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CharlesInCharge 04-20-2021 06:12 PM

You live in Canada... Canadian doctors, like the one in the video, are threatened by government if they speak out on their own, let alone host this stuff on YouTube.

The Producer 04-20-2021 06:19 PM

but they aren't scared to post it on an ultra right wing conspiracy driven video site?

your logic is flawed.

guys like you want everybody to question everything. I have no desire to do that. My life was fucking awesome before this, and it will be again after this. We just need to get through it ASAP. The way to do that is and always has been mass vaccination.

SkinnyPupp 04-20-2021 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9024474)
So far, Hong Kong has not paid a single dime from that indemnity fund to the victims of vaccine death since authorities have steadfastedly refused to acknowledge the vaccines played a role in causing those deaths. I don't remember the exact count now, but I think something like 13 deaths out of 15 are from China's Sinovac vaccine? To save Communist China's face, the HKSAR gov would never officially recognize the deaths as being caused by the vaccine.

Trudeau has said that in Dec 2020 the federal gov would launch a Canada-wide vaccine indemnity fund to provide no-fault support to those who are affected by serious injuries as a result of taking a COVID vaccine, but as far as I can remember, no additional detail has been provided as of March on the issue.

Has any death been linked to any vaccine anywhere in the world? Out of like 300 million doses so far?

CharlesInCharge 04-20-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9024491)
but they aren't scared to post it on an ultra right wing conspiracy driven video site?

your logic is flawed.

guys like you want everybody to question everything. I have no desire to do that. My life was fucking awesome before this, and it will be again after this. We just need to get through it ASAP. The way to do that is and always has been mass vaccination.

The only other video of hers Ive seen is exposing the government for threatening to jail a Surrey dad that wants to speak out against the courts pumping hormones into his child.

Interview with Robert Hoogland Who is Fighting Canadian Government Sanctioned Trans Child Mutilation
youtube.com/watch?v=sBMP9A2tTt8


If shes 'right wing' or just because a government shill like Alex Jones raved about millions of fema coffins some years back doesnt mean those coffins werent really planned this 'great rest'.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mill...iw=912&bih=717

The Producer 04-20-2021 06:42 PM

i'm not going to be your foil tonight so you can go off on your rants.

I'm going to go back to hammering pharmacy sites to try to get an AZ shot so I don't waste a spot in the Pfizer/Moderna line for somebody that needs it more.

Keep posting tho - i think your really changing some minds here :drunk:

sonick 04-20-2021 06:44 PM

English Bay today

https://i.imgur.com/U38TlTX.jpg

SkinnyPupp 04-20-2021 06:44 PM

That's enough CiC for this thread forever

Obsideon 04-20-2021 06:47 PM

I already know of a couple people heading out on party yacht's today ... :okay:

Gumby 04-20-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9024497)
That's enough CiC for this thread forever

People who take the time to respond to CiC must be really bored :lol

westopher 04-20-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsideon (Post 9024498)
I already know of a couple people heading out on party yacht's today ... :okay:

Tell them to jump over the railing.

320icar 04-20-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9024496)

Inb4 westopher was at the beach today rekindling an old flame :p

westopher 04-20-2021 07:17 PM

Lol still haven’t done it.

Hondaracer 04-20-2021 07:57 PM

Don’t leave your health authority but 4/20 celebrations are aighttttt

SkinnyPupp 04-20-2021 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9024496)

It's OK cannabis coats your lungs preventing the virus from getting in

EvoFire 04-20-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9024497)
That's enough CiC for this thread forever

Three pages of worthless garbage. It's not even a tiny bit constructive.

Bouncing Bettys 04-20-2021 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9024521)
Three pages of worthless garbage. It's not even a tiny bit constructive.

He posts more about building a Hadron Collider in a van parked in an alleyway and I'm here for it.

Traum 04-20-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9024492)
Has any death been linked to any vaccine anywhere in the world? Out of like 300 million doses so far?

Do you pay attention to the news? or do you just selectively filter them out?

There have been a small number of blood clotting deaths after the person received AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. And then there are the Sinovac ones in Hong Kong. The HKSAR gov has certainly been refusing to acknowledge the post-vaccine deaths were linked to Sinovac. But if you were a 65+ years old person with chronic illnesses, are you going to take a Sinovac jab?

At the end of the day, it really just comes down to that.

SkinnyPupp 04-20-2021 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9024527)
Do you pay attention to the news? or do you just selectively filter them out?

There have been a small number of blood clotting deaths after the person received AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. And then there are the Sinovac ones in Hong Kong. The HKSAR gov has certainly been refusing to acknowledge the post-vaccine deaths were linked to Sinovac. But if you were a 65+ years old person with chronic illnesses, are you going to take a Sinovac jab?

