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Hondaracer 01-19-2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9051263)
You misread, it's stupid and dangerous to think you are invincible - just like they are for vaccinated people.

Canada also allows proof of recovery to enter Canada.

Yea, my bad.

I’m not trying to be this constant contrarian but do all these places which allow you to get your vax pass based on recovery have data we don’t? Or is it Canada and turds take on the Canadian public in that if offered that option people would opt for recovery over vaccination and we wouldn’t have the rates we do today? (Which seemingly not working all that well in terms of returning to normalcy..)

It’s kind of fucked to see what other places do, other places with triple the population in Germany allow recovered people to function in society whereas here it’s either get vaccinated or you’re out of society completely.

Would you be taking 4 flu shots within the same year you got the flu?

inv4zn 01-19-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9051267)
Yea, my bad.

I’m not trying to be this constant contrarian but do all these places which allow you to get your vax pass based on recovery have data we don’t? Or is it Canada and turds take on the Canadian public in that if offered that option people would opt for recovery over vaccination and we wouldn’t have the rates we do today? (Which seemingly not working all that well in terms of returning to normalcy..)

It’s kind of fucked to see what other places do, other places with triple the population in Germany allow recovered people to function in society whereas here it’s either get vaccinated or you’re out of society completely.

Would you be taking 4 flu shots within the same year you got the flu?

It's all in perspective I think.

Germany isn't some utopia you make it out to be...fully vaccinated/recovered can go into restaurants via vax-pass, but they also need to provide evidence of booster or current negative test. (Source: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-tighte...nts/a-60355944). Arguably that's more stringent/worse than here. They're also mulling vaccine mandates nationwide.

I can also talk about Korea - they have a similar vax-pass, but you also needed one to go into grocery stores (this, they repealed after backlash). But sitting here in Vancouver you think Korea has gone back to normal life, whereas that's not true at all. My parents in Korea also think Canada is way too lax on everyday restrictions, and that it's far better off here than there. Like I said, perspective.

Or China, where also you think "regular life has resumed", they do shit like this:
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At an office building in China's capital on Sunday, masked COVID-19 control personnel lugged boxes of pillows and bedding through the closely guarded entrance for white collar workers stuck inside, preparing for what may be days of lockdown as Beijing rushes to prevent the spread of Omicron ahead of the Winter Olympics.

The snap lockdown meant the building in the west of the city was sealed off without advance warning, with everybody inside unable to leave and subject to compulsory Covid testing. The decision to lock the office down came after an employee tested positive for Omicron on Saturday -- the city's first recorded case of the highly transmissible variant.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...cted-1.5742943

Like, yes, things definitely aren't back to normal here, and current restrictions definitely have more impact/effect on some than others. But with bits of information and poorly captions pictures you see on the internet, it's impossible to make an informed deduction on where it's good and where it's bad.

westopher 01-19-2022 01:10 PM

https://www.euronews.com/amp/2022/01...ry-vaccination
Places in Europe and their various stances and plans on vaccine mandates.
Most are requiring health care workers to be vaccinated at least, which is nothing new. Nurses have been required to be vaccinated against things like TB and keep them current with boosters for well before my wife was doing it. Flu vaccines are mandatory or you need to work in a mask (long before the pandemic, pretty moot now)

Hondaracer 01-19-2022 01:18 PM

^ so most of that list uses recovery as a acceptable form for the pass.

I’m actually feeling those Greece policies, start fining the 70+ unvaccinated. Just like I posted before from those Alberta stats, the huge portion of ICU admissions is that 70+ bracket and seems logical it’s the same elsewhere

mb_ 01-19-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mb_ (Post 9051023)
I'm day 5 on mine and mostly feel recovered but still feel sore throat and cough. I was suppose to get my booster yesterday :lawl:

Worst was day 1-3 for me. My symptoms in the last 5 days were coughing, sore throat, fever, body aches, body chills, fatigue, runny nose in those order. Taking tylenol helped.

