coronavirus discussion

[GS8]

YouTube

[320icar]

Originally Posted by GS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJE...nel=joeybtoonz

Subscribed to him a few weeks ago. He speaks to my soul for the hatred of social media

[SkinnyPupp]

That video destroys any browser I play it on, Edge and Chrome both. Just complete lockup

[quasi]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Can those of you who got in so quickly like to share which pharmacy? And or location that has it? #RSvaccinehunter

Or just put your name down at them all ... Shoppers, LD, Rexall, Save-On, etc.

And am I correct to assume that it is the AZ?

A small Pharmasave in Langley the size of my kitchen that I didn't know existed on 200th & 65th next to the Staples, correct AZ

[GGnoRE]

India reporting 250k cases per day, hospitals so overrun that they are running out of oxygen tanks, 2 patients sharing 1 bed, variant rampaging etc...

From Vancouver Sun: "According to latest data from the B.C. Centre for Disease Control, 10 flights arrived in Vancouver from Delhi between April 6 and April 16 with infected people on board — and in some cases with several infected people on board." https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...rs-restriction

Quarantine for international travel? what quarantine? According to CBC: "As Ontario struggles to control a brutal third wave of COVID-19, health officials say more than 200 international travellers arriving in the province have refused to stay in a quarantine hotel. The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) told CTV News Toronto that as of April 15 they are aware of at least 211 tickets that have been issued to travellers since the hotel quarantine program came into effect in February."
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/more-than...tels-1.5396802

but Trudeau says yesterday: "We have some of the strongest measures in the world in terms of borders. We have seen there are direct flights from many countries of concern but there are also indirect flights as well and making sure we have a system to address all flights is something we did months ago." https://globalnews.ca/news/7778952/o...ts-from-india/

We are more than a year into the pandemic. There's no excuse for this. We've seen how countries like Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore got covid under control and prevented variants from infiltrating. But nah, we'd rather stick with singling out small businesses and restaurants.

As of yesterday, BC reporting 39 cases of the B 1.617 COVID-19 variant, known as a double mutation, originating from India.

[eclipseman]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Can those of you who got in so quickly like to share which pharmacy? And or location that has it? #RSvaccinehunter

Or just put your name down at them all ... Shoppers, LD, Rexall, Save-On, etc.

And am I correct to assume that it is the AZ?

Pacific prescriptions and supplies near Coquitlam Centre. Pharmacist told me they were fully booked in three hours after the 40+ update.

I also tried booking through Save-on, Pharmasave and Shoppers, but never received a call back at any of those places.

From what I understand, AZ is the only vaccine supplied through pharmacies currently.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by GGnoRE

India reporting 250k cases per day, hospitals so overrun that they are running out of oxygen tanks, 2 patients sharing 1 bed, variant rampaging etc...

From Vancouver Sun: "According to latest data from the B.C. Centre for Disease Control, 10 flights arrived in Vancouver from Delhi between April 6 and April 16 with infected people on board — and in some cases with several infected people on board." https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...rs-restriction

Quarantine for international travel? what quarantine? According to CBC: "As Ontario struggles to control a brutal third wave of COVID-19, health officials say more than 200 international travellers arriving in the province have refused to stay in a quarantine hotel. The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) told CTV News Toronto that as of April 15 they are aware of at least 211 tickets that have been issued to travellers since the hotel quarantine program came into effect in February."
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/more-than...tels-1.5396802

but Trudeau says yesterday: "We have some of the strongest measures in the world in terms of borders. We have seen there are direct flights from many countries of concern but there are also indirect flights as well and making sure we have a system to address all flights is something we did months ago." https://globalnews.ca/news/7778952/o...ts-from-india/

We are more than a year into the pandemic. There's no excuse for this. We've seen how countries like Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore got covid under control and prevented variants from infiltrating. But nah, we'd rather stick with singling out small businesses and restaurants.

As of yesterday, BC reporting 39 cases of the B 1.617 COVID-19 variant, known as a double mutation, originating from India.

That is some bullshit. Strongest measures in the world? LOL

BTW India is one of the 3 countries banned here for 2 weeks. The others being Pakistan and Philippines.

