coronavirus discussion

[320icar]

Anyone can be selfish regardless of standing.

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah doctors are just people with jobs. There's good people and bad people with all sorts of jobs, some without jobs at all.

[Jmac]

Originally Posted by MG1

So what's with some doctors in BC getting their second shot ahead of time? Every profession has their bad apples, but doctors?

I guess we'll have to see the results of the investigation, but Dr. Henry suggested it may be a case of leftover doses being available at the end of the day.

These vaccines are stored frozen (-75°C for the Pfizer vaccine, -20°C for the Moderna vaccine) and are then refrigerated at +5°C at the administration site. As these doses cannot be re-frozen and have a very limited shelf life at above freezing temperatures, the leftover doses would otherwise have to be thrown out if not used by the end of the day.

[MG1]

Like the hospital in Cali..........

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Jmac

I guess we'll have to see the results of the investigation, but Dr. Henry suggested it may be a case of leftover doses being available at the end of the day.

These vaccines are stored frozen (-75°C for the Pfizer vaccine, -20°C for the Moderna vaccine) and are then refrigerated at +5°C at the administration site. As these doses cannot be re-frozen and have a very limited shelf life at above freezing temperatures, the leftover doses would otherwise have to be thrown out if not used by the end of the day.

Can confirm this is the case. A few of the people on my wife's unit were vaccinated the other day, even though they are not a priority unit at the hospital. They literally had a nurse walk over and be like "hey do you have time to come get vaccinated? We have some extras we need to use."
It's because the doses are actually like 1.3 doses per vile in most cases. They just combine the leftovers to make more vaccines, which is great, because the more people they get through the better.
That said, some people are pieces of shit, including doctors, and hospital admin, and so forth, and have manipulated their way into jumping the queue, but it's not always the case here.

[whitev70r]

^ And sometimes, they have some extra doses from a clinic and as you know, it expires after x number of hours, so they ask if anyone in the vicinity would like one so as to not waste the vaccine.

I say, 'Let's not make mountains out of mole hills' until we know the deets.

[twitchyzero]

Lol Ontario's stay home order (gatherings are okay, you may also fly out to BC and chill at whistler)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...rder-1.5871090

[pastarocket]

Dr. Bonnie's Covid update:

536 new cases
7 deaths
74 people in ICU


More bad news. The South African strain of Covid is also in B.C. now besides the UK strain.

The province has identified its first case of the South African variant of the virus, Henry said, in a person not known to have travelled or to have connection with a traveller.

[Jmac]

It's been 4 weeks since the BC Recovery Benefit launched. I applied on day 1, received a confirmation e-mail 2 days later, and have not received the benefit or any communications since.

I called the phone number in the email for enquiries and it only gives you two options: Apply for the benefit via phone or submit requested documents.

I called the business support number figuring I would talk to an actual human, which I did, and she directed me to an e-mail address.

I e-mailed said address which replied with an automated response to call the first number I called for enquiries.

[6793026]

if you read the news, it took 5 questions and 4 ducks for Dix to finally admit it's the staff bringing COVID to the care homes.

1) i'm not surprised. COVID doesn't happen from thin air, has to come somewhere = staff bought it in
2) good on Dix for trying to dogde... it's your job.. and yeha it sucks to have to do what you do but hey that's why a) you get paid well b) you get a pension.

As per Vancouver sun:

Ninety-nine out of 114 residents (that's FUCKING 86.84% of residences got infected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) have been infected and 41 of those have died, including Bains’s grandmother. Seventy staff members also tested positive, but most have recovered.

It confirmed what the Little Mountain families had reported earlier in the week — the outbreak had claimed 41 lives among the 99 residents who were infected. Some 70 staff members were reported to be infected as well. (that means 41% of people died).

HOLY FFFFFFFFFF

How do you still go to work when you know this stat.
How do you even ask your staff to COME to work.....
if you do go to work, how much do you LOVE your job... respect to the staff and front line workers there.

[320icar]

If you don’t tell your staff to come to work, who is going to care for these elderly? Or do you just put out a fruit bowl And granola bars in the lobby And say lol good luck

[Hondaracer]

You literally do ANYTHING besides what you’re currently doing?

You pay people full wages to stay home, you pay family members to come in and assist with care, you pay people from the interior etc. To come in, isolate, and work there.

Like, we shut the world down because it’s virtually all elderly people who are the ones dieing and clogging up the hospital systems and it’s just a “yea I guess that is happening” type attitude? It’s fucking insane.

And Bonnie and Dicks finally say “maybe we might consider rapid testing at care homes?”

Lol like this shit is a fucking joke.

I ask this again, would this be a global pandemic if those 70+ year old statics were cut in half? If there were half the deaths or half the ICU cases, would it be anything?

[westopher]

If you were to cut care home deaths in half in Ontario, the stat of total deaths would go from 5000, to 3500. It’s a big drop, but it’s still not by any stretch ALL of it. It would still be a big deal.

