Any extremism loses its value, true. There's people that will oppose the norm no matter what, there are those that make assumptions of others no matter what, and then there's those just wanting to see some facts before coming to a conclusion; by then, judgement has usually already been passed unto them.

We already know the govt. has lied to the general public on multiple occasions during covid, yet people are just willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on everything :/

I’m not saying there will be any problems with the vaccine or there is some conspiracy behind it but this eagerness to blindly accept whatever the govt. spews out as gospel is kinda fucked..

When the very “experts” everyone quotes can’t even come to a consensus on things I don’t think you’re some conservative asshole trump lover because you question a view point?

The "government" isn't approving the vaccines. It's the FDA, Health Canada which are supposed to be non-politicized and staffed by medical professionals. If it was a politician telling me that vaccines are safe then yeah, I'd like to hear what a doctor has to say. Unless of course you buy into the ridiculous conspiracy that doctors are using COVID to "make more money".

FIXT

Original made it sound like the 'government' isn't going to approve the vaccines. Just saiyan......... not that they could. Politics.

Actually trudeau has made several statements that Canada has purchased X number of doses of Pfizer vaccines and X number of doses of moderna vaccines. Neither of which have been deemed safe or authorized for use by health Canada yet. So trudeau is telling Canadians it is safe by spending Canadian money on unproven vaccines. Now I doubt there will be an issue with them, but the point is there. Governments are signing up for the vaccines and buying tens of millions of doses and then proving they meet health guidelines after the fact. In that order.

Inb4: " it's a pandemic they need to buy them asap or they won't be available. Everything will probably be safe anyway"

I kind of wish I had more dumb friends on facebook so I could be exposed to more of this KEKW

https://i.imgur.com/LSPlqg4.png

My dumb friends mostly just complain about Trudeau and gun laws

Super valid point and at this point, what can you do? Usually takes years of trials to be deemed safe. Soooo would you rather sit around for 2 yrs when every country pop champagne with losers posting how they are COVID free on social media?

Every government is putting on a huge risk; after all, if it's proven to have major side effects... huge lawsuits are coming.... Imagine you grow a 2nd penis, can't have kids, huge cancer issues post vaccine in 2030...

People want shit now and willing to forgo the risks and sign their lives away.

Doesn't look like legal action will be an option. Then again, who needs repercussions.
https://www.cbs58.com/news/drug-make...-covid-vaccine

I think the point is like you said, some people want a solution right now and will take any snake oil potion handed to them. At the same tome there are people who are a little more pragmatic and want to make sure what we are doing os safe and correct. What we don't fucking need is people who are drinking the snake oil first telling the people who are pragmatic that they're stupid conservative trump lovers. Dividing everyone isn't helping

We talk about how the US is so polarized ... just look at it here.

So even raising a very reasonable question or concern about something as huge as a Covid vaccine automatically puts you in the other extreme camp ??!! This is what some people don't quite see - in one thread they rail against the CPC and their authoritative, one sided, no option way of life. In another thread, they shit on people with a different opinion and hammer their one and only 'right' view here in a democracy.

Society is slowly turning people into extremists and social media is a huge reason why. Its easy to find people online who share your way of thinking. Before.you know it, you're in an echo chamber and you become more and more inflexible in your position.
If you disagree in any shape or way, you get labelled. Trump supporter, conspiracy theorist, critical thinker, anti vaxxer, covid denier, etc. People need to check themselves.

Yeah it's kind of weird being lumped in with trumptards because I want to know more about the vaccine. I am probably about as far left as it gets before you get to crazytown, and I just want to know more. Also I try to explain why people have their doubts. How is that "not thinking critically"? And how does that mean I am "moving goalposts" (seriously we're at that part of the conversation already?)

Lol.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/vancouve...623fcca13/amp/

This translates to: I have more smart friends that wish for more than memes before they make a logical decision, and they aren't on Revscene; so I'll I'll dumb it down and share it here.

The reason I repeat "last verse, same as the first", because you keep repeating the "dumb" over and over and.... It's okay. But don't doubt any more. Love to hate....3...2..1... but but but Trump... No - you.

Same Mayor?

https://infotel.ca/newsitem/revelsto...oversy/it74137

5:40+ in the video............

...What?

:fulloffuck:

So when a Doctor, who was the head of Pfizer's studies for vaccinations, comes out and says, "wait a minute, these chemicals don't seem right", you, keyboard cowboy, discards the an educated Doctor, that has years leading the pharma 'scientists' , you they say it's political (because that's the new easy way bullshit way to not have facts but supports your keyboard feelings),

For this one time, you don't throw "Trump" into one of your responses (called on that easy judgement over again and over again). You, who loves to hate, concedes now, that an elected politician" If it was a politician telling me that vaccines are safe then yeah, I'd like to hear what a doctor has to say."

Doctors, not haters, have spoken, and we'll always learn more for the better of humanity. Will you ever learn to stop your prejudice?

Now, my opinion - Piss off with your "Trump responses (because you have no logical response)" and sanctimony; when underscore said stupid people spew out the same ol same ol - that's you. You know it is, so enjoy your pithy relevance. I'll switch it up, doubt the rest here will, so reap what you sow.

Exactly

My friend made a good point, she said while we don't know if there are any long term issues with the vaccine, we do know there are many long term effects of covid, even if you have a mild case, so for her, taking the vaccine doesn't seem like a problem, especially if you're an older person who may not have decades left in the bank

Do you have a source on that? I'm curious what they're saying (even though I doubt I'll understand any technical stuff). Of course being an ex-employee, I also have to be curious how their employment ended. Someone trying to hurt the company because they got sacked isn't exactly unheard of.

https://www.csail.mit.edu/news/mit-s...sian-americans

MIT study: Covid-19 vaccines may be less effective for Asians

Anti-Vaxxer’s: “Good on the whistleblower, what a hero that doctor is with absolutely no research into any reasons he or she might have for saying what they did and no critical thinking, we just need more people to speak up because the government is trying to control us and it’s not right!!”

Likely the exact same people during Russia investigation: “fuck that traitor whistleblower, that left wing socialist Marxist baby raping piece of shit, give us his identity so we can drag him behind a pickup truck!”

Idiots.

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