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Old 09-18-2020, 10:41 AM   #6251
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That’s cute. Not like they had 6-7 months to prepare.

Know who else is exhausted with this shit? Every other essential worker who has had to find ways to adapt on the fly since day 1.

If teachers don’t think there is proper PPE etc. In place, eventually you have to take matters into your own hands. I get they are part of this whiney ever-complaining union. However if you want to protect yourself and feel that it isn’t adequate, do somthing about it.
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That’s cute. Not like they had 6-7 months to prepare.

Know who else is exhausted with this shit? Every other essential worker who has had to find ways to adapt on the fly since day 1.

If teachers don’t think there is proper PPE etc. In place, eventually you have to take matters into your own hands. I get they are part of this whiney ever-complaining union. However if you want to protect yourself and feel that it isn’t adequate, do somthing about it.
I'm sure every person that's working a public-facing job is running into the same issues. The biggest difference between them and everyone else is that their union is always running to the media to bitch and whine about everything.
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Old 09-18-2020, 12:53 PM   #6253
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Notice how you haven’t heard from the nurses union once during covid?
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Old 09-18-2020, 12:54 PM   #6254
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Notice how you haven’t heard from the nurses union once during covid?
There’s a couple things about it.
From my wife’s experience, the nurses union is great at getting things done. She pays in an absolute shitload, but she says it’s so well worth it. They are very effective at tabling solutions with their complaints, which is really the best way to get things done. From being an outsider on the teachers unions it doesn’t always appear the same. They are always in the media.

To be fair though, nurses go to school for exactly this. They study virus transmission, medicine, PPE and have a vast understanding of this situation. Teachers don’t. They really have no clue how to deal with this situation and rightfully so are much more scared of it. That said, my friends that teach have not said the things the teachers union has when I’ve spoken to them about this. My best friend is a teacher and he has spoken about how much time and effort they have put into explaining protocols and he also understands this is a moving target. Things will change and they will have to adapt as it’s a new situation. No one has this magic answer. The media loves to stir up teacher union controversy.
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Regarding the border, I saw on the news tonight Trump said (and I quote) “Canada would like it open”.
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Technically true. We WOULD like to open the borders so we can trade, travel, get cheap gas***

***On the condition that they get their shit together 120%

Just, you know omitted most of the message and all of the fine print
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I kind of feel like as a Canadian you don't get to sing the praises of our better social systems to the USA and the go and funnel money into their economy in your desire to get cheap goods at the same time.
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Ive got to admit there've been a lot of purchases I've made recently that would've been a helluva lot cheaper if I ordered from the states and shipped to pt Roberts

I would get them a lot quicker too, eta is another month for some items whereas I could get the items monday if the border were open

But I don't mind, considering what open borders would mean
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Ive got to admit there've been a lot of purchases I've made recently that would've been a helluva lot cheaper if I ordered from the states and shipped to pt Roberts

I would get them a lot quicker too, eta is another month for some items whereas I could get the items monday if the border were open

But I don't mind, considering what open borders would mean
Yeah, a minor inconvenience in the grand scope of opening the flood gates for Washington, California, New York and Florida to start flying thousands of people here.
Our downtown store relies heavily on tourists and the cruise season was a complete wash too ... but I guess rather that than a full on explosion of COVID...
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gotta say i feel bad for the pt roberts residents
economy drying up, trapped despite zero covid cases
they're JUST starting to get free weekly boat rides back to the mainland
ottawa should really consider exception for these isolated communities like Hyder Alaska that relies heavily on us
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Trust me, nobody working for the government in Ottawa knows anything geographically about anything west of Ottawa

Even if they moved from here to there, their memory is instantly blocked somehow lol
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A lot of people seem to be banking on a vaccine while ignoring that we don't have vaccines for every fucking illness on the planet. Like, we are 40 years into HIV/AIDS and don't have a vaccine.
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Exactly, and the kind they are developing, we have never used on humans before
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A lot of people seem to be banking on a vaccine while ignoring that we don't have vaccines for every fucking illness on the planet. Like, we are 40 years into HIV/AIDS and don't have a vaccine.
This is why I have long advocated about a comprehensive track and tracing.

A safe massive scale vaccine could be years away. The supposed vaccine from both China and Russia have tested less than a thousand people, and that's "according" to what they said. God knows how many they actually tested and how many of those develop things that weren't supposed to happen.

Having PPE is also NOT a long term solution. It's a disease so powerful at spreading that it only takes a few small oversights to get one and every person he/she encounters with infected.

Taiwan is arguably the ONLY advance economy that had successful suppressed the virus with no resurgence. We are talking full scale economic activities with no major change in them (a retail location hosting a restaurant that were originally designed to have 120ppl in there paid its rents accordingly. You drop it to 30 because of social distancing, that restaurant goes bankrupt) and having tens of cases for the last couple of months.

Taiwan's success is still not complete. It's working on proposals to allow foreign visitors to come in just like before. But the base is still the same, precaution+track and tracing.

The sooner our gov't realize that we need to start making long term preparations, the better. They are avoiding like a taboo. I get it... we have a liberal party in power and god are they incompetent. But as SARS and Covid showed us, these kind of pandemic can come back at any time. Developing a system in place that you can start using it at any given moment to control a pandemic is not a waste of resources.

Out of those hundred of billions of debt we took on to combat the Covid... if even a percent or two can be spared to this, we'd have made so much progress already.

Instead what do we have? Daily new figures that doesn't show a slowdown any time soon and public is worry that any day we can go back to full lockdown.

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A virus so harmful you need to take a test to confirm if you have it, and a vaccine so beneficial some want to force you to take it.
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You take a test so you know to stay the fuck home, and you take that vaccine so you don't need to stay the fuck home
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People think a vaccine is the end all. F that....if COVID19 mutates, we are still at risk.

Vaguely read people can be reaffected even if they were healed from COVID (was it HK?). Again, no major reports on this of course.
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Not necessarily. Without cycling threshold (Google this) values included in a PCR test, a positive result only tells you part of the story.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans quarantined likely unnecessarily due to positive results with far too high CT count.
Not all positive results should be considered equal. Not all positive results indicate a contagious sample.
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