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by Jmac

It's been 4 weeks since the BC Recovery Benefit launched. I applied on day 1, received a confirmation e-mail 2 days later, and have not received the benefit or any communications since.

I called the phone number in the email for enquiries and it only gives you two options: Apply for the benefit via phone or submit requested documents.

I called the business support number figuring I would talk to an actual human, which I did, and she directed me to an e-mail address.

I e-mailed said address which replied with an automated response to call the first number I call

EI processing is just as bad

went in to send a backdate for sickness benefit mid-november, told to come back and check status in a month

went in and told i'll get a call, nothing

went in again and told they'll call, nothing

went in again again and they tell me i might have to escalate this up to another 5 times just to get a response, oh okay and you guys give me like less than two weeks during xmas few years ago to pay taxes reassessed

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by Jmac

It's been 4 weeks since the BC Recovery Benefit launched. I applied on day 1, received a confirmation e-mail 2 days later, and have not received the benefit or any communications since.

I called the phone number in the email for enquiries and it only gives you two options: Apply for the benefit via phone or submit requested documents.

I called the business support number figuring I would talk to an actual human, which I did, and she directed me to an e-mail address.

I e-mailed said address which replied with an automated response to call the first number I called for enquiries.

Read a news article today that detailed people having the same issue, seems to be widespread.

There is a major backlog for those who were required to submit any documentation, the government was foolish for promising such a tight turnaround time.

[CRS]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Read a news article today that detailed people having the same issue, seems to be widespread.

There is a major backlog for those who were required to submit any documentation, the government was foolish for promising such a tight turnaround time.

I think with Jmac and others, even those that didn't get an email asking for documentation are still in limbo

[Bouncing Bettys]

Twitter

[whitev70r]

The BC Recovery benefit is just hugely inefficient. I mean, how many human wage hours are you putting into screening, follow up documents, etc. That's not only added cost to administrate the program, it results in huge delays. At the end, the total amount that 'cheater's' would qualify for may be less than the wages that BC gov't has to dole out.

So for those who poopoo'd on Trudeau's CERB delivery ... sure, there were 'waste' but on the other hand, it was quick and efficient.

[MG1]

I laugh every time, I hear the word, "voluntary." It suggests that people actually care about anything other than themselves. Decent people, yes, but they're a dying breed. I still believe, but it's getting harder and harder to believe in the human race.

As for the musical term........... Jeremiah Clarke's Trumpet Voluntary (Prince of Denmark's March) - one of my favourites.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1349899411598569473

In b4 Somone tries to claim Newsweek is some left wing/right wing/nazi backed organization

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by MG1

I laugh every time, I hear the word, "voluntary." It suggests that people actually care about anything other than themselves. Decent people, yes, but they're a dying breed. I still believe, but it's getting harder and harder to believe in the human race.

As for the musical term........... Jeremiah Clarke's Trumpet Voluntary (Prince of Denmark's March) - one of my favourites.

How can you not look out for #1 the way the govt. handles things? Lol

Like someone who sunk 200k into a restaurant and is about to go bankrupt is suppose to care that a 95 year old person got infected by a care aid who brought covid into a care home because of the insane lack of screening and testing the govt. refuses to acknowledge?

Peoples lives are ruined.

[MG1]

If the majority of people were responsible, we wouldn't have to rely on government intervention.


As for the government itself, it's only as good as the people we elect ............. from the pool of geniuses we get these days running for office.



This virus should never have gotten to this point. Thinking of the origin.......

[Hondaracer]

Terry Lake - CEO of the long term care association of BC was just on CKNW -

- there are 900,000 quick tests sitting in boxes in Bc the feds paid for being unused

- the federal panel responsible for testing now recommends rapid testing in care homes

- we will look back at this as locking down seniors to live and die In essentially isolation chambers while all the time it was never family members bringing covid into the homes but rather almost all the workers.

Like, this isn’t a call to the “sheeple” but kinda time to use your own brain and see the writing on the wall here..

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Terry Lake - CEO of the long term care association of BC was just on CKNW -

- there are 900,000 quick tests sitting in boxes in Bc the feds paid for being unused

- the federal panel responsible for testing now recommends rapid testing in care homes

- we will look back at this as locking down seniors to live and die In essentially isolation chambers while all the time it was never family members bringing covid into the homes but rather almost all the workers.

Like, this isn’t a call to the “sheeple” but kinda time to use your own brain and see the writing on the wall here..

Maybe I haven't had my coffee yet, but what you're trying to say is that the government wants all the boomers to die off......?

[JDMDreams]

You don't say? Cuz you gov ppl keep saying everything is essential. Must stay open. Now you're paying for it for dragging this on, more sick, more deaths. Wishing the vaccine will work isn't gonna fix this. Now that there's gonna supply shortage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pha...id19-1.5874530