Quebec women 54 years old dies from blood clots developed after taking Astra Zeneca.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7812813/q...april-27-2021/

I’ve decided to do a complete 180° and change my view. I’ve been a frontline worker this entire time and I’m fucking sick of it. Stick anything in my arm and let’s get this over with.

Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ. I can’t help but take it personal as someone who has been seeing 6k people a day 5x a week and don’t have the luxury to stay at home.

Fuck you. Take the risk and do your fucking part

People gonna wait and get AZ anyways lol

Once wife and I get that first shot this isolation going out the window. My parents are vaccinated, most of my friends (ironically who are “less essential” than I) are vaccinated

Not gonna give af anymore frankly. Obviously going to still follow guidelines with strangers snd that jazz but I’m gonna be givin er.

I agree. My son was born last may. Almost all my family and most my friends haven’t even seen him. His 1st birthday is this Saturday, and guess what, SAME SHIT. He’s going to be the only child I have and no one even got a chance to see him as a baby. Fucked up.

Welcome to my rage garage. Take a seat and I’ll pour you a fuckin beer.

Why do you take it personally if they are truly stay at home 40 yr olds? If they are abiding by restrictions/social distancing they realistically face extremely minimal risk of contracting the virus and are not the problem.

It's people who are eligible for AZ but don't abide by restrictions you should be angry at.

Personally, regarding AZ - I don't blame anyone for waiting until a Pfizer/Moderna shot. There are countries like Denmark and Australia who have halted AZ shots altogether for a reason. My dad's taken it since he still works but since my mom is a stay at home mother who doesn't leave the house she's hesitant. For myself, I'm young and I WFH - I abide by all restrictions and I don't live with them. When the time comes I'll probably go with whatever shot's available but I don't blame anyone for preferring Pfizer/Modern.

Yes, I know people are quick to point out that birth control have higher chances of blood clots but these people fail to mention AZ is linked to a much more lethal form of blood clots (they develop in the brain).

I think some people are waiting to see how the supply of Pfizer/Moderna is going to change in the next two months since America's supplies are going to be available.

Let's be real here - if Canada's covid numbers were similar to Australia they would have halted AZ shots a long time ago.

1 death/200k from the pill
3 deaths/200k from the patch
25 deaths/200k related directly to pregnancy
Astra Zeneca vaccine deaths
32 deaths/8million
.8 deaths/200k

So no ones really failing to mention anything.

To note on your earlier point though, I don't think anyone, 320icar or me is directing the issue with people like you who are literally isolating. The issue we have is the people we see, and interact with on a daily basis in our jobs spouting shit about how they won't get the shot when we clearly see their behaviour right in front of us.

Well, he wrote "Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ" so I was mostly replying under that context.

https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/su...stated-3670229

i went to highschool with this guy (just, 5 years older than me)

if you're eligible, go get a shot. this could be any one of us. it's not some random 4 in a million statistic - it's a guy who grew up down the street from me. he literally missed the option to be vaccinated by 2-3? weeks. he might still be alive

if you end up in a hospital (or worse) a month from now, you'll sure wish that you hadn't waited for the "better vaccine" because of some stuff you read on the internet

this isn't an attack - i just think for some people, even after a year of this, it just isn't real enough.

So many =/= all, and to be quite honest, I'm seeing lots of people I know that "stay home" for work, posting stories or photos at restaurants, or doing whatever with people they don't live with. To be honest, I get it, and I don't really give a fuck about that as long as you aren't being an idiot, but once you do those things, then literally get handed a key to walk through the door that ends this, and say, nah I want a better key, that's a genuine slap in the face to everyone around you thats waiting.
There is a clear and present danger with Covid and people are using a "what if I get hit by lightning" argument to drag it out.

I don't think anyone would argue that Pfizer/Moderna aren't superior to AZ. The risks associated with AZ are unquestionably higher, given what we know. If given an immediate choice, I think everyone would take Pfizer or Moderna.

However, Moderna continues to have supply chain issues, so there's definitely no guarantee that younger people will have access to it for many months. I'm betting that it will be J&J that most younger people will be getting, which has an efficacy rate on par with AZ. The risk of getting a variant of COVID is pretty high right now, particularly in Fraser Health, unless you don't go out at all.

We have kids in the school system and the Tri-Cities is a hot spot with exposure notices pretty much on the daily, so that's how I rationalized the decision to take AZ. My parents have been vaxxed, so have my in-laws. We wish to actually spend time with them this summer, rather than to rely on a government vaccine schedule which is highly likely to be delayed given supply chain issues, so that was another motivating factor for us.

