Right before I enter the elevator, yes.

interior health region, all 800,000 of us, are up to a whopping 19 cases and no hospitalizations. still at close to 0% mask wearing and theres more alberta plates here than most summers. 15% of the population account for 2% of the cases and 0% of the hospitalizations

what the hell are you guys doing down in vancouver?

Bros gotta be bros... where the party at

South Korea is still doing leagues better than Canada 300 a day for an entire nation with almost double our population and 1/100th the size

South Korea is great at contact tracing

Australia needs better contact tracing but they're great at enforcement

New zealanders are actually "in it together" as they're willingly following the rules, and quick to lockdown with just a few cases

I see quite a few Alberta, Manitoba plates around downtown Stanley park and a couple Washington plates as well.

We have an airport that people fly into unfortunately, and specifically, there is a pattern of the flights going Toronto to Vancouver, and vice versa having a disproportionate amount of exposures.
Spend 12 hours in your jacked up Silverado with a couple buddies from grande prairie, or spend 3 hours in a tube from one of the hardest hit areas of Canada with 260 people. The blanks are filling themselves in.
Thats the think about exponential growth, you just start with a few, then it can get away from you real fuckin quick.

Yes. As soon as I step foot out of my apartment, I already have a mask on. My building has also instituted a rule that only occupants of the same apartment can be in the elevator at one time. So far, I haven't come across anyone who has issue with this policy which is great. Even people who aren't wearing masks aren't trying to come into the elevator with me.

So apparently there's been rumblings at VGH to inner staff that we might be going into another lock-down in a few weeks from now...

We shall see.

^^ I mean we have no choice if the gov continues to say just be good kids now, please just try to occasionally wear a mask if it isn't too much of an inconvenience

It seems ridiculous to lock down businesses again instead of just implementing rules to stop mass gatherings of people who don't give a shit.

Edit: totally read this wrong

Yea bro there’s 8 people in the hospital in a Province of 5 million, we’d better lock down ASAP and decimate another 25-40% of small businesses just for good measure.

I'm on your side there bud, just passing information along.

I agree entirely. I don't think the country, or the people for that matter, can stand another shutdown as we did back in March.

So there's 2500+ people isolating due to potential exposure, what % of these are testing positive? What % of daily positive cases are from this pool of isolated people? Why is no one asking this??

I would think it’s because they don’t have that data.

Does anyone know why cities do not have the power to fine people for disobeying the rules?

If fines were actually being handed out, I’d say you’d see a marked changed in people’s behaviours. Locking down isn’t the answer. Rumblings in the back room, to create fear among the public is smart though :p

I don't know, I have a feeling that it would make people go against it even harder. The type of person not to wear a mask is the kind that is always looking for a reason to feel persecuted. That's why you often see them argue that it's "their right" to put other people in danger because it's uncomfortable to wear a mask.

I mean, they can go against it and go broke if they really want to in that case. It's a lot better for us if there is consequences instead of these dipshits thinking they "stuck it to the man and won"

This is the thing, I mean instead of the bylaw officers running around giving out parking tickets, they should be doing this. I mean we've got bigger worries than some guy parked for 2 hours in a one hour zone. The main fear would be the amount of flak they would get, i mean there is a reason they like parking enforcement, they sit in a bush until you leave then quickly run up and throw a ticket on your dash and run away. But the government needs to figure that shit out and start fining people who aren't playing by the rules.

Realistically it seems enough thought wasn't given as to what should and shouldn't be open. IMO clubs is a no brainer, why the fuck would they be open. TBH Gyms should be closed as well, i mean come on, your going somewhere where you are forced to touch equipment that everyone before you also went there to touch. Get some free weights at home and workout there. You could have easily afforded them in the last 6 months of paying your gym membership.

The biggest thing is people need to keep their circles smaller.

my social circle is probably 1/10 of what it was, and the instances I am outside of it with other people I am either distancing or wearing a mask. Not that hard.

We’re not talking about wearing masks, since it currently isn’t a rule.

Fining for a mask, you may be right. But one individual person controls that outcome. Gatherings are the decision of multiple, all for which need to have a personality/outlook for which you describe to make said gathering.

Meme405... they have to keep handing out parking tickets, they don’t have the power to fine from what I understand. City workers telling people they “shouldn’t” be doing this or that won’t do much.

Imo enforcing and policing the homeless downtown should be a bigger priority than giving people social distancing tickets, shit is becoming a bigger risk to public health than covid the way it’s going.

Outside of massive gatherings what, you’re going to start ticketing people for being in groups of 7 or more? How can anyone prove they don’t live together, aren’t in each others bubbles etc. It’s pointless

I wasnt talking about fining for wearing a mask, I was talking about fining businesses who aren't following the rules for capacities, and people gathering in large groups, etc.

TBH I don't even know what BC's rules actually are. But I can see why they'd want to avoid being confrontational with masks. Eventually they'll have to though, if people don't accept it as normal members of society.

With things like clubs and indoor venues still open though, it seems like they're not even really trying that hard.

It's not either 0% or 100% lockdown. They can target what gets shut down to make the risks as minimal as possible.

Yeah I know. Too half was for skinny, bottom for you.

I believe worksafebc are the ones to go after for businesses not operating properly, and they do have the ability to hand out big tickets.