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I wouldn't wish that place on anyone, Armpit of Canada the only place maybe equally as bad is Manitoba hah.
My parents went back there after being here 25 years, been there the last 10 and now they want to retire here.
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The 2 months of that being the message already happened, then a wexit supporter and a literal nazi decided to fundraise millions of dollars on a website that decided we don’t actually like the idea of this and returned the money to those that donated only to have people believe that Justin Trudeau quickly became the CEO of gofundme and personally stole all the money.
You think a nice chat is gonna solve this?
Honestly, sometimes you need to fight that rhetoric with the same, simplified answers.
Trudeau is a terrible orator and his messaging is usually crap.
He should simply continue to repeat "Mandates are in place by the US to cross the border, this has nothing to do with any Federal jurisdiction to that degree."
Treat these people like children, repeat the message, and do not allow the propaganda to fester. Many of these people don't even understand that Provinces/Premiers can enact whatever rules they wish, and they have.
This is not a Federal issue (outside of planes/trains, which the carriers would've required such mandates anyways).
Can we make a separate freedumb rally thread or just move this crap to the Canadian politics thread. Not what I come in to the virus thread for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Enough is enough with these right wing fringe groups who are latching on to the truckers' protest. -gotta stop these protesters before things turn ugly and violent.
Take back the city of Ottawa from these Covidiots!
Trudeau's father, Pierre Trudeau, invoked the War Measures Act in 1970. C'mon, Turd, stop being soft!
Be bold and send in the army to get those swastika flag, Confederate flag waving, Trump loving right wing nut jobs, and the Flu Truck Klan so that they go home.
Opinion: The Ottawa occupation is the October Crisis revisited. Justin Trudeau must be bold - The Globe and Mail
We’ve been here before. In October 1970, the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ), a cadre of violent separatists that had been sowing chaos since 1963, kidnapped James Cross, the British trade commissioner in Montreal. Then it abducted and murdered Pierre Laporte, a provincial cabinet minister. It issued a manifesto of impossible demands.
Fearing the provincial government might collapse, Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau invoked the War Measures Act, suspended civil liberties and sent troops into Montreal. Pressed to defend his draconian response, he declared: “There’s a lot of bleeding hearts around that just don’t like to see people with helmets and guns. Well, all I can say is, go on and bleed, but it’s more important to keep law and order in this society.”
Pressed how far he would go, his answer for the ages: “Just watch me.”
Honestly guys, if you have these right wing fringe groups start seriously hurting police, police who are out numbered, would you just want Turd to sit on his hands and make a few speeches in the House of Commons to condemn the Flu Truck Klan?
I'm not worried about the moderates, the truckers who have left Ottawa.
I am concerned about the extreme right wing idiots , here in Canada and the US, with a penchant for violence.
Those fuckers are not just anti-government mandates. They are "ANTI government" period.
Something has to be done to bring back peace to the city of Ottawa and its residents.
Clearly, the police do not have the resources in terms number of police and equipment to make these idiot truckers leave.
This is the twelfth day of protests in Ottawa. Things can escalate very quickly with these nut jobs.
Are our government leaders that inept that they would not bring enough assistance to the police and allow things to escalate to violence?
The Ottawa police chief is asking for 1800 police officers. Do we even have 900, half of that number of police officers, in Ottawa??
320icar is right, let's move the freedumb rally stuff to the Canadian Politics thread!
I created a specific thread for the freedom rally because there are political things happening apart from the rally that warrant discussion.
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She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
Hard to think this doesn't have anything to do with the protests given the immediacy of the order?
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Beginning Mar. 1, Kenney outlined Stage 2 of the province’s plan which includes a significant removal of several public health restrictions.
Some of the mandates lifted will include:
Indoor masking for all Albertans
All remaining school requirements
Youth screening no longer required for entertainment and sports
Capacity limits removed for all venues
Limits removed on indoor and outdoor gatherings
Work from home mandate lifted
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Well ... as omicron dies down, the mandates would have eventually been decreased and gradually lifted so if the truckers wait long enough, they can claim victory and that it was their protest.
They already claimed victory for Monday Jan. 31st when Ontario reinstated indoor dining again, which was already announced weeks before the convoy that it was happening. But the truckers subsequently shutdown Rideau Mall for a week because they were harassing shoppers and store employees.
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Omicron is finally hitting the fan here and we're up to 600 cases a day (highest number of the 4 previous waves was just over 100). A bunch of mandates take place tomorrow, including a vaccine passport required to enter most public places (markets, restaurants, even malls, but not public transport yet).
On the weekend I made a haircut appointment for today because I knew they'd be shut down very soon - turns out that day is tomorrow
They're still ridiculously strict, and if you get positive it can be a nightmare. Not because of covid itself, but because your life could be turned upside down with being sent to a quarantine for weeks. If you are a close contact you'll have to line up for 2-6 hours to be tested - 3 times!
I'm glad I got boosted in time, and hope it keeps covid away long enough for these rules to be lifted, which will HAVE happen because they won't be able to keep up with the spread of the virus. They've been removing them bit by bit as the numbers grow, and once it's at like 5000-10000 a day, they will just have to sit and wait it out.
