coronavirus discussion

[68style]

Yah averaged out to once a day.. and mostly mouth tests

I'm the same doing the nose tests a couple weeks back... ugh

[CivicBlues]

Yup if there's any immediate benefit of catching covid in 2022 vs 2020/2021 it's having completely avoiding the brain poking PCR tests.

[underscore]

The tests sucked but I must admit I've never breathed through my nose more clearly than after a nurse did the really deep swab test.

[68style]

I kinda miss as a kid when the doctor used to put tonnes of peroxide or whatever it was in my ear and use that super water gun to spray water in there and the basin would fill up with all these chunks and my hearing would be crystal clear after.

Sorry if you're eating dinner.

[jjson]

Originally Posted by 68style

I kinda miss as a kid when the doctor used to put tonnes of peroxide or whatever it was in my ear and use that super water gun to spray water in there and the basin would fill up with all these chunks and my hearing would be crystal clear after.

Sorry if you're eating dinner.

holy shit i had that done maybe a year and a half ago at my GP. It was the best feeling ever after. I had custom earplugs fitted at work and after that my hearing felt off

[68style]

They still do it??? Ughhh... WANT

[bcrdukes]

I have never heard of this in my life haha

wait what?

[GLOW]

it's like an ear enema

can't you technically just do that yourself?

[StylinRed]

Had to have that done a couple times as a teen, I hated it tho cuz it made my eyes tear up like crazy, the super hearing afterwards was cool tho

[quasi]

Originally Posted by GLOW

it's like an ear enema

can't you technically just do that yourself?

Yup, do it myself probably 3 times a year with a big syringe looking thing. Used to get it done by the doctor.

[whitev70r]

^ not as satisfying

[quasi]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

^ not as satisfying

Yeah but now I'm basically a Doctor by proxy, same same. Also a barber, shave my own head, pair of skills

[underscore]

Originally Posted by GLOW

it's like an ear enema

can't you technically just do that yourself?

I do it myself when my ears get plugged up. My hearing is shit to begin with but even still i8t makes a big difference.

[SkinnyPupp]

Good info here

Twitter

TL;DW: Travel restrictions on China are pointless, because new infections would come through other countries anyway. Also a billion people getting it could lead to new variants, but there are billions getting covid all over the world anyway. Also strict quarantine and travel restrictions were effective and important early on, but pointless nowadays

[Traum]

Travel restrictions shouldn't just ban travelers coming in from China. Instead, it should be done by how long ago the person was in China - 5? 7? 10 days before?

While it is true that infections will eventually come through anyway, there is still merit if:

1) the infections can be delayed, and
2) the number of infections can be reduced

Esp given the timing of things, if travel restrictions can push back the next infection wave by 3 months, we'd be in March / April where transmissions of respiratory illnesses would be far less effective than they are in the dead of winter. The outcome of that is far fewer infections. Fewer infections mean fewer severe cases, and fewer severe cases means less stress on our medical resources and fewer deaths.

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by quasi

Yup, do it myself probably 3 times a year with a big syringe looking thing. Used to get it done by the doctor.

what do you use, just water?

[quasi]

Originally Posted by GLOW

what do you use, just water?

Yes, warm water.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wife's dad in guangdong got covid, and is testing negative now. I heard him on the phone and he seemed to have this fit where he had trouble breathing. Pretty scary

He said around 80% of his workforce got covid, and they had to shut down completely.

The overall infectionr ate really is probably 80% and will eventually be 100%. So the anti vax people will have a nice big set of data to compare, although it's doubtful we'll ever get real numbers out of there, no matter how bad or good. Let's just say if their death rate is anything like Hong Kong's, they are going to have a sizeable reduction in their eldery and infant population. Like history defining catastrophe level....

But herd immunity, right?

[JDMDreams]

^^ so why is that? People in China still hasn't taken the shot or it's ineffective? All the anti Vax are still alive and breathing here

[westopher]

Different genetics, different variations of the virus, ineffective vaccines, age of population, population density, lack of immunity from exposure to less transmissible less severe strains of the virus. There's a lot of reasons that are reasonably easy to point out if you've been following it over the last 3 years.

[Mr.Money]

stopped in town for a bit..


Richmond mall was packed up the brim, YVR was packed to the max with quick walking lines.

got covid 5 days later... my stupid self not wearing a mask and almost 95% of everybody wasn't



hit like a bitch on 1st and 2nd day... high temps causing night terrors (took some pain meds be4 sleep but this still happened) ... feeling like a cup of water was poured on me by sweating so much, headache. chills . coughs. tons of plem spitting up.



guess i should've got my 4th shot... i got my 3'd shot but this was in 2021 december. its suppose to stay in your T-cells 10 years though the vaccine

[Traum]

So I am surprised Canada actually adopted the pre-flight negative COVID test requirements fairly quickly:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...19-test-china/

The restrictions certainly seem rather porous to me, as I can easily think of several different ways in which the requirements can be circumvented. Still, it would hopefully reduce the number of inbound travelers from China and slow the importation of (COVID) carriers compared to an open-border policy.

I wonder what the COVID situation -- both locally and globally -- would look like in 30 days when the measure is re-assessed...

[westopher]

"2023 is gonna be a better year"
Lockdown commences Jan 25th

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

^^ so why is that? People in China still hasn't taken the shot or it's ineffective? All the anti Vax are still alive and breathing here

They didn't push vaccination hard like they did over there. In HK, really only young healthy intelligent people were getting vaccinated. The stubborn/clueless people and the stubbrn/clueless old people - who obviously need it most - didn't bother because they felt that the strict rules and quarantine would keep them safe.

They couldn't be convinced otherwise, and thus when a big wave did hit, HK had a higher death rate than any country in the world. Despite an incredibly well run program (including the ability to choose a Chinese or German vaccine), it just wasn't convincing enough because the other rules were so strict, it gave a false sense of security. And of course all the rumors about the vaccine being bad for you gave them one more reason not to get it.

They needed to incentivize it somehow. People will do anything for some free money, but they gave us all thousands every month for nothing. Even a bonus of like $100 USD would have increased vaccination rate by a LOT I think

I think China had a similar issue, where the rules were so strict that they thought it would be plenty to keep the virus at bay. Also they only have the Chinese vaccine, which is pretty effective after 3 doses, but still not as much as the European one. Then there's the issue of trust.. You already have to convince people to take a drug they don't trust, and then only give them the choice of one from a country they don't trust. Double reason not to take it.

Even my wife's dad never got it. He said nobody else was getting it, and nobody was getting sick so, *shrug*

Now it's an issue though... Everything the world went through 2 years ago, they are living it now. Except with a lot more knowledge of how to treat it in people who can be treated, and also thankfully the strain is much weaker for most people.

[Traum]

In addition to the Chinese vaccines being far less effective than the mRNA ones the western world has access to, another important issue is the waning effectiveness of the vaccines after the initial doses have been administered. The mRNA vaccines are generally effective for a duration of 4 - 6 months, but in China, while they had pushed for mass vaccination when the Chinese vaccines were first made, they didn't push for a rigourous booster program. Instead, China spent / wasted its medical funding on an excessively frequent COVID screening program, as well as an extensive network of field hospital style isolation centers across the country. So what ended up happening was, among the general population, both natural an artificial (ie. vaccine induced) immunity against COVID is low. When you throw the highly infectious Omicron variants against a population like that, it's exactly like tossing a lit up match into a pile of cinder / tinder.

Another worrying trend is -- according to news that is seeping through Chinese social media, there seems to be a higher occurrence of lower respiratory tract infection in China now than what Omicron would typically produce. I do not know why that is the case, but we all know that COVID involving lower respiratory tract infections are far more serious and much deadlier than COVID with only upper respiratory traction infections.

A very ironic thing with China's situation is -- because they have spent / wasted so much money on screening / building field hospitals, now they have very little funding left to use in proper medical settings to treat the sick. Every indication I've read is suggesting that their medical resources are overwhelmed already, even when you are mid-level CCP members (who should have been entitled to better than average priority at for medical care and stuff). Adding the lack of medical resources to treat more severe forms of COVID, you have a deadly combination at your hands.