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06-15-2021, 11:03 AM
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It’s definitely the employers business as they are held directly accountable for workplace transmission.
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06-15-2021, 11:07 AM
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The Chinese TCM explanation for this is -- your body has flushed out all the toxins that was previously stored / trapped in you. Some people pay thousands of dollars to get a treatment result like this, and you got it for free!
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Originally Posted by mikemhg I didn't even want to post about this, because I totally jinxed myself.
My vaccine on that Monday elicited fucked up diarrhea for a whole week from the Tuesday - Sunday. Ended up clearing up by Sunday night.
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06-15-2021, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher It’s definitely the employers business as they are held directly accountable for workplace transmission. | Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong perspective, but I honestly see no issues if my employer asked me if I was vaccinated or not. I don't see any negative downside besides the obvious "muh freeedums!!!11" excuse?
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06-15-2021, 11:19 AM
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Yea I'm wondering about the legality of the vaccines at the work place, especially with the no face mask that the gov says. I've already heard a guy say I don't have to wear a mask cuz I've had 2 shots
I heard UK is delaying reopening cuz shits going bad again.
Yea sure you have 2 shots, but I haven't and what about the Karen next to you that didn't get any shot? Can they sue you for infecting them? That's like having aids but not letting people know |
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06-15-2021, 11:42 AM
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It's none of anyone's business when I super charge/ turbo charge or what kind of oil I put in my ride.
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06-15-2021, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher It’s definitely the employers business as they are held directly accountable for workplace transmission. | Yeah I don't see how this would be different from any other workplace safety requirement. In plenty of industries you already have to provide proof that you've taken the required training and safety courses so you're less likely to hurt or kill yourself and others.
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06-15-2021, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper ………….or what kind of oil I put in my ride. | Royal Purple, ftw! Full synthetic and that colour. Kool Aid.
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06-15-2021, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper It's none of anyone's business when I super charge/ turbo charge or what kind of oil I put in my ride. | It is if you spill it on the road causing accidents and deaths
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06-15-2021, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by underscore Yeah I don't see how this would be different from any other workplace safety requirement. In plenty of industries you already have to provide proof that you've taken the required training and safety courses so you're less likely to hurt or kill yourself and others. | Isn’t it mandatory for plenty of fields like airlines? Getting mandatory vaccines etc. Don’t see why this should be any different
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06-15-2021, 12:27 PM
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i'm trying decided if i go AZ on my 2nd shot or not....i can book no but not sure what to do, i keep hearing stay with AZ. anyone with any real valid input?
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06-15-2021, 12:36 PM
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^ did you have any symptoms after getting it? No one can answer that for you besides your body.
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06-15-2021, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 320icar It is if you spill it on the road causing accidents and deaths | Well, if I deliberately ejaculate into someone's soup, then sure, it's my fault.
This goes for any type of medical condition btw. There's no reason to disclose your own personal medical records to your employer.
I'd be more worried about shingles than corona, even then I wouldn't care if the person next to me has shingles.
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06-15-2021, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blkgsr i'm trying decided if i go AZ on my 2nd shot or not....i can book no but not sure what to do, i keep hearing stay with AZ. anyone with any real valid input? | This article convinced me to go for Pfizer for my second shot (AZ was my first) 2021-06-04 BC ? COVID-19 in British Columbia
Also they have lower stock of AZ, and so Pfizer is likely going to be more readily available.
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06-15-2021, 01:52 PM
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Not sure about private workplaces, but federal government unions was a complete non-starter to even ask if each person has the vaccine or not, they’re not going to ask end of discussion.
So going back into the office at some point you have no idea who has it or not… I know of 2 people I work with who refuse to get it but officially I don’t know that.
It’s going to be interesting, raises all sorts of issues of why you should go into meeting rooms or work in close quarters with people who have the potential risk to die from infection, etc.
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06-15-2021, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blkgsr i'm trying decided if i go AZ on my 2nd shot or not....i can book no but not sure what to do, i keep hearing stay with AZ. anyone with any real valid input? | I can get my 2nd AZ shot on Thursday if i wanted to and im really tempted to do so.
But im opting to get the Pfizer just cause of the effectiveness and it also protects me from additional variants. Hopefully i get a booking text by next week
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06-15-2021, 02:12 PM
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Imo any unionized place you're not gonna get anything out of the employees regarding their status
If I was with my old company where I respected ownership and was on friendly terms with them id be more than happy to tell them anything they wanted. But now working in a unionized environment where the employer basically went out of their way to not get us vaccines, and does a lot of borderline invasion of privacy shit i don't care to tell them anything.
