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wth i don't understand what the argument is here on Revscense.
If u want to take precautions, stay at home then do it. or go all out and attend a concert. there is no point in trying to convince others to do the same, one or the other u r losing. just don't be ignorant with what's happening and don't hoard tp and other stuff. u want to go to a cruise, then do it. whatever happens, happens. u know what risk u r talking already.
wth i don't understand what the argument is here on Revscense.
If u want to take precautions, stay at home then do it. or go all out and attend a concert. there is no point in trying to convince others to do the same, one or the other u r losing. just don't be ignorant with what's happening and don't hoard tp and other stuff. u want to go to a cruise, then do it. whatever happens, happens. u know what risk u r talking already.
If it's not so contagious then yes, you do you.
The problem with this mindset is that it is contagious. If you don't care about yourself, whatever, but dragging others into it is a whole different story. That's why people are recommending to take precautions.
It ain’t myself I’ve got to worry about, it’s disgusting other people.
I hope the flight attendant deliberately punched her straight in the mouth right after.....oh sorry I tripped.
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Well yea, of course that was going to be the assumption.
So really who do you trust? Can’t trust China can’t trust Russia, can’t trust Iran
We’re getting posts from TV doctors and people who’s business is causing panic but we can’t believe the BC Center for disease control when they say the risk of infection is minimal?
:/
I think with Russia, India, and the USA even, is they're just not testing people for covid, so their numbers are low, then they can just shrug and say "no real problem here..." we see that starting to change at least in the US now
I think with Russia, India, and the USA even, is they're just not testing people for covid, so their numbers are low, then they can just shrug and say "no real problem here..." we see that starting to change at least in the US now
The USA has only done 5000 tests. They have lots of testing kits but they have to be processed. The US does not have enough processing capacity.
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wth i don't understand what the argument is here on Revscense.
If u want to take precautions, stay at home then do it. or go all out and attend a concert. there is no point in trying to convince others to do the same, one or the other u r losing. just don't be ignorant with what's happening and don't hoard tp and other stuff. u want to go to a cruise, then do it. whatever happens, happens. u know what risk u r talking already.
Well as you say, there are people reckless and ignorant enough to try to go to a concert or on a cruise while there's a pandemic breaking out.
Thankfully for the rest of us, those things are all being canceled, so we won't have to worry about them getting the world sick
I know everyone complains about mainland tourists, but based on what I've seen, nobody hates them more than the Thais. Their culture is pretty homogenous, but they have always been pretty open and accepting to foreign travelers. But they now feel like their country has been absolutely trampled by the sheer amount of people coming in (and in many cases, people not really knowing how to act). They've shut down parks just to keep everyone out to let the land recuperate.
Anyone arriving in Hong Kong from Italy, as well as parts of France, Germany, Japan and Spain will be placed on a mandatory quarantine in government facilities for 14 days starting Friday midnight to contain the coronavirus epidemic. (these are added to the list including China and Korea)
Is Canada doing anything like this?
You better pay attention to the places that have recently dealt with epidemics.
I did give that pharmacist guy a hard time, but his post was unwarranted, talking about all these "facts" that were actually completely illegitimate and potentially dangerous. No he didn't say to not wash your hands, not sure why you'd think anyone accused him of that. My only intention of that admittedly snarky post was that I really hope he actually IS starting to follow and understand actual facts, and separating them from his opinions that mean no more or less than mine. I try to make it pretty clear when I'm talking about facts or my own opinions. And when someone says I am not speaking factually, I don't double down on it, I try to clear things up.
I love how you are still talking about so called "facts" when
A. You are not a healthcare professional
B. You haven't backed any of your arguments with facts or data
C. You have zero training in medical literature or data evaluation
D. You have zero hands-on experience managing real-life patients with acute respiratory distress or pneumonia
But since I'm spreading dangerous information, you're welcome to quote them to the college of pharmacists in BC and my licensing body in Hong Kong. I'll PM you my license number if that's what you would like to do. It's easy to become a "disease expert" through the interwebs and wikipedia when you have zero professional liability.
But hey, what does the CDC know that skinnypupp doesn't know. All those fancy degrees are no match for skinnypupp. Why would their opinion be any more valid than Mr. WebMD
Chinese govt now referring to the virus as "Italian Virus", their diplomats to ask countries to thank them (and Xi in particular) for making a sacrifice to save the world, and are telling their people that Xi has defeated the virus in China.
Arguing with Skinnypupp is like arguing with an ignorant anti-vaxxer. I will just spend time posting more relevant information from other medical professionals.
The previous infectious disease specialist had a more in-depth interview.
Some of the more important snippets
"Sharkawy said he wasn't trying to trivialize the virus in any way, but that "we have to recognize that 80 per cent or more of people that are afflicted by this are not going to be very sick, they're not likely to to die."
"If it can be a message where we can develop a very good sense of hand hygiene and break the chain of transmission, we'll protect that vulnerable segment of 20 per cent that will be more likely to succumb to this infection and its complications," he said.
He said his advice is to "live your life."
A different doctor put out some newer statistics:
"More than 80 per cent of COVID-19 infections are estimated to be mild, meaning symptoms are manageable and not life-threatening, compared with 15 per cent that are severe and five per cent that are critical and require ventilation.
The percentage of people who die from the illness is currently estimated at upwards of 3.4 per cent, according to the World Health Organization, which is significantly higher than the seasonal flu at less than one per cent.
"Canadians need to understand that the vast majority of us are going to manage well if infected with the illness, with most not even requiring hospitalization, says infectious disease physician Dr. Isaac Bogoch at Toronto General Hospital.
"We know this COVID-19 infection can disproportionately make individuals who are elderly and individuals with chronic medical conditions more sick, but we also know that almost any infection or condition can make that population more ill as well," he said.
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