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Just came back from a cruise with my family. My sister and her 2 yr old got COVID while on the cruise. Her husband and their 4 year old tested negative. They had to split up and go into isolation on the last day of the voyage. My wife and I tested negative along with my mom and dad. Prior to boarding, every passenger including children had to get tested for COVID.
The isolated passengers were the last to be let off the ship, and transport back home was provided by the cruise company.
Didn't care to go on the cruise, and I don't ever care to go again.
I think the point underscore was trying to make is that the unvaccinated person might have had COVID, except they were asymptomatic so they didn't even know they had it.
In addition, he mentioned "how vaccines work", so I think he's referring to herd immunity - i.e. most people are now vaccinated and do not have the virus, so if the unvaccinated were to hang out with the same people, there's less chance of catching the virus.
I was referring to how they're intended to reduce severity of symptoms, not prevent you from getting it at all, but you guys raise good points too. They're somewhat being covered by the vaccinated and even then I doubt many of the unvaxxed will get tested or admit to having it. They just had a cough and fever few days but it totally wasn't COVID. No sir. Definitely some totally different thing.
At this point I'm assuming Honda is just being deliberately obtuse, but maybe I'm giving too much credit there.
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Just came back from a cruise with my family. My sister and her 2 yr old got COVID while on the cruise. Her husband and their 4 year old tested negative. They had to split up and go into isolation on the last day of the voyage. My wife and I tested negative along with my mom and dad. Prior to boarding, every passenger including children had to get tested for COVID.
The isolated passengers were the last to be let off the ship, and transport back home was provided by the cruise company.
Didn't care to go on the cruise, and I don't ever care to go again.
Assuming this was your first time, sucks that it was ruined by COVID.
Pre-pandemic, I used to love going on cruises as everything (well, regular food/beverage, lodging, and entertainment) is paid for and you wake up in a new city every morning. The kids programs are usually well run so they can be occupied if you choose as well. But I'm not going on a cruise anytime soon.
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They have been causing covid since we all got chickenpox in elementary school, then we were given a second/third dose of covid when we got polio and measles, this was all the 20-40 year plan of the government, all tied in with the 911 tower controlled demolitions, followed by the great reset that's underway due to the current economic downfalls, thanks to Joe biden, who walked into trump's trap, that he has been setting for the last 4 years, without trump in office, unfortunately the moon landing would have never been staged in Hollywood in July of 1969, because trumps dad actually wrote the original conspiracy theory of JFKs death a year prior to 1963. If you are still reading this far in, then me and you both know global warming was invented for political finance reasons and the earth is still actually flat, almost as flat as those RFID chips that were injected into us in elementary school with the polio vaccines, hence why parents always knew where we were as kids, and finally today the vaccine updated the latest software in the RFIDs. The government picks who gets covid and who is an asymptomatic herd super spreader.
Cue china still being in lockdown (supreme government vs Canada)
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Clothes come off and my car is permeated with the smell of fillet-o-fish and canned tuna.
Haven't you heard? You get the vaccines and having those dead covid cells in your body acts like magnets for other hungry covid cells looking to avenge the death of their bretherin and they attack 10x harder than they would a defenseless body. It's called the magneto effect. No surprise that Jeff Bezos looks kind of like Magneto, because billionare.
Everyone in my social circle has tested positive for Covid recently yet I'm still somehow okay lol. Went to the Canada vs Curacao game and 3 of my buddies were positive after a day but I'm still good...
Everyone in my social circle has tested positive for Covid recently yet I'm still somehow okay lol. Went to the Canada vs Curacao game and 3 of my buddies were positive after a day but I'm still good...
Maybe you got lucky and the vaccine didn't actually work!
The Canadian government is dropping the requirement that domestic and outbound international travellers be fully vaccinated against COVID-19, effective June 20. However, all re-entry requirements will remain in effect, and all passengers will continue to have to wear face masks.
This change will allow unvaccinated Canadians to board planes and trains heading to either domestic or international locations, but they will still be required to follow the current testing and quarantine requirements upon re-entry from international destinations.
Further, "due to the unique nature of cruise ship travel," the vaccination requirements for passengers and crew of cruise ships will remain in effect.
The requirement to use the ArriveCAN app to show proof of vaccination upon arrival to avoid a federal quarantine will continue, and all travellers will have to continue to abide by other country's entry requirements, potentially limiting the destinations unvaccinated travellers will be able to visit. Many countries, including the U.S., continue to require proof of vaccination upon entry.
Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc, Transport Minister Omar Alghabra, Treasury Board President Mona Fortier, and Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos made the announcement on Tuesday, alongside major updates to Canada’s vaccine mandates for transportation workers, and federal employees.
In revealing the updated policies, government says the mandates have been effective through the thick of the pandemic, but were never meant to be permanent. Though, should case counts climb again, federal officials say they won’t hesitate to reinstate any suspended COVID-19 travel restrictions.
The Canadian government says this move is coming now "following a successful vaccination campaign." Nearly 90 per cent of eligible Canadians are vaccinated against COVID-19.
"The decision today is not based on something that we woke up yesterday or this morning, and decided to do. We've done our homework… What got us [to] today was a period of discussions, of consultations, of looking at the big picture, of preparing ourselves for a potential wave in the fall, but [also] the current situation today," Alghabra said. "It's clear that the COVID situation is not the same now as it was last fall when we implemented the vaccine mandate."
