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6793026 11-24-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by v_tec (Post 9045613)
Was debating with a friend.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/c...proof#required

What if its an indoor organized party with less than 50 people - but held inside a licenced restaurant, blocked off for the private party?

Need proof of vaccination?

My view:
Yes. As long as the restaurant is doing business, then yes, regardless of private party.

If the restaurant is closed, and just family gathering together, doors closed, then no.

The gray area is one is still running as a business versus just a location.

We had this in our HR department chat before:
Drinking ON the job is 9-5 no matter how you call it.
Drinking on-site would be after business hours.

v_tec 11-24-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 9045631)
My view:
Yes. As long as the restaurant is doing business, then yes, regardless of private party.

If the restaurant is closed, and just family gathering together, doors closed, then no.

The gray area is one is still running as a business versus just a location.

We had this in our HR department chat before:
Drinking ON the job is 9-5 no matter how you call it.
Drinking on-site would be after business hours.

To make it more grey, I was told it would be
- closed door, private party <50 people
- but restaurant will have another door just for public take outs
- no pubilc sit down guests

westopher 11-24-2021 12:16 PM

There’s no debate. If you are selling food and beverage to customers, whether it’s private or not, everyone has to be vaccinated. It’s written clearly that you aren’t in compliance if you are a licensed facility serving food or drink to unvaccinated patrons and risk (haha just kidding there’s no consequences) losing your liquor or business license.

SkunkWorks 11-24-2021 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9045651)
There’s no debate. If you are selling food and beverage to customers, whether it’s private or not, everyone has to be vaccinated. It’s written clearly that you aren’t in compliance if you are a licensed facility serving food or drink to unvaccinated patrons and risk (haha just kidding there’s no consequences) losing your liquor or business license.

Literally zero consequences to losing both your liquor and business licenses as we've witnessed FailFish

Manic! 11-25-2021 12:01 PM

Fuck these people.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7dd...ating-children

Quote:

In a post on Sunday to her over 70,000 followers on Telegram, Didulo issued an order to the soldiers of her “Kingdom of Canada’s Military.” She demanded the mass arrests of those they consider opposition, and wanted her soldiers to take control of newspapers and seize the border.

“Shoot to kill anyone who tries to inject Children under the age of 19 years old with Coronavirus19 vaccines/ bioweapons or any other Vaccines,” she wrote. “This order is effective immediately.”
She is from BC. Claims to be the queen of Qnon of some bullshit.

yray 11-25-2021 12:07 PM

I was expecting some white trash lady... slutty and gross...

Now I am just confused.

:drunk:

StylinRed 11-25-2021 12:07 PM

If these ppl were Muslims, CSIS n the RCMP would be offering em bombs or something

They should be classified as terrorists and arrested

CivicBlues 11-25-2021 12:32 PM

Well she's brown, just the wrong kinda brown I guess

SkinnyPupp 11-25-2021 03:07 PM

I've heard of her before, she is INSANE

You can read her website here and no it's not parody, she is actually this crazy.

She clearly has legitimate mental health issues, and is showing to be dangerous, encouraging other people with similar issues and mental deficiencies. What is normally done with people like this?

68style 11-25-2021 03:56 PM

Fuck the institution!!!!

……… please contribute to fucking the institution through convenient etransfer :)

StylinRed 11-26-2021 01:03 AM

This new? South African variant sounds troublesome... and its going thru double vaxxed ppl easily too

Quarantine hotel in Hong Kong has an outbreak of it

SkinnyPupp 11-26-2021 01:18 AM

Yup and many EU countries and banning incoming flights from various countries in Africa

Here's a thread on it worth reading


Manic! 11-26-2021 01:42 AM

Time to buy Chapman's ice cream.

https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/202...cream-boycott/

[People have started buying Chapman's Ice Cream in an effort to boycott a counter movement started by anti-vaxxers against the company. ]

StylinRed 11-26-2021 02:02 AM

Just got a tub of their holiday shortbread n salted caramel ice cream... Ehhh so so

whitev70r 11-26-2021 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 9045803)
This new? South African variant sounds troublesome... and its going thru double vaxxed ppl easily too

Quarantine hotel in Hong Kong has an outbreak of it

Oh damn!