Fuck I'm on day 7 but my cough came back with a bang this morning, was hoping I could go back to work tomorrow :okay:

inv4zn 01-19-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9051272)
I’m actually feeling those Greece policies, start fining the 70+ unvaccinated. Just like I posted before from those Alberta stats, the huge portion of ICU admissions is that 70+ bracket and seems logical it’s the same elsewhere


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westopher 01-19-2022 01:39 PM

LOL
I actually like the dialogue with Honda even though we disagree on some things, but that shits funny.

Hondaracer 01-19-2022 01:45 PM

*unvaccinated old people

68style 01-19-2022 02:03 PM

So, I got my booster at noon today in a Shoppers Drug Mart... this 14-ish girl was before me with her Dad and when she went in, I could hear the conversation with the pharmacist... she asked if she can get the shot in her right arm and the pharmacist is like "Oh are you left handed?" and she said "No, I'm not naturally... but I'm trying to force myself to be to unlock the creative side of my brain."

No words..................

westopher 01-19-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9051265)
lol, just so you know, that's from a Beaverton article.

U MEAN IT NOT REEL?
There’s more logic in it than Chinas accusation to be honest, but yes, I copied and pasted from the Beaverton.

inv4zn 01-19-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9051287)
U MEAN IT NOT REEL?
There’s more logic in it than Chinas accusation to be honest, but yes, I copied and pasted from the Beaverton.

Haha yeah for sure, it's a sad testament when satirical articles hold more weight than the truth..lol

Traum 01-19-2022 03:58 PM

Here is the Global News article on our response to China's allegation:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8518482/c...omicron-covid/

Quote:

Dr. Gerald Evans, an infectious disease specialist at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ont., said it was “implausible” that a piece of mail from Canada would have any infectious virus on it that survived intact to result in a COVID-19 transmission event in China.

“SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, does not survive in an infectious form for very long outside an infected host or person,”
Evans cited a study released last week by the University of Bristol that showed that the virus loses 90% of its infectivity after 20 minutes in respiratory particles exhaled by a infected person, with the majority of that loss occurring in the first 5 minutes.

“This doesn’t sound credible at all,"

Teriyaki 01-19-2022 07:17 PM

We should send a harshly worded letter saying "Stop saying things that hurt the feelings of Canadian's"

ImportPsycho 01-19-2022 08:16 PM

I dont get why SOF is limiting capacity to 50%, their stores are never packed and social distancing just happens without even trying. Meanwhile shoulder to shoulder jam packed places like Costco and Ikea is ok with full capacity...

Hondaracer 01-20-2022 06:51 AM

290 people in hospital - the system is about to collapse!!!

900 people in hospital - lower the isolation time, if your kid has Covid but is asymptomatic he can go anywhere he wants!

UK also announced today, no more masks in public places or schools, no more vax pass for public events etc.

StylinRed 01-20-2022 07:04 AM



The topic of gain of function research is growing again

EvoFire 01-20-2022 07:08 AM

So I've been sick since Saturday. Tested 3 times all negative but since it's a rapid antigen test, there's an asterisk to that.

I started with a fever, runny nose, and headache on Saturday, which went into Sunday. Monday I was just having a runny nose and a slight fever. Tuesday I started having thick yellow mucus, and yesterday was the same.
Just got woken up by the kid cause he was up, and I don't have my voice.

Wife and kid are sick too with different symptoms.
Wife had a sore throat and a headache for a day, and nothing else
Kid has a runny nose, fever, and some coughing.

We haven't seen anyone or gone to anywhere high risk. The only biggest transfer point is kid going to daycare. At this point I'm 50/50 about having covid because I just don't think the test is accurate when it tells me negative.

westopher 01-20-2022 08:11 AM

UK only did that cause BOJO is trying to give the kids a gift so they don’t kick him out of the house.
“Oh you want me gone? You can stay up past midnight and have a bag of m&ms whenever you want”

!Aznboi128 01-20-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9051347)
So I've been sick since Saturday. Tested 3 times all negative but since it's a rapid antigen test, there's an asterisk to that.

