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Old 03-16-2021, 12:28 PM   #9001
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So an updated list came out today for places that are eligible to get a shot such as food processing plants etc.

Can an employer make it mandatory to have the shot? If they work in such a "high risk" job where the province deems them more necessary and vulnerable than police/firemen should they not have it as a mandatory requirement to make sure the facility continues to run without problems?

No shot, no work?

I don't have any kids but for those here that do is it mandatory for them to have up to date shots before being allowed to enroll in elementary school?
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Old 03-16-2021, 01:03 PM   #9002
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The blame on Telus was ridiculous.

Telus was contracted for something like 100k calls a day from the government, they received 1.7 million calls in 4 hours and weren't staffed correctly for the volume.
People are so fucking stupid though. This always happens when any company, or government rollout a service the first day.

Why would you call the first day the triage? I can't think of a private or public rollout that is ever functional on its launch date, you'd think people would get that by 2021 ffs.
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I don't have any kids but for those here that do is it mandatory for them to have up to date shots before being allowed to enroll in elementary school?
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sry that's fucking ridiculous

this is not a camping or some leisurely activity reservation system crashing

it's people trying to get their 90 year old parents vaccinated which was already delayed for a month or longer, that they haven't seen for probably a year

every other health authority booked thousands, but VCH only managed 300ish over one day...good lord
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It’s also people who are not even somewhat eligible calling BECUZ IVE WAITED LONG ENOUGH.
The mouth breathers calling in to find a way to jump the queue would have crashed it still if it was prepared for 10x the volume.
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sry that's fucking ridiculous

this is not a camping or some leisurely activity reservation system crashing

it's people trying to get their 90 year old parents vaccinated which was already delayed for a month or longer, that they haven't seen for probably a year

every other health authority booked thousands, but VCH only managed 300ish over one day...good lord
You seem to be contrarian on all my posts, so whatever. If it's something personal, message me, we can deal with it.

Have you ever heard of the Affordable Care Act? A system setup for a country as vast and wealthy as the United States, a system first of its kind to offer insurance to folks who could never attain it previously, crashed the very same day as its launch.

You think a country a fraction of the size and GDP could do better? Have you not followed the reports of the massive influx of calls to book quarantine hotels the first day of its rollout? Same thing, hours long hold times.

It is simply not realistic to expect any system or call center to support that many interactions on launch date.

If you waited a damn year, you can wait a few fucking days.
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So an updated list came out today for places that are eligible to get a shot such as food processing plants etc.

Can an employer make it mandatory to have the shot? If they work in such a "high risk" job where the province deems them more necessary and vulnerable than police/firemen should they not have it as a mandatory requirement to make sure the facility continues to run without problems?

No shot, no work?

I don't have any kids but for those here that do is it mandatory for them to have up to date shots before being allowed to enroll in elementary school?
I highly doubt any employer will make the vaccine mandatory. It’s just opening a can of worms if you try to force that on the wrong person
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Yeah there’s no chance of that happening.
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Old 03-16-2021, 04:20 PM   #9010
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I highly doubt any employer will make the vaccine mandatory. It’s just opening a can of worms if you try to force that on the wrong person
Correct! Had my queation answered while listening to the radio on my drive home just now and how it would open up a can of worms especially if employers were to hire vaccinated people over non vaccinated.
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I highly doubt any employer will make the vaccine mandatory. It’s just opening a can of worms if you try to force that on the wrong person
Wife's employer made it mandatory already. HR gave an option to go on unpaid leave if you don't want to get vaccinated. Not a small company either, been around for over 60 years as a non-profit organization working with people/children with disabilities. Keep in mind, organizations like these already required their staff to be up-to-date on all the regular vaccinations prior to starting their role pre-pandemic.
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How long til the lawsuits happen? Theres no way that in our freedumb society that will last.
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Wife's employer made it mandatory already. HR gave an option to go on unpaid leave if you don't want to get vaccinated. Not a small company either, been around for over 60 years as a non-profit organization working with people/children with disabilities. Keep in mind, organizations like these already required their staff to be up-to-date on all the regular vaccinations prior to starting their role pre-pandemic.
In b4 Canadian human rights tribunal.

Honesty kind of a stupid move. You can put pressure on people but making it mandatory is a huge mis-step for any company imo.
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On the bright side, it weeds out all the anti-vaxxers from joining lol
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Well, if the safety of your clients (who are in a high risk group) is at stake ... I think it is understandable to require your staff to be vaccinated (eg. working in a care home). You discuss these things when you apply and when you sign the contract then you don't have to worry about that when the time comes.

If your office sells software then I don't see the need to insist that all your staff be vaccinated.

Sorry but individual rights sometimes take a back seat to the rights and well being of the society or the demographic that you are serving or catering to. If you don't understand this simple concept, it means that you are thinking like a child or an adolescent.

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I get that, but if it wasn’t written into your contract prior to getting hired any wacko will have a legitimate claim against the company
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Don't make it mandatory. Just increase the friction for those without, and incentivize the ones that do.

Weekly check-ins for those that haven't been vaccinated? Daily even? Make life just stupid to the extent of the law.
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dose everyone working at the hospital need to get it? seems like a scenario where it makes sense...i guess they could also say if you don't get it you have to wear a nuclear suit

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Gotta love Vancouver. Also apparently medical exemption is no longer valid?

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Gotta love Vancouver. Also apparently medical exemption is no longer valid?

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that video should be part of police training and remaining calm, attempting to explain/de-escalate, and when necessary make a decent arrest.

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