Traum 11-26-2021 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9045804)
Yup and many EU countries and banning incoming flights from various countries in Africa

Makes me wonder why the Canadian (and US) gov aren't doing shxt to limit flights going to and from Africa...

This scenario is eerily similar to how things are back in the Jan - Feb 2020 time frame when the original COVID broke out. There have been calls to at least step up measures at the border, if not down right bans on flights from the breakout hotspot countries (China, S.Korea, Iran, etc.) But obviously Trudeau has learned absolutely nothing from that time...

68style 11-26-2021 07:51 AM

I'm sure Chapman's is really worried about the 10-14% of the population (and whatever percentage of those people are actually on board with stupid twitter movements -- a good portion of them probably can't read so there's that too) not buying their products.

Lame.

South Africa variant not good. This better not start all over again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9045815)
Makes me wonder why the Canadian (and US) gov aren't doing shxt to limit flights going to and from Africa...

Probably because it's impossible, people just stop over somewhere else and then fly from there... most flights from Africa connect anyway. I did read that Singapore isn't accepting anyone from South Africa even as in-transit though.

underscore 11-26-2021 08:09 AM

I'm pretty sure my wife ate enough Chapmans when she was pregnant (they were the only one I could find with peanut free options) to have cancelled out any piddly impact they may have anyways.

westopher 11-26-2021 08:55 AM

Block flights from SA all we want, it’s getting here regardless. Nothing short of closing the borders to 100% of people, in and out, citizens or not is going to prevent it from arriving. Letting the forest fire burn itself out is about the same effectiveness as pissing on one of the trees.

JDMDreams 11-26-2021 09:02 AM

Lol they are pulling the we have sufficient things in place to protect Canadians, PCR tests. Let's see how long this lasts.

Teriyaki 11-26-2021 09:06 AM

Travel bans don’t work. Seriously it’s the same drivel every time. Gov sucks because we didn’t close the borders. By the time the common joe, yes that’s you and me have heard about it, it’s way way too late for any ban to have any effect.

If anything, implementing harsh travel bans only disencourages certain countries from testing for variants and announcing their results for collaborative efforts.

This does suck though. Every variant up till this point we’ve heard about had the disclaimer that vaccines continue to be effective. This is the first that they admit vaccines are possibly not effective against which means it’s some really nasty shit. Fuck.

pastarocket 11-26-2021 09:44 AM

The name of the new South African variant is called....Omicron.


Who comes up with these Covid variant names?


My initial thought to this name Omicron is "Is this a Decepticon from the Transformers movies?"

"Did Megatron create a Covid variant?" LUL

https://globalnews.ca/news/8404987/n...nt-of-concern/

westopher 11-26-2021 09:45 AM

I’ve heard that there is no data that the vaccinations will be less effective or not. They will need weeks to determine that. Pfizer also said that if the variant is more transmissible they can modify vaccines within weeks to best protect against it.

Traum 11-26-2021 09:53 AM

Blocking flights is only a measure to slow the inevitable -- you guys are absolutely correct that the variant around the world one way or another. Still, implementing flight bans will buy us more time, and isn't that on its own is already worth something?

During this borrowed time, at a minimum, the scientific community would be able to better observe how this variant spreads, what seems to work and what does, etc. Or perhaps Big Pharma would be able to adjust their vaccine formulation to protect against this strain instead of the original wild type that the vaccine was developed on. etc. etc.

It's no different than being able to spread out your payments over a longer period of time instead of paying it all in one go. At the end of the day, you're still going to pay for the entire amount, but spreading it out over time makes it easier to manage.

Traum 11-26-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9045830)
Pfizer also said that if the variant is more transmissible they can modify vaccines within weeks to best protect against it.

This is something I have never understand -- we were sold on the mRNA vaccines as a technology where the manufacturer would only need weeks to tweak the formulation to protect against different variants. AFAIK, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines we use now are still developed to fight against the original wild type, not the current delta variant. It is still partially effective against delta, but delta has been shown to be vastly more transmissible than the original type. So why hasn't Pfizer / Modern adjusted their vaccine formulation to target delta?

The need for extra time to determine the effectiveness of our current vaccines against the new variant is precisely one of the reasons why banning / restricting flights is a necessary measure. We need to buy more time!


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