coronavirus discussion

[whitev70r]

^ If you changed your profile pic, not only would it be easier on the eyes, people may read what you have to say.

[Traum]

Absolute numbers on the new cases are not particularly meaningful given how so many people are turned away from testing. But more importantly, absolute numbers for new cases as well as hospitalizations are entirely meaningless because those numbers have not been statistically normalized. In layman terms, with a vaccination rate hovering around 90% in BC, comparisons done with absolute case numbers between the vaccinated and unvaccinated does not provide any useful information on how likely someone is going to catch COVID or get hospitalized because of COVID.

Originally Posted by Vansterdam

Past week cases (December 31 to January 6) – Total 21,845

Not vaccinated: 3,291 (15.1%)
Partially vaccinated: 598 (2.7%)
Fully vaccinated: 17,956 (82.2%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (December 24 to January 6) – Total 404

Not vaccinated: 144 (35.6%)
Partially vaccinated: 13 (3.2%)
Fully vaccinated: 247 (61.1%)

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-a...lZOclI7aijgR-4

The statistical rate that you'd really want to look at is the:

1. cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age
- Not vaccinated: 482.7
- Partially vaccinated: 201.8
- Fully vaccinated: 390.4

2. cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age
- Not vaccinated: 35.5
- Partially vaccinated: 10.2
- Fully vaccinated: 5.3

This data is obtained straight from the horse's mouth
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022HLTH0008-000029

and you can see that with hospitalizations, for example, a non-vaccinated person has a roughly 7x higher chance of being hospitalized for COVID compared to a "fully vaccinated" (2 dose? 3 dose?) person.

[stewie]

Impressed with their booking system. Got my notification for my third shot on Saturday night and needle in arm earlier today.
Some of my older co-workers weren't impressed that they've got to wait until mid Feb for their earliest apt. I got to the pharmacy I picked and three was only 1 other person in there. In and out. Pfizer/Pfizer/Pfizer. Can't wait for the probable summer time booster shot!

[Mr.Money]

forth shot has being approved already since we have a ton of stock..

[SkinnyPupp]

Seeing all you guys getting your boosters already makes me once again impressed by the rollout in BC

I just booked mine for Jan 30

[BIC_BAWS]

Today's Day 5 of exposure (Day 4 of positive test result). I still have very few symptoms - just a runny nose/congestion still. I thought it was allergies but I'm not so sure now. It feels like I sneeze every minute - I can't stop sneezing. Energy wise I feel fine tho. Aside from the sneezing, I think I would be fine.

I still haven't tested yet cause I know it takes more symptoms (higher viral load) to produce a positive test result.

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[6793026]

i just got my 3rd shot and they are planning for 4th shot wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[El Bastardo]

The CDC elevated its travel recommendation to "Level Four: Very High" for Canada, telling Americans they should avoid travel, while the State Department also on Monday issued its "Level Four: Do Not Travel" advisory for Canada citing COVID-19 cases.

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This month, Canada broke its one-day record for the highest number of people hospitalized with COVID-19. Last Friday, officials said new daily cases had soared by 65% in the previous week, threatening healthcare systems.

https://www.aol.com/u-cdc-tells-amer...111927535.html

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by 6793026

i just got my 3rd shot and they are planning for 4th shot wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Of course. You’ll get 5 in a calendar year at this rate.

And lol last night at the Covid town hall Bonnie on what to do when your child tests positive at school - “well you know..5 days Is kind of the marker to return but if symptoms clear up in 1 or 2 they are good to go!”

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

Today's Day 5 of exposure (Day 4 of positive test result). I still have very few symptoms - just a runny nose/congestion still. I thought it was allergies but I'm not so sure now. It feels like I sneeze every minute - I can't stop sneezing. Energy wise I feel fine tho. Aside from the sneezing, I think I would be fine.

I still haven't tested yet cause I know it takes more symptoms (higher viral load) to produce a positive test result.

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Boosted? When was your last shot?

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Boosted? When was your last shot?

No booster, not qualified yet. Double vaxxed. Brother, who I live with, tested positive.

Last shot was first week of August?

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[JDMDreams]

You know they only say the 5 day thing cuz they know they fucked up and they can't afford everyone being off for 10 days. Plus they had all Oct to Dec to roll out the third shot as the vaccination rates died down. But they said third shot wasn't necessary. It's also how like bonnie said we won't use rapid tests because they were ineffective and not accurate. And the great idea of not mandatory vaccinations and say health care workers can work while positive

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Of course. You’ll get 5 in a calendar year at this rate.

And lol last night at the Covid town hall Bonnie on what to do when your child tests positive at school - “well you know..5 days Is kind of the marker to return but if symptoms clear up in 1 or 2 they are good to go!”

[Hondaracer]

Meh, I could have went back to work after a couple days of testing positive if I was no longer contagious. Had no symptoms felt fine. Gave me time to use new PS5 though

Impossible to know whether you’re contagious or not at that point though

[MarkyMark]

Tried looking at appointments in the Langley area after getting the text and any place I look says no appointments available no matter how far I look ahead on the calendar...

Anyways not very broken up about it but found that odd

[SumAznGuy]

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Tried looking at appointments in the Langley area after getting the text and any place I look says no appointments available no matter how far I look ahead on the calendar...

Anyways not very broken up about it but found that odd

Check back daily. A lot of the pharmacies offer out the shots but they won't list it until the day of.

[Traum]

So Quebec is planning to introduce a "health contribution fee" to those who refuse to get vaccinated (without valid medical reasons), and it is supposed to be a "significant" amount -- over $100, according to the Quebec premier.