The federal mandates requiring all passengers on planes or trains to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 before boarding were first promised by the Liberals during the last federal election, and came into effect in October 2021.
In recent months, pressure has been mounting for the government to lift the travel vaccination requirements from opposition politicians and the travel industry, citing the significant strains and delays at Canadian airports, as well as the easing provincial public health rules.
Throughout these calls, the Liberals have defended the mandates, repeatedly referring to the need to follow the science and advice of public health officials.
On Tuesday, ministers said that the federal government’s “top priority” remains keeping Canadians safe, and that this decision is not related to easing the strain at Canadian airports, which they attribute to "staffing shortages."
Rather, the ministers cited the virus' evolution, the current epidemiological and modelling projections, and the high vaccination rate in Canada as key factors in lifting the mandates now.
With the policy change likely prompting even more of an influx in travellers descending on Canadian airports, the transport minister faced several questions about whether the government is equipped to adequately handle the added crowds. He said work continues with the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) to "increase efficiencies."
Last week the government halted its mandatory random testing of vaccinated travellers at airports, but maintained the requirement for any unvaccinated travellers to be swabbed.
In order to be considered fully vaccinated under the federal policy, people have had to show proof of a full vaccination series, but not a booster dose, despite calls from public health officials to make a third dose part of the requirement to better protect against severe illness and to shore-up waning immunity.
On Tuesday, Duclos said the Omicron variant has made it evident that two doses "are no longer enough," though the government is not going beyond encouraging those who have not yet received a booster dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to do so.
"Our rate of boosters in Canada is too low. It's lower than all other G7 countries, and that is not good. However, we know we can do better… and that's [what] we're going to do also in the next weeks and months with all provinces and territories, so that we are better prepared and sufficiently prepared for what… may be coming in the fall."
Reacting to the news, the National Airlines Council of Canada—which represents Canada's largest carriers, including Air Canada and WestJet—said it views the move as a "major milestone for the aviation sector, the tourism industry, and for Canadian travellers," but said it is not enough to resolve the problems at airports.
The Council is calling for immediate changes to ArriveCAN to eliminate duplicative health checks, end the mandate for inbound international travellers, and a commitment to make permanent the recent suspensions of mandates and random testing.
"The government’s decision to suspend the national vaccine mandate for air travel and transportation employees is a positive step, one that will simplify many aspects of travel and bring Canada closer to the emerging standard currently in place around the world. Airlines will work diligently to implement these changes," said the Council's interim president and CEO Suzanne Acton-Gervais in a statement.
Conservative transport critic Melissa Lantsman said that while the government has "finally" moved to end travel mandates, she said a suspension is not the same as a full elimination. "Some vaccine mandates is not all vaccine mandates. Still NO science we’ve seen to justify any mandates," she tweeted.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his team was consulted about the decision to remove these mandates before the announcement was made, given the NDP are in a confidence and supply deal with the Liberals.
"We said it's a very important factor in any decision, that we are following best evidence, and that we are letting Canadians know why certain orders are in place… And if there is no longer evidence we should no longer continue with a [public health] order," Singh said. "We supported that decision."
^ sorry wrong link, dated article. I've edited in original. Kinda to be expected that case numbers will rise but be cautious .. that's all. I constantly know a handful of people who are Covid positive.
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The third Omicron wave has begun and is expected to increase rapidly and peak in August, says a COVID modelling expert.
“You go to the grocery store now and your risk is reasonably low. You go to the grocery store in three weeks and there is a high chance that somebody else will have COVID.”
“Every week in July that passes, COVID risk is doubling and that should help give people a sense of how much more likely they are to encounter COVID in their communities,” Otto said.
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Yeah to be honest I feel like it's really not slowed down in my circle of friends and co workers. I always seem to know at least 2 people with it, but that said, no one out of those I know anymore is getting unmanageably sick. At the beginning it was taking people out much longer.
I think it's milder, but clearly other parts of it is that people don't care anymore. No ones going to get serious about it again, unless they are forced to.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
A lot of people I know, including myself got this sore throat, coughing thing but it's not COVID these last few weeks. So better prepare your cheeks. Wonder when they are gonna announce 4th shots/ flu shots.
If restrictions are enforced again, even the people that were for it before will be saying f#ck that this time around. No one wants to hear about this anymore. Yes it's still around and people are still getting it but it's no longer deadly as it once was.
^ Agreed, I still put a mask on for the train ride (for example) just being much more conscious of all cold and flu stuff I feel like it’s just a good practice to take on some ideals that metropolitan Asian cultures have been practicing for decades to abate cold and flu spreading… but that’s about the extent of it.
I’ve donated enough of my life and efforts to this stuff.
Meh, its like an annual flu shot. Not a big deal at all. People will turn it into a big deal though.
Flu shot isn't a big deal because you don't have to get it, so if it's the same as that then I imagine no one will really make much of a fuss about it.
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Flu mutates, that’s why we are supposed to get a shot once a year.
Covid mutates, what should we expect in that case? I thought it was just a flu anyways?
We wanted tools to manage it, got the tools, now people don’t like the tools. If you want to solve the problem, find some new tools I guess.
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Westopher is correct.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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