coronavirus discussion

[Hondaracer]

Done with masks and gonna make a fuss if you’re gonna ask me to wear one in your business!!

[SSM_DC5]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Done with masks and gonna make a fuss if you’re gonna ask me to wear one in your business!!

Why make a fuss when you can just turn around and leave?

[Traum]

I'm still gonna wear a mask for the next little while because what else am I going to do with the inventory that I have accumulated over the past year? Might as well use them up somehow LOL~

[westopher]

Originally Posted by quasi

I'm not sure how true that is, my niece was in class in Saskatchewan but I guess that's still Canada so argument stands.

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Done with masks and gonna make a fuss if you’re gonna ask me to wear one in your business!!

Or you could make everyone’s lives easier including your own and just not do that lol.
Things worth fighting people over:
Insulting you or your family
Being rude to those around you
Putting others at risk
Being racist or sexist
Things not worth fighting over:
Being asked politely by a private business to wear a mask

[Hondaracer]

I’m joking lol

Goes over well on da net

[westopher]

Lol, you never know these days. People pick weird fuckin hills to die on.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by Traum

I'm still gonna wear a mask for the next little while because what else am I going to do with the inventory that I have accumulated over the past year? Might as well use them up somehow LOL~

Just hold onto them, chances are, we'll have a fall lockdown again / use them during flu season

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[MG1]

Casinos opening July 1st. Masks required. Even if they weren't required, I'd wear one.

Got emails about the openings last week from various casinos.

[punkwax]

Walmart/Costco? Mask for sure.

The local quiet veggie mart? No mask unless they’re packed for some reason.

[Gh0stRider]

dont care, open the fucking border

[winson604]

A year and a half in I've found the journey to wearing masks here in Canada fascinating. Being Chinese it's nothing new to me seeing people wear masks for years when they are sick. From the very start pre lockdown a lot of Asians were already wearing them by default. It was an adjustment but by no means weirded me out. For me wearing one it was new but didn't bug me. I joked with my white coworkers way before they were recommended and being mandatory that I'll be concerned when I start seeing white people wear it because at that point I knew that the whole world has finally taken this serious enough.

Fast forward now restrictions aside I'm probably going to keep the habit of wearing masks for a long time perhaps even forever. It doesn't mean I'm going to be wearing masks when indoors forever but in hind sight there are certain places where now it just seems funny thinking we didn't pre pandemic. For example wearing one when you're at the doctors absolutely to me makes sense and it's crazy to think we didn't before lol. I'm really curious what industries will just keep the policy of wearing masks for a long time. Cooks and servers? Makes sense to me now, would it be normal practice going forward? Pre COVID you already had certain companies who handle food already wear masks by default, not so much in a restaurant but some of those good production companies. We'll see!

[westopher]

Cooks and servers will definitely not continue to wear masks when the go ahead is given.
As you said, it makes sense to wear masks if you’re sick. If you’re sick, you shouldn’t be at work. If you’re not sick, you shouldn’t need to wear a mask when there isn’t a pandemic putting the entire world at risk.
The logic of wearing a mask as a server but not wearing a mask at a hockey game or concert doesn’t line up.

[MarkyMark]

I've been happy to be a part of the solution, and will continue to wear masks for businesses that want me to, but beyond that I'm ready to take this new vaccine out for a spin and let my immune system stretch its legs.

There's very few times of the year where I'm in what I consider to be a "crowded" place where it just seems gross to be around so many people so I think I'll live.

[Hakkaboy]

Originally Posted by westopher

Cooks and servers will definitely not continue to wear masks when the go ahead is given.
As you said, it makes sense to wear masks if you’re sick. If you’re sick, you shouldn’t be at work. If you’re not sick, you shouldn’t need to wear a mask when there isn’t a pandemic putting the entire world at risk.
The logic of wearing a mask as a server but not wearing a mask at a hockey game or concert doesn’t line up.

Question, have you ever sent home a server when you see that he/she had the "sniffles" or a cough/sneeze here and there?

[westopher]

I’ve sent home cooks dozens of times in my career. And yes the GM has sent home servers as well. I’ve certainly worked places that didn’t, but that obviously has to change with the way the world works now.
That said, it’s also a personal responsibility for people who are feeling sick to make that decision.
I’m not going to send someone home who feels fine but I see them cough once or twice in a shift.

[MG1]

I was only there for an hour or so, but everybody working there seemed to treat each other like family - lots of respect. I don't think any of them would show up for work if they suspected they had Covid. I loved how the owner kept making sure everybody was happy - both workers and customers alike. Definitely not a "restaurant chain" type of atmosphere. I went alone and that was a good thing. I had the opportunity to see all the goings on in that place. I'm super glad places like this still exists. But, the food.......... WOW! I'm going back, 'cause there's so many items to choose from. Wait....... this is about Covid...... sorry. Not the right thread.


