coronavirus discussion

[68style]

You let your defenses down staring at your new watch at that dinner!!!

[donk.]

They still running those 6x10 cells stacked side by side?

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by 68style

You let your defenses down staring at your new watch at that dinner!!!

That's definitely where I got it too.. We got a phone call the net day that their helper got covid

So far only I have it

Originally Posted by donk.

They still running those 6x10 cells stacked side by side?

Not anymore I don't think! Maybe just for travel quarantine?

Hopefully they can find some use for those things. Maybe cheap housing for students or something

[Alpine]

https://apps.who.int/gb/wgihr/pdf_fi...ilation-en.pdf

Looks like the WHO will become the world governing body for all risk with a potential to impact public health.

[SkinnyPupp]

Sense of taste still isn't fully back

[pastarocket]

Uh oh.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/who-m...reak-1.6751113

Marburg virus is detected in Africa according to the World Health Organization. The country Equatorial Guinea.

This virus is nasty! The fever and other nasty symptoms from this virus can lead to a fatality rate of 88 percent in people who contract Marburg.

Marburg, which is related to Ebola, is already being blamed for at least nine deaths in the country, and another 16 suspected cases are being investigated.

Without treatment, Marburg can be fatal in up to 88 per cent of people.

Marburg virus is believed to have originated in African fruit bats. It was first identified in 1967 in Germany and the former Yugoslavia, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among people who had been working with green monkeys that had been imported from Uganda.

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), people can contract the virus through prolonged exposure in mines or caves where the bat colonies live.

The virus spreads between humans through direct contact with blood or other bodily fluids of an infected individual, or with surfaces contaminated with the virus, such as clothing or bed sheets.

Marburg is not airborne.

What are the symptoms?

Symptoms may begin "abruptly," according to WHO, and include high fever, severe headache and malaise. Muscle aches and pains are also common.

"It can impact every organ, and it essentially will cause a shock-like syndrome," said Dr. Isaac Bogoch, an infectious diseases specialist at Toronto General Hospital.

He said the virus can also cause gastrointestinal complications and a predilection to easy bleeding.

WHO says a rash can appear in the first seven days, and the central nervous system can be affected, resulting in confusion, aggression and irritability.

If death occurs, it generally happens eight to nine days after onset, following severe blood loss and shock.



WHO said it is sending medical experts to help local officials in Equatorial Guinea, along with protective equipment for hundreds of workers.

"Surveillance in the field has been intensified," said George Ameh, WHO's country representative in Equatorial Guinea.

"Contact tracing, as you know, is a cornerstone of the response. We have ... redeployed the COVID-19 teams that were there for contact tracing and quickly retrofitted them to really help us out."

WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the agency is also supporting the governments of Cameroon and Gabon "to prepare, to rapidly detect, isolate and provide care for any suspected cases.

[MarkyMark]

Weren't we all supposed to have Monkeypox by now?

[Hondaracer]

3000 people a year dieing in BC from toxic drugs

“Yo did you hear about this virus in rural Africa?!?!”

[hud 91gt]

Imagine Marburg Corona.

Glory holes with condoms

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

3000 people a year dieing in BC from toxic drugs

“Yo did you hear about this virus in rural Africa?!?!”

I like how you care about addicts when it's convenient.

[inv4zn]

Originally Posted by westopher

I like how you care about addicts when it's convenient.

You make the mistake of thinking he cares, rather than just using whatever's convenient for stupid strawman argument.

Look, a new virus!
"but what about the addicts!"

Look, social programs for addicts!
"but what about those that stole covid relief money!"

Look, more funding for the CRA!
"but what about covid and the economy!"

[Hondaracer]

I’m the only one that ever mentions it. And it’s a far greater burden on society as a whole than any of this other click bait bullshit.

I also 100000% care and have cared more about that situation than any sort of Covid BS for the last year as well.

Everyone here always goes on about how Turds BS doesn’t directly effect us bla bla bla so now I’m complaining about somthing that very clearly affects me directly and it’s BS? lol

I’m like damn.. maybe we have to do something about this homeless situation that is very clearly the plague of society in Vancouver/Western Canada. And seeing as I live like 3 KM’s from epicentre of the worst of it and as a Vancouver tax payer I ask why we’re pumping the news full of rural African virus news while it’s left up to places like the Georgia Straight to consistently report on toxic drug deaths and how they VASTLY outpace any of this virus VS?

sTrAwmAn!!!

[68style]

It's got almost nothing to do with TuRd tho, that's the weird part

[Hondaracer]

My point is, people are always saying myself and others are concerned about shit which doesn’t affect us, Covid spending, etc etc.

This very much does effect me both financially and socially and the attitude is the same

[pastarocket]

Like Hondaracer, I am not a supporter or a voter for the Liberals and Turd.