Take it easy and don't let it get to you.

The way I look at it is, some people may choose to refuse to get the AZ vaccine for whatever reason. But you know what? Even though they are not getting that AZ vaccine, those very same AZ vaccines aren't just sitting idle at the vaccination centers or pharmacies. There are still huge line ups of people waiting up to 4 - 5 hours to get themselves vaccinated. In that sense, we are still getting people vaccinated as quickly as the system allows. There is no wastage. It's just different people getting protected first, at least at this point. And given the vaccine supplies, it is probably going to stay that way for at least another 2 months with people getting their 1st dose. And then if we've exhausted everyone who is willing to get their first AZ vaccine, we can start processing people for their 2nd jabs.

So to me, as long as we are still vaccinating people as quickly as we can, nothing is being wasted, the vaccines are protecting more and more people, and I'm happy to see that.

I think its the situation as a whole. Hospitals are severely short staffed. Doctors, Nurses, clerks, ect. are overworked and burnt out to the point where they are leaving the covid wards for other departments in the hospitals which makes even more hectic for the remaining workers. All because people cant even follow simple guidelines. And the government cant do their jobs properly and in the end it all falls on the shoulders of the people that work in the hospitals. They get the shit end of the stick any way you slice it and now people are avoiding certain vaccines all together is just the cherry on top of the cake for them.

I told my wife "what would happen if you guys just decided to strike, you guys said fuck it, if people dont wanna take the necessary steps to save their own lives, why should you care about theirs." She obviously didnt say anything cause shes too nice. But if it was me i would of fucked off a long time ago. Obviously they wouldnt do that cause they arent dickheads like me but when is enough enough?

Anyways i got the AZ vaccine today at Coquitlam Porier Center. Waited almost 4 hours for it. Feels like my tiny wife punched me in the shoulder as hard as she could.

This ... calm rational logic. You cannot vaccinate faster than the supply - doesn't matter ... Covidiots or good abiding citizens. Vaccines are ending up in arms. And anecdotes even here are people waiting 4 hrs plus in line for it and pharmacies running out. Only real solution is, if Canada had more vaccine supply, is to open 24/7.

Not trying to sound crass but a good chunk of hospital admissions are probably due to people not taking care of their own health and as a result others having to care for them.

It’s one thing in a place like India etc. Where id completely understand walking out and never coming back. However here, in the western world in a relatively comfortable part of it, it’s a bit much to think nurses would take that stance. Don’t they have their own kind of code of conduct or decree when you become a nurse that helping others is your main priority above all else or somthing?

It’s obviously very hard for them, but it’s their job. As are many other essential people. If anything this pandemic has shown that nurses and doctors are worth their weight in gold and deserve anything coming to them in terms of pay raises etc

They have a finite amount of resources. Yes they sign up to help people.
They don’t sign up for a medical system that involves working 70hr weeks, being short staffed, and short on beds.
They don’t sign up for a system that’s strained to the point of postponing people’s cancer treatments, or dealing with dying people not being able to see their loved ones one last time.
Things aren’t normal for them right now, and it’s never been like this, even though obviously Canada hasn’t seen near what some places in the world have.

Phizer drop in today at the same place in Coquitlam they did the AZ drop in yesterday. 200 in line, they said they're taking the first 500.

i got AZ at the coquitlam drop in yesterday

feel perfectly fine. MAAYBE a little more yawns today and MAYBE SLIGHTLY foggy vision but otherwise perfectly fine.

those were MAJOR maybe's.

Ok I'm still totally confused here.

Can 30+ now get the vaccine? How can I do so without waiting in a lineup for hours? I thought we could schedule our vaccination?

30+ can get in line.

If you don’t want to, register on the govt site and you’ll just wait until your age bracket starts to get scheduled.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...-in-canada-to/



no wonder ontario has crazy high numbers, household is positive, keeps going to work. Daughter can't breath, won't take her to the hospital.

If you registered you can just wait until they contact you which might take awhile but you can schedule what day and time to show up to avoid lineups. If you want a shot right now you'll be waiting in lines unless you luck out.

Is the ability to line up for the vaccine if you're 30+ just for hotspot areas or across all of BC?

This is fucking ridiculous I have to be asking these questions in a car forum and not reading an official resource from our health authority.

Edit: I did just go to BC's COVID authority page to check that it wasn't me who was wrong, it's still showing 40+ to line up to get the AZ vaccine, and was last updated April 23rd :rukidding: