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Yes, however, the post which Skinny has seemingly deleted since which relates to the inflammation of heart tissue etc. Are very common in ALL viral infections. Not just covid.
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09-04-2020, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline No one knows what the full long term effects are yet because well...it's been less than a year since the first infection. | That's the one thing that absolutely gets me all the time whenever I read/hear someone say "we'll be fine"
There's absolutely no idea what the long term effects are on those patients that have been unfortunate enough to get COVID. People are brushing it off like "well, they survived so it's all good!" but the fact is we have no idea what sort've complications it'll open them up to in the future. Just look at things like coal mining, asbestos etc. I'm not saying it's a direct comparison, but those are two things off the top of my head where people didn't think anything of it at the time as well.
Call me paranoid but I'd rather err on the side of caution.
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09-04-2020, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ch28 That's the one thing that absolutely gets me all the time whenever I read/hear someone say "we'll be fine"
There's absolutely no idea what the long term effects are on those patients that have been unfortunate enough to get COVID. People are brushing it off like "well, they survived so it's all good!" but the fact is we have no idea what sort've complications it'll open them up to in the future. Just look at things like coal mining, asbestos etc. I'm not saying it's a direct comparison, but those are two things off the top of my head where people didn't think anything of it at the time as well.
Call me paranoid but I'd rather err on the side of caution. | To add to this, we're talking about a virus that:
1. literally no one is immune to
2. no available vaccine
3. no known treatment (still nothing standardized)
4. more than one strand now exists
5. infection does not provide immunity from other strand(s)
6. easily passed along to others if precautions are not taken
7. long term effects unknown (as mentioned above already)
How many more reasons do people need to avoid being infected?
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09-04-2020, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by welfare Personally think some countries are reaching a level of immunity. Probably one reason why deaths and icu admissions have been relatively low with rising case counts.
Probably one factor at least. | It's like I mentioned early on in the thread. It's not in a virus's best interest to kill the host and over time, it'll mutate into something less harmful. There's been mentions of reinfections but they don't know right now if it's the same virus or a newer less harmful variant.
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09-04-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer I spent some time looking into this last night and frankly the media spins this shit so hard to try and say this is pretty specific to Covid only or they frame it in a way that seems like this is some sort of new thing.
Virtually any and all viral infections have a risk of this organ damage or inflammation of heart tissue etc. Its literally a laundry list of different types of infections.
Also, these types of specific inflammation of heart tissue such as the link Skinny posted above, the vast majority of it is completely treatable and most make a full recovery, albeit over time. | Please stop spouting your personal opinion as scientific fact.
You don't know shit.
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09-04-2020, 12:24 PM
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Uhhh..ok? None of what I posted there has any sort of specificity..
Here you go, this is the condition skinny posted yesterday: https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/myocarditis
You can get this same condition which you may get from Covid from strep..
And people in the ICU that have been on a ventilator for 2 weeks having “long term health effects” really? That’s weird!
I swear some of you people are butt hurt because covid didn’t turn out to be as serious as was initially speculated lol..
As some of you have been cowering inside your homes for the last 7 months life has carried on as it was for a lot of “front line” people. While there is clearly no long term data as to the health effects from covid as CH28 posted, its hardly what people initially expected, and that data is there. Inverse relationships between hospitalizations, critical cases, etc. And the overall number of positive cases lay that out VERY clearly.
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09-04-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon It's like I mentioned early on in the thread. It's not in a virus's best interest to kill the host and over time, it'll mutate into something less harmful. There's been mentions of reinfections but they don't know right now if it's the same virus or a newer less harmful variant. |
Yea cases of reinfection have been very rare. Could be a different strain.
This recent study out of Iceland, with a fair sized sample, showed 91% of those infected still had antibodies four months later. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2026116
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09-04-2020, 12:41 PM
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Antibody testing is available from a company in Calgary at a cost of $169. Would be nice if BC could pick up the pace on this. I'd certainly pay $169 to have it done. Sure plenty of others would too
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09-04-2020, 01:16 PM
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Erring on the side of caution is fine but what do you propose Canada do? Introduce what Australia has introduced in parts of their country? https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...19-in-victoria
Restrictions are changing to slow the spread of coronavirus in Victoria.
Stage 4 restrictions are in place from 6pm on Sunday 2 August for metropolitan Melbourne. This includes a curfew from 8pm to 5am every evening. During this time people are only allowed to leave their house for work, and essential health, care or safety reasons.
From 5am – 8pm, you can only leave your home for one of the following reasons:
necessary goods and services, with limits
exercise, with limits
care and health care (including taking a pet to the vet)
work in line with restrictions on workplaces
some limited personal reasons such as in an emergency.
Some changes to the way businesses can operate during stage 4 restrictions have been announced.
Stage 3 restrictions will be in place from 11:59pm on Wednesday 5 August for Regional Victoria, including Mitchell Shire.
If you live in regional Victoria, including Mitchell Shire, there are only four reasons that you can leave home:
to shop for food and essential goods or services
to provide care, for compassionate reasons or to seek medical treatment
to exercise or for outdoor recreation with your household, or one other person
for work or study, if you can’t do it from home.
You may no longer have visitors to your home or visit other people in their homes.
Everyone must wear a mask when they leave home, unless an exception applies. This is enforceable across regional Victoria from 11:59pm on Sunday 2 August.
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09-04-2020, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 To add to this, we're talking about a virus that:
1. literally no one is immune to
2. no available vaccine
3. no known treatment (still nothing standardized)
4. more than one strand now exists
5. infection does not provide immunity from other strand(s)
6. easily passed along to others if precautions are not taken
7. long term effects unknown (as mentioned above already)
How many more reasons do people need to avoid being infected? | Sorry if you laid out your recommendation before but what do you suggest we do?
Unless there's a permanent lockdown on a global level where everything comes to a standstill until there's not even a single positive test, how else do we stamp out the virus? I know a lot of people are banking on a vaccine but how effective do we expect it to be?
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09-04-2020, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 To add to this, we're talking about a virus that:
1. literally no one is immune to
How many more reasons do people need to avoid being infected? | Tests are saying anywhere up to 80% of people infected remain completely asymptomatic (some never knew they were ever infected at all). Like this woman, never had symptoms, but continually testing positive: https://globalnews.ca/news/7315989/c...imes-covid-19/
While that's not immunity, it also means they're not really affected from a health perspective.
Obviously we still need to keep our measures up because it can still be spread to those who are vulnerable and may get experience the worst end of it.
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09-04-2020, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Great68 While that's not immunity, it also means they're not really affected from a health perspective. | It means they aren't affected with externally observable symptoms. Their health can still be affected. There have been plenty of cases of asymptomatic people having lung scarring, heart swelling, strokes, etc.
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09-04-2020, 03:54 PM
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The tweet I deleted about the athletes getting myocarditis was by Penn State's doctor, who said something like 30-35% of their athletes that tested positive showed signs of heart disease. I deleted it because he clarified, saying that the study wasn't complete yet, and he shouldn't have said that.
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09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 To add to this, we're talking about a virus that:
1. literally no one is immune to
2. no available vaccine
3. no known treatment (still nothing standardized)
4. more than one strand now exists
5. infection does not provide immunity from other strand(s)
6. easily passed along to others if precautions are not taken
7. long term effects unknown (as mentioned above already)
How many more reasons do people need to avoid being infected? | None of these matter since it's all fake! It's a LIE!!!
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09-04-2020, 04:40 PM
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Australia has been coming down HARD on 'deniers'; multiple videos of police (politely) raiding people who have organized anti-mask rallies. Hefty fines + jail time.
One could argue it's heavy-handed and surely infringing on some rights (the right to protest, for example), but if that nips the stupidity in the bud, then honestly so be it.
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09-04-2020, 05:17 PM
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My son finally got his classes. I'm kind of pissed off, he's grade 9 and had plans to take French through grade 12.