Oops.......... damn, westopher. You are a master at multitasking? Also, me slow.

[Hakkaboy]

Originally Posted by westopher

I’ve sent home cooks dozens of times in my career. And yes the GM has sent home servers as well. I’ve certainly worked places that didn’t, but that obviously has to change with the way the world works now.
That said, it’s also a personal responsibility for people who are feeling sick to make that decision.
I’m not going to send someone home who feels fine but I see them cough once or twice in a shift.

Hopefully with COVID, people now have a greater responsibility with not coming in when sick, even if it doesn't seem that serious.

But on the server front, if someone had a choice between taking a sick day, or going into work only slightly sick and make hourly + tips, then I can certainly see them choosing the latter more times than not.

[westopher]

You could say that about every hourly employee in any profession, which is why government mandated sick pay has become such a contentious issue.
Restaurants aren’t some Wild West profession where there are no standards for the employees. Shitty ones maybe, but again, same as the shitty meat packing plants, shitty used car dealers, etc.
It’s in everyone’s best interests that people don’t get sick in our establishment. If you’re worried about that, you aren’t frequenting places that have interest in professionalism, or you need to work on your trust.
As I said, I’d be a lot more worried about the guy next to me at the hockey game or at the show at the commodore giving it to me than my server, but truthfully with the current situation, I’m not all that worried about any of it.

[PuYang]

Kinda embarrassing to admit, but I've always personally struggled with taking sick days...

It might be my upbringing, or something. The whole idea of 'toughing it out' etc, and just go to work anyway. The only times I would take a sick day is if I have a fever or something that really impacts my ability to concentrate.

I think part of it is I feel bad not getting any work done?

Of course, with Covid now, and going forward, I'll definitely be more careful and mindful about risking other's health.

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A Random 'sick / illness' story of me still going to class (regrettably):

Spoiler!

During my first year of university (many many years ago), I was SUPER SICK on the last day of the semester. But I had to hand in and present the final project to the class. So, despite feeling like garbage I went to school anyway. The whole time sitting there in class listening to others present theirs, I was sitting there just sweating like crazy and feeling super ill.

Finally got my presentation over, I told my friends I have to skip the second class and immediately headed home.

I had to walk ~15 minutes to the bus, take a bus for ~20 minutes, then take the skytrain, then get off and change trains at Broadway/Commercial, then ride the Millennium train towards Lougheed. I called my mom and asked her to pick me up at the Production station in Burnaby while I was still on the train.

The entire journey I was burning up, dizzy, sweaty, felt like throwing up, etc.

By the time I was ONE station away from Production, I threw up all over the floor on the skytrain. In that moment, I tried to 'hold it back' with my hands... resulting in me vomitting all over my hands and then onto the floor. Fortunately it was around noon time (not rush hour), so there wasn't AS many people on the train.

I was like oh crap, what now? I reached into my bag to grab some napkins, but the sheer volume of... vomit... was impossible for me to clean up. Especially when I was about to arrive at my station.

I look up, and sitting across from me is a guy who looked? like a homeless person. He was just looking at me and then he shook his head slowly. LOL. I'll never forget that awkward moment xD

Anyway, I had to just bail and got off the train at my station... leaving a bunch of napkins sitting in a pool of vomit...

But after that, I felt 100% better. I guess my body just really really wanted to expel something lol.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by PuYang

I think part of it is I feel bad not getting any work done?

I recall seeing a study that showed that due to how being sick makes you work less efficiently/accurately for a few days, and when you get your coworkers sick they do the same for a few days, that going into work while sick results in a larger reduction in the amount of work being done than if you just stayed home for those days.

At least now that everyone owns a bunch of masks hopefully more people will wear them to work/in public when they're feeling sick. I know I will be.

[Gh0stRider]

My previous employer only had 3 sick days per year. I would use that up every year. Afterwards, I would continue to come to work despite feeling under the weather.

My employer now gives me sick hours each paycheque and I've banked enough to take several months off, so I don't hesitate to use them if I feel anything coming on.

[MarkyMark]

Well that was fast, just went to my gym and I think it's was me and maybe 3 other people that had a mask on lol

[JDMDreams]

Does anyone think with the current rules it will be a disease of the poor and uneducated? Since they aren't forced to wear a mask anymore

[hud 91gt]

No.

[westopher]

It was a disease of the poor and elderly to start with. Obviously being that marginalized communities and people are in low paying, front line jobs.
Vaccines are the flame retardant in this fire fight at this point. There’s plenty of wealthy and educated people who are choosing not to use the tools given to them. Smart? Probably not.
We know you want to say “I told you so” every time some sort of socialization is reintroduced, but the numbers are still declining as the vaccine uptake increases.