Are you guys writing to your MPs about this btw? Or is there no point

[Hondaracer]

Mutated variants already in Canada and Turd “might have to consider” stopping flights from India..

[westopher]

Flights coming in wouldn’t matter even if they actually fucking enforced a proper quarantine. You need to come here? Fine. 2 fucking weeks quarantine or you go to jail. That’s it. No “please quarantine, maybe if you can. So sorry about your rights to travel the world and infect your community”
Too many stupid fucks “BuT mA ConSTiUtIonAl RiTes!”
We need to face the facts that
A) people are fucking idiots
B) Canadians are fucking idiots
And treat them as such.

[Hondaracer]

Well, either way that is a federal jurisdiction and they could not be dropping the ball harder.

Don’t go to kamloops but please come from India!

[The Producer]

can't really blame a canadian passport holder in india for looking around and thinking it's time to get the fuck out of dodge

can absolutely blame our government for not quarantining that person. either go to this nice hotel or go to this army base field barrack. we don't care which one but you aren't leaving our sight and you sure as hell aren't going home.

this thing is over in 10 weeks and we're spiking the ball on the one yard line like idiots. self sabotage - why?

speaking of ball drops, I feel like I should have closed the shop on monday on gone looking for a vaccine. I have zero confidence that I'm going to hear back from any pharmacy on the north shore. I was waitlisted within 5 minutes of the announcement.

[BlackV62K2]

Turdeau doesn't want to offend other countries by banning incoming flights. Meanwhile let's just continue to fuck your own people. BC also be like, don't travel anywhere but has a red carpet out for people arriving from international flights.

[JDMDreams]

Watch we're gonna be fucked by the Indian variant and 2 weeks later they will be hurr Durr we don't have the power to close the borders.

[GGnoRE]

Let me give another reason why restricting travel ("force" quarantine for CA citizens, ban for non-citizens) between India and Canada is such a no-brainer.

Surrey: Highest Indian population in BC. Responsible for highest Covid infection rate in BC. http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/data
Brampton: Highest Indian population in ON. Responsible for highest Covid infection rate in ON (Currently has 22% Covid positivity test rate). https://www.publichealthontario.ca/e...-tool?tab=maps

Of course, there is a socio-economic factor that people from these cities are working in essential jobs in factories, plants etc. Combine that with the culture of multi-generations living in one household, it only takes 1 person to contract Covid to spread it to all their family members who will go on to cause an outbreak in the community. When people are travelling from India (source of variant), who are they likely to interact with once they come into BC or ON? Its like adding fuel to the fire.

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by The Producer

can't really blame a canadian passport holder in india for looking around and thinking it's time to get the fuck out of dodge

Maybe they should've came back "home" last year when the Canadian government gave everyone a heads up to return home if you're a Canadian that's currently abroad

[The Producer]

of course - but your form of whataboutism doesn't solve the immediate problem

every canadian passport holder has the right to be repatriated. it's one of our most basic rights. it's never going to change, so why even ponder it?

the federal government has had 14 months to figure out how to prevent the incoming infected from passing it in their communities. That's the failure. The great Australia scenario we hear about incessantly would have worked here too.

[westopher]

We should keep in mind the amount of immigration Canada is based on. I sure as hell would be visiting my dying relative if it came to that, and there are a lot of people who’s families they need to help are all in other places in the world. They should be able to help their families if necessary. I have more of an issue with the people coming back from their vacation homes in Florida than I do anyone that would be in situation.
All of it would be moot if a quarantine was enforced.
Do what you want, go where you want, but follow the rules when you get here to keep everyone in this country safe, or you’ll be quarantining in a cell at the border.

[Hondaracer]

If you’re landing in an airport from anywhere but a domestic location it should be a militarized system that basically holds your hand until you’re in the designated quarantine room. It should also have probably just stayed at that 2 week time frame snd have multiple tests over the course of that until you are discharged

But turd is obviously concerned with hurt feelings and would rather drag this out for as long as humanly possible..

