StylinRed 07-23-2020 05:49 PM

Hopefully we don't become the state of Victoria in australia (where Melbourne is) their #s shot up to 300-500 daily cases and they've been back on lockdown

SumAznGuy 07-24-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8993726)
Hopefully we don't become the state of Victoria in australia (where Melbourne is) their #s shot up to 300-500 daily cases and they've been back on lockdown

How bad has it been there? Haven't seen much in the news lately. I know it is winter time for them so that is what we can look forward to.

How is Brazil doing as well?

CivicBlues 07-24-2020 09:16 AM

Melbourne's still at it....
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1...340bbd3c09.png

Can't really say it's due to seasonal though as the rest of Australia is still doing OK. Apparently it can all be traced back to quarantined travellers having sex with their guards, who then brought it back to their large immigrant families, who then in turn held large Eid (end-of-Ramadan) parties.

chinook79 07-24-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8993662)
If you knew the level of corruption in his group, your head would spin.

A friend of mine is a director in the Vancouver Economic Commission, and reports directly to the mayor.

I bet none of you had heard about VEC CEO Catherine Warren stepping down after her "contract" winded up with the VEC back in February 2020.

Her contract didn't end, and there's a reason why she wasn't retained. Internally they found that she had been embezzling funds to her private company from the city of Vancouver, up to roughly $1 million was stolen.

The city decided to let her go, rather than pursuing those funds, and going public with the theft. Now the VEC has a major budget shortfall as a result of her theft.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...erine-warren-2

You won't hear a single new article about this because it's been entirely covered up, and she'll continue on with her golden parachute to another high level position for another organization.

Can you imagine if any of us here stole upwards of $1 million from a company? What blows my is how the media was not been informed about this, it truly makes me wonder the level of corruption that is going on at the local level here in this city and province.

This does not surprise me at all. My line of work involves internal/external audits and I have previously discovered many individuals stealing literally millions of dollars from the government revenue. Because of headaches/costs/bad publicity/logistic nightmare, the government body rarely ever go after the money. They rather just fire/ban the individuals than charge them with theft.

chinook79 07-24-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8993753)
How bad has it been there? Haven't seen much in the news lately. I know it is winter time for them so that is what we can look forward to.

How is Brazil doing as well?

Brazil is on the par if not worse than USA. Their president just tested positive for the 3rd time COVID19. He's still alive and kicking... and is still claiming that COVID19 is just mere little flu.

mikemhg 07-24-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chinook79 (Post 8993778)
This does not surprise me at all. My line of work involves internal/external audits and I have previously discovered many individuals stealing literally millions of dollars from the government revenue. Because of headaches/costs/bad publicity/logistic nightmare, the government body rarely ever go after the money. They rather just fire/ban the individuals than charge them with theft.

I was shocked as well when he told me the city wasn't pursuing her for the funds, as to put a case together would cost them litigation fees and the negative external optics which they were trying to avoid. So they essentially made her walk, and kept it hush hush.

The VEC is a relatively small sector of the City of Vancouver, upwards of $1 million is nothing to scoff at. My friend is especially choked as this whole thing has totally ruined their initiatives for this year due to budgetary reasons. I'm surmising this hasn't came out to the press due to small size of the VEC's team.

I'm blown away by the privilege this woman can have though. Nothing on her record criminally, not even a mark on her employment record, she'll coast off to another position somewhere else with little consequence.

It shows the stark contrast in terms of the consequences and penalties between those who steal from their employer on the entry/lower level, as opposed to the executive level.

It's truly amazing how little we know as a populace in terms of what's going on in our elected governments.

Qmx323 07-24-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8993782)
I was shocked as well when he told me the city wasn't pursuing her for the funds, as to put a case together would cost them litigation fees and the negative external optics which they were trying to avoid. So they essentially made her walk, and kept it hush hush.

The VEC is a relatively small sector of the City of Vancouver, upwards of $1 million is nothing to scoff at. My friend is especially choked as this whole thing has totally ruined their initiatives for this year due to budgetary reasons. I'm surmising this hasn't came out to the press due to small size of the VEC's team.

I'm blown away by the privilege this woman can have though. Nothing on her record criminally, not even a mark on her employment record, she'll coast off to another position somewhere else with little consequence.

It shows the stark contrast in terms of the consequences and penalties between those who steal from their employer on the entry/lower level, as opposed to the executive level.

It's truly amazing how little we know as a populace in terms of what's going on in our elected governments.

For an entry/lower level employee who wants to steal small bucks, they will be the only one to know of it until they get caught.

For an executive level person stealing that kind of money, more than one pair of eyes must have been turned to allow that to happen. :heckno:

StylinRed 07-24-2020 06:48 PM

Speaking of Surrey, I didn't realize that giant house parties were still going on until recently smh

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8993753)
How bad has it been there? Haven't seen much in the news lately. I know it is winter time for them so that is what we can look forward to.

How is Brazil doing as well?

Australia actually says their regular flu season has been a no show thanks to mask use n social distancing/quarantine typically 14k a month of season flu, and they had like a few hundred by may/June iirc

SkinnyPupp 07-24-2020 06:56 PM

Season doesn't seem to matter, and we have pretty much stamped out influenza as a good extra benefit of the coronavirus measures people are taking.

All it takes to get a huge outbreak where thousands get sick is a couple people fucking up. That's what happened in Melbourne (in the winter) and it's what is happening in Hong Kong now (in the summer).


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