The managers had this gross round about way of being like "heh heh I got my vaccine how about you?" Which was 100% mandated from above. I just kinda gave a vague answer then asked which vaccine he got, when he said AZ i kinda made a point to be like yea eh.. too bad for you lol
If public health numbers are accurate there shouldn't be a reason to have to ask whether someone is vaccinated or not because in theory your workplace should have herd immunity.
In the perfect scenario I'd have no problem disclosing whatever they wanted. But given how they approach things where I work, what's next, mandatory flu shots? Fuck that
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06-15-2021, 02:18 PM
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i think they at the very least they should know how many of its employees are vaccinated if kept anonymous
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06-15-2021, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer The managers had this gross round about way of being like "heh heh I got my vaccine how about you?" Which was 100% mandated from above. I just kinda gave a vague answer then asked which vaccine he got, when he said AZ i kinda made a point to be like yea eh.. too bad for you lol | You're such a dick |
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06-15-2021, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style Not sure about private workplaces, but federal government unions was a complete non-starter to even ask if each person has the vaccine or not, they’re not going to ask end of discussion.
So going back into the office at some point you have no idea who has it or not… I know of 2 people I work with who refuse to get it but officially I don’t know that.
It’s going to be interesting, raises all sorts of issues of why you should go into meeting rooms or work in close quarters with people who have the potential risk to die from infection, etc. | Private employer,
We had a company town hall last week, and our HR VP actually stated on record that they legally can't require vaccination for employees.
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06-15-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper This goes for any type of medical condition btw. There's no reason to disclose your own personal medical records to your employer. | If I'm a long haul semi truck driver spending 15 hours a day driving an 18wheeler down the highway every day should I kinda tell my boss if I have narcolepsy and that I have in the past passed out at the wheel and it's possible to do so again?
They are my medical records which may have a negative impact on my job... so nah I don't think I'll tell the boss and just see how things turn out.
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06-15-2021, 02:28 PM
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06-15-2021, 02:33 PM
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I think it goes both way. I fully support people’s free choice to NOT have the government force vaccines upon them. But I don’t want my right to safety be trumped by your right to freedoms, we both deserve respect.
This is where heard immunity is important. If a workplace has 80-90% vaccination rate, then does that last percent really matter? I don’t know, I’m not a scientist.
You have a right to smoke. But your right to smoke does not trump my right to not want to breathe in your second hand smoke.
You have a right to not want the vaccine. But I have a right to not be surrounded by people carrying a potentially deadly virus. Whether YOU care if YOU sit next to someone with ‘shingles’ is not MY problem when MY health might be at risk.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s a tough decision. How do you pleaser everyone?
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06-15-2021, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stewie If I'm a long haul semi truck driver spending 15 hours a day driving an 18wheeler down the highway every day should I kinda tell my boss if I have narcolepsy and that I have in the past passed out at the wheel and it's possible to do so again?
They are my medical records which may have a negative impact on my job... so nah I don't think I'll tell the boss and just see how things turn out. | Obviously when you have physical impairment, you shouldn't be operating or applying to any job that requires you to work with a machine.
But for other disease like cancer, flu, diabetes, covid, herpes, whatever. There is no reason for disclosing any of that to your employer.
Furthermore, I saw a new piece on someone driving home AFTER getting the covid shot and they passed out at the wheel and caused a huge accident. This is something similar to what you're saying. DO NOT DRIVE AFTER YOU GET YOUR SHOT.
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06-15-2021, 02:42 PM
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Public vaccination numbers only give part of the story.
I’m sure some sectors are 90% and some sectors are 50% based on demographics.
Put it this way, and this is all hypothetical. The numbers don’t relate to my work in any way. If I have 8 staff, 3 are unvaccinated. Am I going to put the two unvaccinated ones together in a small room where social distancing isn’t possible? That greatly increases my chances of having a workplace transmission, and can
A) put my staff at risk
B) cost the business money
C) get us temporarily shut down
How does someone’s right to not let me know if their vaccinated trump the risks it can cause my business, and employee health and wellness?
You don’t want to get vaccinated sure, it’s your body, but if your employed by me, it’s my business, so, what’s fair? I’m not talking about firing people cause they aren’t vaccinated. As long as you can do your job, and it has no bearing, that’s unreasonable. But to keep secrets that can affect others at your place of work because “it’s none of my business?” No fuckin way that’s a reasonable request.
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06-15-2021, 03:02 PM
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I just want to understand where some of you guys' worry come from?
You have always been exposed to people that have transmitted disease in pre-covid times, you just never know about it. Whether it is a common flu to hiv. What some of you are saying is that people are "disgusting".
Someone's right does not end where your fear begins.
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