[JDMDreams]

^ you mean like how Taiwan and Australia and solved their pandemic and economic problems? But human rights > pandemic and economy.

[mikemhg]

The UK has banned/restricted flights from India, pretty sure there's a larger expatriated community in the UK, than that of Canada

If the UK can do it, why can't we?

I think it's absurd that one can travel to a country with a massive influx of COVID cases, and simply fly back to Canada, without any restrictions. Why aren't we handling inbound flights from places with massive outbreaks differently? Why don't we have officials at the airport to physically have the person escorted to a quarantine site?

I feel like there's so much more we could be doing here. Folks who have not left the country, stayed here the entire time, are now restricted from basic travel within the province?

Get the fuck out of here.

[The Producer]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If you’re landing in an airport from anywhere but a domestic location it should be a militarized system that basically holds your hand until you’re in the designated quarantine room. It should also have probably just stayed at that 2 week time frame snd have multiple tests over the course of that until you are discharged

But turd is obviously concerned with hurt feelings and would rather drag this out for as long as humanly possible..

so you don't want flights from hotspots banned (and canadians prevented from coming home), you want to make sure quarantine is handled correctly for ALL incoming international flights

we're on the same page i think

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Why don't we have officials at the airport to physically have the person escorted to a quarantine site?

this is the way

[westopher]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

The UK has banned/restricted flights from India, pretty sure there's a larger expatriated community in the UK, than that of Canada

If the UK can do it, why can't we?

I think it's absurd that one can travel to a country with a massive influx of COVID cases, and simply fly back to Canada, without any restrictions. Why aren't we handling inbound flights from places with massive outbreaks differently? Why don't we have officials at the airport to physically have the person escorted to a quarantine site?

I feel like there's so much more we could be doing here. Folks who have not left the country, stayed here the entire time, are now restricted from basic travel within the province?

Get the fuck out of here.

Just because UK did it doesn’t make it right though. In fact, they’ve handled the pandemic worse than just about any developed nation on the planet.
We are on the same page about the quarantine, but I think to completely ban flights is callous and doesn’t address the issue that any flight is a threat, from anywhere in the world, and has been for over a year now. They should all be treated as such. Honestly even domestic flights should be treated as such, but the feds are too scared of letting the airlines fold.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by westopher

Just because UK did it doesn’t make it right though. In fact, they’ve handled the pandemic worse than just about any developed nation on the planet.
We are on the same page about the quarantine, but I think to completely ban flights is callous and doesn’t address the issue that any flight is a threat, from anywhere in the world, and has been for over a year now. They should all be treated as such. Honestly even domestic flights should be treated as such, but the feds are too scared of letting the airlines fold.

I totally agree with you, I would say it's unfair to ban all flights entirely, for sure. But there is easily a better method in terms of escorting and controlling the quarantine for those who are entering the country, especially from nations with high COVID incidences.

One can fly somewhere internationally, return, and our Federal government won't even bother to make sure you quarantine for any timeframe. Yet now we're supposed to fear being pulled over on the highway because we want to go for a camping trip in this beautiful weather somewhere on the island or the interior?

To put the onus on restaurants, and now even the basic mobility of BC residents is simply an insult.

It just seems to perpetuate a class divide to folks. It seems as though we have a dual system in place here.

[westopher]

Absolutely. Especially with the exceptions made for people like the CEO of costco to come into the country for “essential work”
The only people who should be exempt are healthcare workers, and transport operators, and even then they should be tested. Although it’s kind of moot now. We are already fucked and we are our own biggest problem now.

[The Producer]

my biggest problem right now - today, is that I'm eligible for an AZ vaccine and I can't find one now. today. not next week, or next month. not in surrey, or chilliwack either. Close to home (so that I don't have to non essential travel)

Why are we relying on (the good work) of volunteer twitter feeds to tell us who has stock right now? Every pharmacy should have been tied into a central system w every dose accounted for. I should be able to see that Pharmacy X has 400 doses, is full staffed and will run until they've expended the stock. So much talking, so little action as usual. 14 months burned - couldn't build a website?

absolutely maddening