I want to thank this post but I’m pretty sure hondaracer would [rightfully so] call me out for being a hypocrite

Yes but our medical staff haven't been dying from this while we've been losing a dozen seniors/high risk individuals a day in BC alone

I'm not saying don't vaccinate our medical staff, just prioritize those who are dying first

Assuming that medical staff has been the ones carrying covid-19 to the seniors...then yes, it would make sense to vaccinate the potential carriers, especially if they work in a number of care homes. I'm nearly certain the next in line are seniors.

Forgot to mention that by vaccinating the staff, it will also address (at least some) concerns for the seniors that may refuse to get vaccinated.

What all the vaccines seem to do best is eliminate the chance of serious effects

What they don’t release and will be interesting to see if the vaccine actually prevents deaths. They may not be mutually exclusive when it comes to the efficacy.

In turds Canada prisoners get the first vaccines :whistle:

I can’t remember which vaccine it was, but they were claiming that it prevented severe cases in 100% of the cases in their trials. I’m sure there are caveats to that once the real world experience with immunocompromised people and the elderly, but if the people that aren’t getting immunity are still getting protection from severe cases, that’s fucking massive.

Pretty sure you give it to people in this order:

1) Whoever participated in the trials and was on placebo (reward them basically, and you're already accessing them)

2) Health care workers, all medical staff, care home workers

3) Seniors in care homes/populated areas

4) High risk people in areas where there have been breakouts - urban centres, etc

And go from there

Countries like Canada and Australia will probably have the easiest time, their populations are so concentrated. America is going to have a hell of a time, especially with the existing anti vaccine movement. UK has this too

I am wondering if Hong Kong will be buying one of the 3 vaccines like Pfizer, or if they're waiting on a Chinese developed one

Health care workers get prioritized because losing staff in significant numbers cripples the health care system and puts patients, who are generally much more vulnerable than the general population, at significantly higher risk.

I thought China already has a vaccine, not sure how much of it is true though... but I been told by multiple people that maybe its worth it to fly back and get vaccinated. And I keep telling them, I'm already Canadian, so I will get stopped at the border when I get off the plane... and will be on the next flight back to Vancouver lol...

If they do, they're not sending any to HK LUL I haven't heard that they do. I assume most are similar and will come out around the same time, it's probably a matter of who is testing more

It's easy for a lot of the population, but actually making it available to everyone is going to be a lot of work. People are scattered all over most of Canada in small communities.

Yeah but I think it's relatively a lower risk out there, so maybe it's not as urgent? Could be wrong

The other issue with these vaccines is that they must be kept at -70C and once thawed are only good for up to 5 days. This will make it even harder to get to people in remote areas

Do people who have had covid need vaccination?
Can we wait to see if we had undiagnosed covid thru antibody testing before we need vaccination?

Here's the priority list UK is using for phase 1 which begins next week

And yes, they say you should get the vaccine whether or not you had the virus. Since they don't know how long the antibodies last once you recover. There has been evidence that you don't stay immune forever.

Yes generally speaking, but with covid having not been affecting our healthcare workers...

Glad to see the UK prioritizing those in urgent need first

T&T in Coquitlam is closed until the 5th now for deep cleaning as more employees are covid positive

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/tt-s...losed-covid-19


And 3 superstores

They probably had a vaccine months ago. I wouldn't put it past them (CCP). Watch the US and the rest of the world die slowly........... send their citizens across the globe to spread it.

Stuff you see in Hollywood.

There are 100's of these every day, schools, grocery stores, restaurants we don't hear about 99% of them. Not the shut downs but the reported cases.

So how long is the vaccine going to last?

All it takes is one person to get it and everyone they were in close contact with (aka co-workers) has to go into 10-day quarantine even if not showing symptoms.

44 staff at Burnaby general have covid. That could be devastating for their ability to care for sick people as that’s a big chunk of their roster out. It’s just like the put on your own oxygen mask before your kids method, as if the care taker is fucked, then they’re both fucked.

B.C. has no plans to mandate COVID-19 vaccine, top doctor says

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – As talk of a COVID-19 vaccine intensifies around the world, B.C.’s top doctor is making it clear she does “not expect” immunization will be mandatory in the province.

“We have no mandatory immunizations in this country and in this province, and we do not expect that COVID immunization will be mandatory either. Having said that, there are some key positions where we know the risk of transmission … can be very high,” Dr. Bonnie Henry on Wednesday.

You mean like how she waited till a year into the pandemic til she finally admitted to mandatory face mask? Typical Canadian do nothing it'll fix itself attitude.

So the question I have are... We don't know if you maintain antibodies after you have covid. How do we know thr vaccine works long term?
6months to create a vaccine is unheard of. People are worried about possible long term side effects of covid, but not the vaccine? Its ppossible the vaccines are being rushed thru testing and certification without enough long term testing with so much money on the line? Prove its safe =/= see if it's safe. That is bad science.
The vaccines are all said to be around the 95% effective mark (after very short term testing). Normal people are 99% likely to overcome covid without symptoms.

This vaccine is probably one of the biggest windfalls for a pharmaceutical company in our lifetime. Literally the entire planet needs it and it will be paid for by governments. There's a lot.of incentive to push it out. It is not outrageous for people to not want to be first in line.

Holy crap... the list of schools which were once infected.
can't even copy and paste as its so long.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7349387/c...-in-b-c-dec-2/


Sorry but u can't mandate shit; you can't force someone to take a drug, flu shots or vaccine. I ahven't dug into it, but what were the top 5 things in which the gov't can force you do (to your body specifically)? Not talking about taxes and income tax...

Honestly, if there are side effects down the road, what the fuck would happened and it'll be gong show as once people start having vaccine, they will even be less likely to abid to social norms as they'll think they'll be invincible. No mask, no social distancing, they'll just say "I have the vaccine"... how the fuck will you prove you have taken the vaccine so police can't arrest you for breaking COVID regulations.etc.....

The doctor who was on Joe Rogan explained the percentages for the efficacy of the Vaccine as:

The average person has a 99.6% survival rate. Given the fact that the vaccine is 94% effective, it doesn’t mean that the vaccine is less effective than natural immunity it means that the vaccine will essentially “take care of” that remaining .4 percent to a 94% efficacy (for now)