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All i said 30 replies ago was there's a slippery slope of giving the government too much power and too much access. This is always dangerous.
People claim everything new is a slippery slope to something horrible. It might actually be the case, but the term is so overused by fear mongers making insane leaps it's become... meaningless? I don't really know the right word. But slippery slopes are a slippery slope from something that may actually happen to the downright absurd. Maybe I'm just sick of right wingers with their endless slippery slope fallacies panicking about every tiny change that may happen. Like no, a woman becoming president isn't a slippery slope to all men being locked in cages with their balls chopped off.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
you're again trying to lump some legitimate distrust of government mandated movement reporting, with crackpot ideology.
it's not the same thing as "5g mind control" vaccines at all.
instead of conceding a point, you continue to strawman.
No, I dropped the "tracking for a good cause" discussion because BC isn't doing it anyway. That was a side thing that I support, you don't, and we discussed our reasons for our beliefs... I don't think there was any big argument or anything, just two people sharing their views on a forum. There's no strawman here; that was a side discussion we had and both dropped since it's not happening anyway. Agree to disagree so to speak.
However the point still remains that the vaccine card system isn't a tracking system. It literally doesn't have the capability - the app doesn't read anything from a database, it reads from the card. It doesn't write to a database, it's not connected to the internet. It's not a "slippery slope" to anything. It's basically just an easy way to have confirmation that you have been vaccinated. Your ID itself still needs to be confirmed with a photo ID.
Everyone was worried about "minimum wage employees" having to do all this extra work.. Well they made it as easy as possible for these people do do this extra work. And the result is people freaking out that "the government" is trying to track them down with QR codes, including "high level security clearance" people making weird unfounded claims.
I just don't get it that's all... The facts are there, why not just look?
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Everyone was worried about "minimum wage employees" having to do all this extra work.. Well they made it as easy as possible for these people do do this extra work. And the result is people freaking out that "the government" is trying to track them down with QR codes, including "high level security clearance" people making weird unfounded claims.
I just don't get it that's all... The facts are there, why not just look?
No ones worried about “minimum wage employees doing more work”
They’re worried about violence against those employees from the crackpots that think restaurants are a human right and protest in front of hospitals.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
No ones worried about “minimum wage employees doing more work”
They’re worried about violence against those employees from the crackpots that think restaurants are a human right and protest in front of hospitals.
Yeah that's a whole other issue... Good luck with those goons
In my brain, it seems like a code which a cell phone camera uses generally forwarding to a web address.
To me, it seems everyone’s QR code, goes to a unique page that says if you’ve been vaccinated or not. This page can be opened by anyone with a camera. Generally speaking webpages have a log of users which access it. So your personal page (aka the government) will have a database of everyone who has scanned your image. The 16 year old at the front door of the movie theatre, your sister, or anyone else who cares to scan your QR. how is this information useful to anyone? Sure if your Super paranoid, someone can track that little Johnny’s phone scanned your code, he also works at The Penthouse strip club and there may be a connection there… sure whatever. Who cares.
In my brain, it seems like a code which a cell phone camera uses generally forwarding to a web address.
To me, it seems everyone’s QR code, goes to a unique page that says if you’ve been vaccinated or not. This page can be opened by anyone with a camera. Generally speaking webpages have a log of users which access it. So your personal page (aka the government) will have a database of everyone who has scanned your image. The 16 year old at the front door of the movie theatre, your sister, or anyone else who cares to scan your QR. how is this information useful to anyone? Sure if your Super paranoid, someone can track that little Johnny’s phone scanned your code, he also works at The Penthouse strip club and there may be a connection there… sure whatever. Who cares.
Can someone elaborate?
These QR codes contain letters and numbers and that's it. When you come across one that forwards to a web page, it's because the QR code is just a URL, and the phone knows what to do with it.
In this case, the code will contain info like your name, ID number, and vaccination status. It literally is no different than if it was just that information printed in letters that a human can read... The code just makes it easier to scan.
You can read about it on the BC Health website. It's not that detailed, but it's there
There's no database or anything... The 16 year old scans the code, sees your name and ID number and if you've been vaccinated. They then ask for a photo ID to match the name and picture to your face. Nobody knows you've been to that movie except you and that 16 year old. Nothing is uploaded, nothing is downloaded, people are just reading words and numbers.
The verifier app got released yesterday for iOS and Android.
Anyone can download it, so if you were holding a privately hosted event, you could verify guests. Or let's say you have immunocompromised household and you want to verify a contractor coming into your house let's say... I can see the use in that.
Per the description:
On scanning a valid QR code, the app will show whether the individual is fully or partially vaccinated. The app will display the vaccination status along with the name of the individual.
Verification is done locally on the device without communicating with the internet. The app does not save any information on the device nor does it collect any usage analytics.
Now whether some people will believe that or not is a whole other issue.
The verifier app got released yesterday for iOS and Android.