I started with a fever, runny nose, and headache on Saturday, which went into Sunday. Monday I was just having a runny nose and a slight fever. Tuesday I started having thick yellow mucus, and yesterday was the same.
Just got woken up by the kid cause he was up, and I don't have my voice.

Wife and kid are sick too with different symptoms.
Wife had a sore throat and a headache for a day, and nothing else
Kid has a runny nose, fever, and some coughing.

We haven't seen anyone or gone to anywhere high risk. The only biggest transfer point is kid going to daycare. At this point I'm 50/50 about having covid because I just don't think the test is accurate when it tells me negative.

The Rapid antigen test will only test accurately 3-5 days after.

Hope all is well tho, this shit sucks.

Hondaracer 01-20-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9051349)
UK only did that cause BOJO is trying to give the kids a gift so they don’t kick him out of the house.
“Oh you want me gone? You can stay up past midnight and have a bag of m&ms whenever you want”

If that’s what Covid has become then so be it. Once again we fall well behind our direct comparables.

How long can we grasp onto this “be safe be calm!” BS

Even my work place now is like, oh you’ve got lingering symptoms? Well a cough and sore throat sometimes stick around according to us so return to work please

Edit* also Ireland followed suit in the easing, which obviously doesn’t take directives from Boris, so it’s not just an election thing, it’s a reality thing.

Traum 01-20-2022 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9051349)
UK only did that cause BOJO is trying to give the kids a gift so they don’t kick him out of the house.
“Oh you want me gone? You can stay up past midnight and have a bag of m&ms whenever you want”

IMO, while there is definitely a big dose of truth in what westopher has said, we also have to remember that:

1) The British attitude towards COVID has always been far more lax than we have. General mask use was never anywhere as close to the levels that we have seen here in Canada / BC / Metro Vancouver.

2) The NHS has been under far higher strains than we have here in Canada.

IMO -- and this is obviously only just IMO -- the more casual UK attitude is one of the reasons why UK has always seen higher COVID rates than we have. Of course UK cities have higher population densities than we do too, and that undoubtedly contributes to the higher rates of transmission as well.

At the end of the day, what I'm saying is -- the UK really has a higher need to relax their COVID restrictions because their healthcare and social system will collapse if they don't do this. But just because they do this doesn't mean it is the current gold standard. In fact, it is far from being the gold standard. It's just that Britons have always been realists. So given the predicament that they are in right now, it's just something they have to do.

If we do what the UK is doing, our case count is guaranteed to shoot up.

Hondaracer 01-20-2022 10:20 AM

So turns out Trump was actually right regarding remdesivir:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ents-1.5746373

And now Canada just approved the Pfizer anti-viral pill that “reduces the risk of hospitalization by 90%”

https://globalnews.ca/news/8516531/c...d-to-know/amp/

Which will of course by prioritized for the unvaccinated here in Canada.

Lift the fucking travel advisory ffs.

68style 01-20-2022 10:23 AM

Had my booster yesterday and felt fine, just the sore arm, even went to the gym last night… but today I feel like a truck hit my body… just sorrrrre everywhere.

StylinRed 01-20-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9051361)
So turns out Trump was actually right regarding remdesivir:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ents-1.5746373

And now Canada just approved the Pfizer anti-viral pill that “reduces the risk of hospitalization by 90%”

https://globalnews.ca/news/8516531/c...d-to-know/amp/

Which will of course by prioritized for the unvaccinated here in Canada.

Lift the fucking travel advisory ffs.

US prisons have also been giving inmates ivermectin to treat covid (prisoners are suing as they say they were given no choice)

Hondaracer 01-20-2022 12:23 PM

So global news at noon just ran this story with the reporter in the ICU in a Toronto hospital. They showed 6 fucking nurses and a doctor having to flip an unvaccinated 80 year old woman on a ventilator

“The outlook is not good”

Hahahaha like what in the fuckkkkkk are we doinggggg

I’m so glad we all “did our part” and more so that 80 year old unvaccinated people can decimate the businesses of young, healthy, vaccinated people. Really great.


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