At the end of the day, it really just comes down to that.

There have been deaths after vaccinations yes, but nothing directly correlated AFAIK. If they have please share the link...

And I mean anywhere in the world, not just HK

An overweight diabetic with heart disease dying of a heart attack after getting the vaccine does not necessarily mean it was a vaccine death.

Traum 04-21-2021 01:02 AM

Do you associate the blood clotting deaths after vaccination with AZ or JJ to be something directly correlated with the vaccine? The risks are extremely small, but parts of the world are making that association strong enough to warrant banning the vaccine or restricting its use to certain lower risk age groups.

Sinovac vaccination among the 60+ yrs old group in the world is rare, mostly because the damn vaccine has a recommendation usage age of 18 - 59. The Hong Kong people who died after the Sinovac vaccination are mostly 60+ yr olds, and tend to have pre-existing health conditions. Do you associate the death with the vaccine? or do you associate it to the pre-existing health conditions?

SkinnyPupp 04-21-2021 01:39 AM

All I want is some official correlation of a death being caused by any vaccine. Not someone who died after a vaccine, but a known case of "this person died because of the vaccine and they would have lived if they had not taken it".

I'm not saying it's impossible or I won't believe you if you show me... I just want to see it. Because AFAIK (and I don't know everything) it hasn't happened yet.

HK lists in great detail everyone who gets sick enough to go to a hospital, even if they have a headache or something. The reports look like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzdnGKQUYAMX-gA.jpg

and when someone dies after a vaccine, they put out the information in great detail, including age and sex, and any existing ailments they had.. Including BioNTech btw, not just Sinovac. Without exception, everyone has had diabetes and hypertension. In some cases they had other issues like high cholesterol. Almost all of them were smokers. Also a couple pregnant women have had miscarriages, and they started telling pregnant women not go get them yet, despite other countries allowing it. It's most likely that the miscarriages are coincidental, but they are being extra cautious.

There's plenty to be mad about with the HK govt, to say the least. But when it comes to covid, they are handling it strictly and transparently, and have been effective at keeping the damage very low. 0 local cases today btw.

Compare this to the shit show going on in Canada, and I don't see how you can be mad. You're looking for something that isn't there.

BTW they also release detailed info on how many people get vaccinated each day. Here's yesterday:

Sinovac: 4,622 received 1st dose. Total 385,181
8,550 received 2nd dose. Total 241,908

BioNTech: 12,618 received 1st dose. Total 373,498
238 received 2nd dose. Total 149,068

1st dose: 758,679
Fully vaccinated: 390,976

3100 people booked for Sinovac that day, 14,000 booked for BioNTech

4-5X as many people are getting BioNTech now. Eventually they'll run out of Sinovac, and probably will stop using it. They were going to introduce AZ, but stopped. They tried to get J&J but there's not enough being made yet for other countries.

sonick 04-21-2021 06:10 AM

I may be wrong here but from my understanding most of these clots linked to vaccines have not resulted in death? Traum is making it sound like every reported clot was a death as a result of that clot.

There may be a small proportion of the already small proportion of clot discoveries, that actually resulted in death. I mean people develop clots (DVT) just by sitting on a plane too long.

E.g.
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-d...nada-1.5391531

bcedhk 04-21-2021 08:31 AM

What happens if you double book the pre-registration page? Do I get pushed to the back of the line?

I pre-registered on the first day (April 7) when the website went live. But my partner thought she was doing me a favour and pre-registered for me again yesterday... Now I have two text message with two different codes :QQ:

CRS 04-21-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bcedhk (Post 9024555)
What happens if you double book the pre-registration page? Do I get pushed to the back of the line?

I pre-registered on the first day (April 7) when the website went live. But my partner thought she was doing me a favour and pre-registered for me again yesterday... Now I have two text message with two different codes :QQ:

Your codes won't work to book online when you're up to take the vaccine.

You'll have to call in to have them register for you.

At least this was the case and my experience with family members that double booked.

quasi 04-21-2021 09:42 AM

My brother in law tipped me off to a small Pharmasave near us that had vaccines.

No appointment took me 20 minutes, that includes driving there and back and filling out the paper work, nobody in line.

Hondaracer 04-21-2021 09:45 AM

You’ve gotta think with all these walk up places having vaccines that a bunch are getting wasted.

I have noticed however that there are numerous large vaccination clinics popping up including the old Fortius building (RIP :( ) as well as a big make shift one being setup at BCIT so I’m assuming they are anticipating a big ramp up


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