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Old 09-02-2020, 01:11 PM   #6126
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My sister sent me the package for Richmond she got from the school, it’s insanely comprehensive and 40+ pages long.... so I’m not buying that supposed teachers post unless Richmond is just somehow light years ahead of Vancouver on this
I also just spent the weekend with a friend of ours who is a public school teacher in west van and he said the procedures and whatnot are mostly in place and he’s satisfied with them. Said they are taking a very slow approach to see what works and what doesn’t etc. Also that they’ve been doing trial runs without students and have had small group training/meetings on in class instruction and scenarios

The above post just sounds like typical whiny teacher bs
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Thoughts from a 1st Grade Teacher in Vancouver

This sounds terrifying.

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  1. We literally receive information about the back-to-school plan from Rob Fleming's press releases, or from the news.
  2. Our classrooms are not safe, and no steps have been taken to change this.
  3. We have been asked to make something from nothing.
  4. We were informed just yesterday that we will likely be responsible for both sides of the hybrid model.
  5. We are sick of the gaslighting. The government should be honest about the fact that they have decided that keeping students home and the economy closed is more detrimental than the possibility that some students, families and teachers will get sick, and some may even die.
  6. Considerable money has been pledged to make schools safer, but most of it is as-yet unallocated.
  7. We love our students and we are scared.
Grocery store employees can handle it, im sure teachers can....
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Plenty of people dealing with different members of the public all day long I think the teachers can handle a class of the same 60 students.

It frustrates me because everyone else in the world has been dealing with Covid since March now, obviously there is risk no question but we have to at least try and hope that we can push through. Will Covid cases rise? I'm sure without a doubt but as long as the deaths stay relatively low you gotta keep pushing. Your average home depot or grocery store employee has way more risk then you do teachers but their at work everyday for a lot less money.

If it doesn't work and things go crazy then we reevaluate.
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Grocery store employees can handle it, im sure teachers can....
I don’t think you understand the difference between children and *adults

Edit: *local Canadian adults. Not to be confused with American adults who are often mistaken for acting like children
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Highest number of cases since the pandemic and not wave two my ass. Let's put on our maga 2020 hats on too.
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Highest number of cases since the pandemic and not wave two my ass. Let's put on our maga 2020 hats on too.
I saw on the news, yesterday she said the curve has flattened.
I'm a bit confused.
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I don’t think you understand the difference between children and *adults

Edit: *local Canadian adults. Not to be confused with American adults who are often mistaken for acting like children
There are so many more controls a school can put in place than a grocery store. Like, infinitely more.

Also you are consistently dealing with the same people day in day out in a completely controllable environment. A grocery store etc. You’re literally at the mercy at the random action of complete strangers.
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^^ But grocery stores are able to enforce mandatory face masks but schools can't
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Again, for the thousandth time, if what you’re relying on is masks, you’re doing it wrong.

PPE is the LAST line of defence in your systems. I can pretty much guarantee you there isn’t a school district in Canada who is just saying, wear a mask and go back.

And as I’ve quoted before, Bonnie said, masks are literally the least Effective form of control.

You put protocols in place which are fool proof, yes, even for children.

Teachers may have to do a little extra but dem da breaks. Everyone in every frontline workforce has had to adjust.
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The least effective protection would be masks

The most effective would be to do school from home

What's in between?
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Cubicles, social distancing, staggered classes, a hybrid model?

It’s not my job to figure that out.
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The Rock and his whole family has tested positive for cover 19….

https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment...d-19-1.5090478
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I guess he couldn't smell what he was cookin?
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Quick searches can find every school’s reopening plans:

Abby’s 30 page manual:

https://www.abbyschools.ca/sites/def...026AUG2020.pdf

Ever evolving, taking it slow and making changes as necessary, pretty simple. Schools had 5 and 6 months to come up with a plan that telecoms, service workers, trades, bus drivers, etc had to adopt to and come up with over night.
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They're trying to say that our numbers are going up partly due to more testing... We're doing 4-5k tests a day... While states like Victoria in Australia (where Melbourne is) are doing 15k tests a day currently (they were doing 2-3X more testing before) yet their daily #s are close to ours (70-120 a day)

Makes me wonder what our numbers would be like if we tested similarly
Their population is 6.3m btw, ours is 5.1m
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We're all going to be okay. I know a few people in my network that had COVID and their symptoms were not as bad as the flu i had last year or 2 years ago.

Look at India - where there's no health care, widespread poverty, and no social distancing.
If the #'s are to believed, they're up to 80k new cases a day, but daily deaths are at about 1k.
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We're all going to be okay. I know a few people in my network that had COVID and their symptoms were not as bad as the flu i had last year or 2 years ago.

Look at India - where there's no health care, widespread poverty, and no social distancing.
If the #'s are to believed, they're up to 80k new cases a day, but daily deaths are at about 1k.
Well, as has been pointed out many times in this thread, while most survive, about 15-20% of the survivors are ending up with long-term, potentially permanent, organ damage.
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Personally think some countries are reaching a level of immunity. Probably one reason why deaths and icu admissions have been relatively low with rising case counts.
Probably one factor at least.
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Well, as has been pointed out many times in this thread, while most survive, about 15-20% of the survivors are ending up with long-term, potentially permanent, organ damage.
I spent some time looking into this last night and frankly the media spins this shit so hard to try and say this is pretty specific to Covid only or they frame it in a way that seems like this is some sort of new thing.

Virtually any and all viral infections have a risk of this organ damage or inflammation of heart tissue etc. It’s literally a laundry list of different types of infections.

Also, these types of specific inflammation of heart tissue such as the link Skinny posted above, the vast majority of it is completely treatable and most make a full recovery, albeit over time.
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No one knows what the full long term effects are yet because well...it's been less than a year since the first infection.
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