Heck, I voted for the Conservatives in the last federal election.

Nothing changes though. As long as the Liberals get support from Jagmeet and the NDP, Turd is still in power as the PM.

The toxic drug situation in B.C. is complex. Is it just throwing more federal funding and health care spending dollars to tackle the issue of drug toxicity deaths? If it only was so simple.

https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-new...begins-6463732

I don't know what this pilot project for drug decriminalization will do to help B.C. reduce deaths from toxic drugs.

No arrests of people in possession of up to 2.5 grams of illicit substances such as opioids, cocaine, meth.

The article mentions that the stigma of drug use will be reduced with this decriminalization pilot program.

I don't understand from a health standpoint, how 2.5 grams of any of those drugs mentioned above does not turn a person into an addict.

What if a person keeps taking opioids, or meth, of 2.5 grams per day in possession in a public area?

Doesn't that shit mess a person up even with a small dose per day??

I question this decriminalization of certain drugs from the B.C government.

There is some news coverage of toxicity drug deaths but not nearly as much coverage compared to Covid because of the amount of people infected or are dead because of that virus compared to drugs. Pretty obvious.

[68style]

It's not supposed to be a single prong attack is the main problem.

Decriminalization is definitely the way to go, there's no point in throwing people into jail (ie: crime school / life ruiner once that's on your resume) for simple possession. That's a good move in the long run.

However, it needs to be supported by massive education on drugs, safe supply and appropriate assistance programs.

A combination of all of them working together can be extremely successful in preventing, not being overly punitive and rehabilitating. This is good for everyone and costs a lot less than the alternative (emergency rooms, police, courts, jails) but it's getting past that mindset that there's only 1 right and 1 wrong that's the problem or getting enough funding to do it all together.

Alone it will fail miserably.

[JDMDreams]

^^ nah bro the freedom protestors will be like it's mah rights and freedoms to do crack, you can't force me into rehab, human rights bro

[inv4zn]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

^^ nah bro the freedom protestors will be like it's mah rights and freedoms to do crack, you can't force me into rehab, human rights bro

Portugal (ironically for Honda), decriminalized all drug possessions in 2001. Since then they've consistently remained lower than EU average on drug deaths, drug use, and all associated societal impacts - and is widely lauded as a positive example.

https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug...ecord-straight

[westopher]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

I’m the only one that ever mentions it. And it’s a far greater burden on society as a whole than any of this other click bait bullshit.

I also 100000% care and have cared more about that situation than any sort of Covid BS for the last year as well.

Everyone here always goes on about how Turds BS doesn’t directly effect us bla bla bla so now I’m complaining about somthing that very clearly affects me directly and it’s BS? lol

I’m like damn.. maybe we have to do something about this homeless situation that is very clearly the plague of society in Vancouver/Western Canada. And seeing as I live like 3 KM’s from epicentre of the worst of it and as a Vancouver tax payer I ask why we’re pumping the news full of rural African virus news while it’s left up to places like the Georgia Straight to consistently report on toxic drug deaths and how they VASTLY outpace any of this virus VS?

sTrAwmAn!!!

It's like you've never turned on the internet in your life. There are stories all day, every day on every avenue about the toxic drug crisis in BC and all of canada. It's just that you either don't have the attention span to follow that or you tune it out so you can manufacture outrage at places like CBC like every other angry conservative that thinks "mainstream media" is what's causing the division and not places like rebel media.

[68style]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

^^ nah bro the freedom protestors will be like it's mah rights and freedoms to do crack, you can't force me into rehab, human rights bro

Sure, some people will... there's always outliers that aren't caught in every single social system no matter what you do. That's life, someone will always wah wah about something.

[westopher]

Yeah the thing is, forcing someone into rehab is guaranteed failure. People are sentient after all.
The issue is that people have to wait for rehab, and I don't doubt that people who know much more about the situation than any of us do would say the same thing. If you tell someone to wait 3 months for a spot in detox, how many do you think are going to be able to just "tough it out"

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by inv4zn

Portugal (ironically for Honda), decriminalized all drug possessions in 2001. Since then they've consistently remained lower than EU average on drug deaths, drug use, and all associated societal impacts - and is widely lauded as a positive example.

https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug...ecord-straight

A multi tiered supported system unlike what we have here.

[westopher]

How would you know what they have here? Have you looked into it? Because you can't find info on it anywhere apparently.

[Hondaracer]

I have actually.

This is a great article I’ve saved previously that has a great account of the history of their transition and the current trends

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/201...orld-copied-it

Honestly even if we copied their model to a tee I doubt it will work as effectively. In Canada we love running a welfare state where independent business profits off misery. We will likely never get to a point where there aren’t thousands of people laying in our streets.

[68style]

Especially if we keep using hyperbole when we discuss it haha