They randomly assigned electives, he didn't get French and they aren't changing any classes at his school we spoke to the principal directly. You have your 60 kids your with and that's it for the year, all 60 of you same classes/electives.
So our only option is to put him in some sort of after school program or something so he can get French 9 so he's able to take french 10 next year......
I guess nobody to blame but covid.
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09-04-2020, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by quasi My son finally got his classes. I'm kind of pissed off, he's grade 9 and had plans to take French through grade 12.
They randomly assigned electives, he didn't get French and they aren't changing any classes at his school we spoke to the principal directly. You have your 60 kids your with and that's it for the year, all 60 of you same classes/electives.
So our only option is to put him in some sort of after school program or something so he can get French 9 so he's able to take french 10 next year......
I guess nobody to blame but covid. | They assigned electives... doesn't that make it... not elective?
I would have been so fucking pissed if I'd been unable to take Japanese back then
Try to get your son in that class!
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09-04-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp They assigned electives... doesn't that make it... not elective?
I would have been so fucking pissed if I'd been unable to take Japanese back then
Try to get your son in that class! | Yeah, we'll figure a way for him to do it just a piss off. I mean I understand the keeping kids int he same group thing but they really should have prioritized electives that will have long lasting impact on the kids future.
You wanted French? To bad your taking Foods.
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09-04-2020, 05:48 PM
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So like all the dumb kids are going to be stuck with physics instead of the normal biology they would normally take?
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09-04-2020, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by inv4zn Australia has been coming down HARD on 'deniers'; multiple videos of police (politely) raiding people who have organized anti-mask rallies. Hefty fines + jail time.
One could argue it's heavy-handed and surely infringing on some rights (the right to protest, for example), but if that nips the stupidity in the bud, then honestly so be it. | So you welcome a 8pm-5am curfew, restrictions on who/how many can leave the house/day, to have police come into your home for posting something online that doesn't align with what the government tells you? These are the exact type of reasons why people flee China (and why my grandparents did).
I would be somewhat okay with some heavy-handed regulations if it's proven to stamp out the virus, but at this point it's looking like this thing is going to be around for years/the rest of our lives. Once you agree to these types of measures, it's extremely easy for these to just stick around indefinitely (it's like getting stuck with a responsibility that you temporarily accepted at work), or to accept even further, more "draconian" measures in the future as it becomes the "new normal."
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09-04-2020, 06:52 PM
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Give up freedom for safety and you’ll have neither. I’m terms of this heavy handed approach there have already been articles posted here that show the total lock down VS not is not substantially different in terms of infections etc. And the curve in places where there was no lock down VS where there was is virtually the same (albeit yes, with more deaths obviously) so now you’ve got cops knocking on your door to see how many people are in your home? Fuck off that with shit
Cops are clearly immune to the virus: last week off imperial
Prior to taking this pic there were 2 other officers and they had a shop owner in cuffs for like a ducking photo op or somthing? I watched this for about 15 minutes zero social distancing zero masks.
Also I got a speeding ticket last weekend by this cherry picker sitting in the HOV lane by Willingdon and the guy basically stuck his head in my car (assuming to try and smell booze?) even though it was like 8am, I was tempted to cough in the clowns face
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09-04-2020, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer I was tempted to cough in the clowns face | Quote:
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09-04-2020, 07:55 PM
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You really are a clown eh?
The guy sticks his head in MY window.. there was no need for it. It was 8am, I was with my wife with fishing rods on the back seat. He’s more likely to infect me as he probably comes into contact with more people, doesn’t wear a mask, and has a position of looking down into my window/face. Completely unnecessary.
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09-04-2020, 08:08 PM
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Relax bro it’s just a prank
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09-04-2020, 08:36 PM
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Yea that's one nitpick I had since the start of this, police are a representation of the gov't... They should really be wearing masks, especially when they're headed together, or dealing with the public
Looks like there was a huge party in west van and the police only fined the suspected organizer $200 because all the kids in west van have been very polite/respectful to officers... Lolwut
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