I'm glad I got boosted in time, and hope it keeps covid away long enough for these rules to be lifted, which will HAVE happen because they won't be able to keep up with the spread of the virus. They've been removing them bit by bit as the numbers grow, and once it's at like 5000-10000 a day, they will just have to sit and wait it out.
Take care Skinny. Just remember one thing... the vaccine does NOT give you immunity against the virus. If you want to avoid getting it... avoid going out and that includes anyone in the household/who would come close to you.
Omicron transmissibility is no joke; probably the strongest yet.
A buddy of mine, who's an expat living in China, came back to Canada for x'mas and despite his best effort, got hit with omicron. And he basically postponed the plan to go back to China indefinitely for now fearing the treatment he's going to get by going to China even after he fully recovered.
Take care Skinny. Just remember one thing... the vaccine does NOT give you immunity against the virus. If you want to avoid getting it... avoid going out and that includes anyone in the household/who would come close to you.
Omicron transmissibility is no joke; probably the strongest yet.
A buddy of mine, who's an expat living in China, came back to Canada for x'mas and despite his best effort, got hit with omicron. And he basically postponed the plan to go back to China indefinitely for now fearing the treatment he's going to get by going to China even after he fully recovered.
Yup I know it won't prevent it, but it will probably be better than not.
We definitely don't go out anymore, but my wife and her sister still go to work so it's pretty much bound to happen (though her sister will do WFH in week long intervals starting next week). My hope is that not many people go looking to adopt dogs for the next couple weeks, and when it does happen we don't have to deal with quarantine. But I think a lot of people are acting like there's nothing going on.
China seems to be the only country left that is treating this extremely seriously. That supports my belief that they'll be the only country that will come out of this relatively unscathed, and when that does happen the world will look very different.
China seems to be the only country left that is treating this extremely seriously. That supports my belief that they'll be the only country that will come out of this relatively unscathed, and when that does happen the world will look very different.
FWIW, I think things are going to play out in exactly the opposite manner. COVID will continue to exist as an endemic for at least a few years, if not longer. If China (and by extension, Hong Kong) continues to keep up with its COVID zero policy while the rest of the world has adapted to only having limited restrictions, then China's economy will suffer immensely because a gob ton of international trading and business activities simply cannot continue. Meanwhile, the RoW continues with minor restrictions, so their economies do not suffer to the same extend as China.
And if China eventually re-opens to the rest of the world, because there have been relatively fewer cases of COVID among its population, it also means they have little to no immunity against it. So if China re-opens, its population will get hit hard with infections and see major disruptions.
Lol yea.. you don’t have to be a convoy trucker to realize the zero Covid approach is futile. Especially for a place like China.
All you’re doing is prolonging the pandemic. Countries around the world start to treat Covid as endemic and most of their citizens have had Covid etc. China and other places walk this tight rope of zero cases while trying to he global hubs? Lol good luck.
Korea still doing its 10 day mandatory quarantine upon arrival:
Omicron is finally hitting the fan here and we're up to 600 cases a day (highest number of the 4 previous waves was just over 100). A bunch of mandates take place tomorrow, including a vaccine passport required to enter most public places (markets, restaurants, even malls, but not public transport yet).
On the weekend I made a haircut appointment for today because I knew they'd be shut down very soon - turns out that day is tomorrow
They're still ridiculously strict, and if you get positive it can be a nightmare. Not because of covid itself, but because your life could be turned upside down with being sent to a quarantine for weeks. If you are a close contact you'll have to line up for 2-6 hours to be tested - 3 times!
I'm glad I got boosted in time, and hope it keeps covid away long enough for these rules to be lifted, which will HAVE happen because they won't be able to keep up with the spread of the virus. They've been removing them bit by bit as the numbers grow, and once it's at like 5000-10000 a day, they will just have to sit and wait it out.
what vaccine is being handed out over there? their shitty home brew one that isn't supposed to work or Pfizer/moderna?
i wonder how much of their strict lock downs are because they know what their handing out doesn't work?
what vaccine is being handed out over there? their shitty home brew one that isn't supposed to work or Pfizer/moderna?
i wonder how much of their strict lock downs are because they know what their handing out doesn't work?
You can choose between BioNTech (which is distributed by Pfizer in Canada so you'd be familiar with that) and Sinovac (the Chinese one). Kids 5-11 can only get BioNTech, anyone over 12 can get either.
Sinovac is the only one you can get at clinics, so a lot of old people who don't or can't go to Vaccination Centres for whatever reason are getting that one. Overall it's about 65% BioNTech, but lately more people are getting Sinovac just because it's easier for some people (and there's a ton of misinformation about mRNA vaccines which we all know about)
So really, almost half of the vaccinated population may be considered as barely vaccinated for Omicron
Delta is still around accounting for about 2.5% of cases, but 100% of deaths and 75% of current serious cases.
The strict lock downs and other policies in HK at least are there for one reason: because China does it, and they want to do whatever China does in hopes that they'll open the border.
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