It's gonna be very interesting to see how this one pans out. I expect civil liberty groups and anti-vax groups to sue the QC gov as soon as this is done.

Personally, I think an indiscriminate fee like that is utterly unfair. However, I agree it should be charged if the said unvaccinated person becomes hospitalized and requires medical care. When you are consciously making that decision to opt out of vaccination after looking at all the clear scientific proof for 2+ years, there is really no excuse to not sleep in the same bed that you've made yourself.

[CRS]

Originally Posted by CRS

Got 2x Pfizer and got the Moderna booster today.

Will let you know how I feel. Everything feels similar with just a slight sore arm right now.

Feeling pretty sore all over. Especially the arm.

Otherwise feeling alright. I am quite tired too so I suppose lethargic is a pretty good word to describe it.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Traum

So Quebec is planning to introduce a "health contribution fee" to those who refuse to get vaccinated (without valid medical reasons), and it is supposed to be a "significant" amount -- over $100, according to the Quebec premier.

It's gonna be very interesting to see how this one pans out. I expect civil liberty groups and anti-vax groups to sue the QC gov as soon as this is done.

Personally, I think an indiscriminate fee like that is utterly unfair. However, I agree it should be charged if the said unvaccinated person becomes hospitalized and requires medical care. When you are consciously making that decision to opt out of vaccination after looking at all the clear scientific proof for 2+ years, there is really no excuse to not sleep in the same bed that you've made yourself.

If this is the route Canada is going and you’re not alllwong for profit, private health care, we are going down a dark hole reallll quick.

90%+ of people full vaccinated, charge a health care fee!!! - Canada

65% of people fully vaccinated, everything open, operating, we advise against travel to Canada - USA

[SumAznGuy]

Got my booster yesterday at the Convention Center.

Word of advice, park in the Canada Place parking lot. They will reimburse you 1 hr of parking.

The lineup started in the corridor between the old and new convention center with the shot taking place in the old convention center.

I was in and out in an hr, this was at 3:50 yesterday.

My first shot was AZ, then I got Moderna as my second shot and this time around I got the PF shot, so I truely have it all.
So far the arm has point tenderness where the shot was. No other reactions.

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If this is the route Canada is going and you’re not alllwong for profit, private health care, we are going down a dark hole reallll quick.

90%+ of people full vaccinated, charge a health care fee!!! - Canada

65% of people fully vaccinated, everything open, operating, we advise against travel to Canada - USA

Ahh yes again we talk about how sweet it is in US.
Closing in on a million deaths. 6x the active cases per capita as canada. Better take that travel advisory as the gospel that things are all good there though.
This is just the propaganda US is putting out so the average person can feel good about their family members dying. "Well at least we are safer than Canada!"

[Traum]

Sorry, but I don't see how allowing private, for-profit healthcare has any relevance to the adoption of this "health contribution fee". And as I was saying, I think the fee is only appropriate if the unvaxxed person actually requires COVID medical care.

I don't want to get into a detailed discussion of the major drawbacks of for-profit private healthcare right now. But suffice to say, it'll poach a lot of the good and experienced medical staff into the private sector, and it'll divert a lot of the simpler medical care and procedures to the private sector while charging an arm and leg for them. But what those changes will mean is -- public sector healthcare will be left in a far worse state, with inexperienced medical staff and a shortage of staff working in the public sector, dealing with troublesome, expensive, and severe cases that the private healthcare system will not attend to, and nobody except the really rich would benefit from that public-private dual track healthcare system.

This exact scenario has been playing out in Hong Kong in the manner I described for the last 20+ years. It is not a healthcare system we want to go to.

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If this is the route Canada is going and you’re not alllwong for profit, private health care, we are going down a dark hole reallll quick.

90%+ of people full vaccinated, charge a health care fee!!! - Canada

65% of people fully vaccinated, everything open, operating, we advise against travel to Canada - USA

[JDMDreams]

USA is open cuz they pay for their own healthcare, if you're a dumbass get sick with no vaccine, you're paying for your own hospital bill, sounds fair, unlike here it comes from the general publics wallet. And clogging up our resources. USA also has more hospitals per population than us due to the private health care

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If this is the route Canada is going and you’re not alllwong for profit, private health care, we are going down a dark hole reallll quick.

90%+ of people full vaccinated, charge a health care fee!!! - Canada

65% of people fully vaccinated, everything open, operating, we advise against travel to Canada - USA

[ilovebacon]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

Today's Day 5 of exposure (Day 4 of positive test result). I still have very few symptoms - just a runny nose/congestion still. I thought it was allergies but I'm not so sure now. It feels like I sneeze every minute - I can't stop sneezing. Energy wise I feel fine tho. Aside from the sneezing, I think I would be fine.

I still haven't tested yet cause I know it takes more symptoms (higher viral load) to produce a positive test result.

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I had white patches on my tongue which caused food to taste half as flavourful

[Hondaracer]

While the rest of the world opens up, places with direct comparable like the UK etc. who can function fully open how long are we going to carry on this theme of doing the right thing? Lol can’t wait till all the virtue is signaling starts dropping over not getting your 5th booster and DoInG YoUr ParT!!

Even the CBC is running stories about Canada having some of the harshest “lockdowns” globally with shit like police raiding hockey arenas in Quebec etc.

As a fully vaccinated person, I definitely am jealous of the states. Of course people try to always spin it back into some trump/ultra conservative BS. But I guarantee you even sleepy joe realizes the importance of operating under some semblance of normalcy.

[westopher]

You might have a leg to stand on if you were posting that from Quebec, but other than getting married or going to a gym, you can pretty much do whatever here in BC.