Thanks, going to need this for my Sunday night floor hockeys starting next week... community centres are leaving it to the rental groups to police themselves
Btw, when you scan the vaccine QR code with a regular camera app it directs you to a generic Apple health site. So obviously there is authentication factor pulling data remotely. It isn’t just a matter of pulling the data from the QR code without remote/encrypted access.
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Btw, when you scan the vaccine QR code with a regular camera app it directs you to a generic Apple health site. So obviously there is authentication factor pulling data remotely. It isn’t just a matter of pulling the data from the QR code without remote/encrypted access.
It just has a format where the iphone thinks it should automatically go there. If it was a URL, the browser would automatically open it
It's just converting data to text. It might be encrypted using a format that causes iphones to open that health site.
So it’s obviously encrypted enough to have to pull data from the BC health site. Which you were saying wasn’t the case.
I don’t care if it’s tracking me or not but you seem to be spewing out information on this program which is pretty clearly incorrect.
It doesn't have to "pull data" from anywhere. Encrypted text can be decrypted using the app.
Use the app in airplane mode if you want, it'll still work. And even if it did have to connect online, it doesn't mean The Government is tracking people. Apple probably is though lol
Yes I'm spewing information, because others keep trying to spew disinformation for some reason
So all the protestors can pretty much go to where they usually go, liquor stores, take out restaurants and have their hotel parties without being tracked by the government
Examples of places that don't require proof of vaccination
You don't have to show proof of vaccination at places like:
Grocery stores, liquor stores and pharmacies
Unlicensed restaurants that don't offer table service, like fast food, coffee shops and takeout
Local public transportation (BC Transit, TransLink, BC Ferries)
Salons, hairdressers, barbers
Hotels, resorts, pools, cabins and campsites
Unless it is a setting or event covered by the PHO order. For example a licensed hotel restaurant, wedding reception or conference
Banks and credit unions
Retail and clothing stores
Public libraries
Food banks and shelters
Escape rooms, laser tag, indoor paint ball, arcades and bowling alleys (if they are unlicensed or don't offer table service)
Post-secondary on-campus cafeterias
You don't have to show proof of vaccination at events like:
Worship services
Indoor youth recreational sport for people 19 years old or younger
Before and after school programs for K to 12 students
Student events and activities in K to 12 public and independent schools
Indoor organized events with less than 50 people, except adult sports
Speaking of face palms, I could only shake my head at the usual Sunday anti-vax/anti-mask protest here in town when I read a sign that said “believe science, not Facebook”.
So it’s obviously encrypted enough to have to pull data from the BC health site. Which you were saying wasn’t the case.
I don’t care if it’s tracking me or not but you seem to be spewing out information on this program which is pretty clearly incorrect.
The only encryption is from plain text to whatever gibberish that QR code represents. It's simply hashing, in which there's a formula to encode and decode.
Input x formula = QR code
Apply the formula to decode = name and vaccination status
Download a generic QR code scanner from the App Store, and once you scan the vaccination status code, it outputs shc:/[random string of numbers]
That's what the QR code represents. Now why would a rando app off the App Store be able to decode that? Because the QR code just converts a string to an image. What the vaccination app is doing is applying a formula to turn that gibberish into the name and status. Some QR codes represent URL's; in those cases, the default iOS camera app can detect them and suggest to open the link in Safari. That is not the case with the vaccination status codes; shc:/ is not a valid endpoint to anywhere.
I'm immeasurably dense, so I can't see how obvious it is that the vaccination app is connecting to the "BC Health Site". Pull out your SIM card, and turn off your router; if you can still scan a code then where is this magical health site? Is it cached locally on the device?
Edit: https://github.com/obrassard/shc-extractor
Someone has open-sourced a way to decode the gibberish, which is the info in a JSON payload. WoooOOOooOOo. This is all in the code.
Btw, when you scan the vaccine QR code with a regular camera app it directs you to a generic Apple health site. So obviously there is authentication factor pulling data remotely. It isn’t just a matter of pulling the data from the QR code without remote/encrypted access.
What are you on about? If it did have to connect to a server and supply data it wouldn't need a website to do that. Let alone a generic one from Apple.
That's not how that works. That's not how any of this works.
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Originally Posted by maksimizer
half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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Originally Posted by RevYouUp
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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Originally Posted by Good_KarMa
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
It doesn't have to "pull data" from anywhere. Encrypted text can be decrypted using the app.
Use the app in airplane mode if you want, it'll still work. And even if it did have to connect online, it doesn't mean The Government is tracking people. Apple probably is though lol
Yes I'm spewing information, because others keep trying to spew disinformation for some reason
I'm a software developer who has worked on QR code related features for my company before and Skinny is correct.
Also the BC governments github is public -- they wouldn't/can't lie about this shit.
Thank you, Skinny, and others that have experience with QR codes and this particular scanner app for explaining how they work.
I don’t understand why those that don’t have experience with these things are stating their opinions on how they work as fact.
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No mask, 15 year old flip phone so not to be tracked by the man, his story does check out.
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