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Is the isolation really that bad? I work outside and I see a lot of people walking, jogging, riding bikes, and generally enjoying the weather. I've never had so many people compliment my work or say hello in passing.
It has me wondering how much more miserable people will feel once the weather turns Sunday.
Both our vehicles have been sitting for 5 days now. Think I might go for a quick drive down to White Rock beach just to see how many people are out today..
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punkwax, I don't care what your friends say about you, you are gold!
Both our vehicles have been sitting for 5 days now. Think I might go for a quick drive down to White Rock beach just to see how many people are out today..
I've been staying at home since Monday. I went out to grab some groceries yesterday. Maybe I should go out for a drive too...
Originally Posted by https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html
Younger Adults Make Up Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalizations in U.S.
New C.D.C. data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54. But the risk of dying was significantly higher in older people.
American adults of all ages — not just those in their 70s, 80s and 90s — are being seriously sickened by the coronavirus, according to a report on nearly 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the United States.
The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported.
“I think everyone should be paying attention to this,” said Stephen S. Morse, a professor of epidemiology at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. “It’s not just going to be the elderly. There will be people age 20 and up. They do have to be careful, even if they think that they’re young and healthy.”
The findings served to underscore an appeal issued Wednesday at a White House briefing by Dr. Deborah Birx, a physician and State Department official who is a leader of the administration’s coronavirus task force. Citing similar reports of young adults in Italy and in France being hospitalized and needing intensive care, Dr. Birx implored the millennial generation to stop socializing in groups and to take care to protect themselves and others.
“You have the potential then to spread it to someone who does have a condition that none of us knew about, and cause them to have a disastrous outcome,” Dr. Birx said, addressing young people.
In the C.D.C. report, 20 percent of the hospitalized patients and 12 percent of the intensive care patients were between the ages of 20 and 44, basically spanning the millennial generation.
“Younger people may feel more confident about their ability to withstand a virus like this,” said Dr. Christopher Carlsten, head of respiratory medicine at the University of British Columbia. But, he said, “if that many younger people are being hospitalized, that means that there are a lot of young people in the community that are walking around with the infection.”
The new data represents a preliminary look at the first significant wave of cases in the United States that does not include people who returned to the country from Wuhan, China, or from Japan, the authors reported. Between Feb. 12 and March 16, there were 4,226 such cases reported to the C.D.C., the study says.
The ages were reported for 2,449 of those patients, the C.D.C. said, and of those, 6 percent were 85 and older, and 25 percent were between 65 and 84. Twenty-nine percent were aged 20 to 44.
The age groups of 55 to 64 and 45 to 54 each included 18 percent of the total. Only 5 percent of cases were diagnosed in people 19 and younger.
The report included no information about whether patients of any age had underlying risk factors, such as a chronic illness or a compromised immune system. So, it is impossible to determine whether the younger patients who were hospitalized were more susceptible to serious infection than most others in their age group.
But experts said that even if younger people in the report were medical outliers, the fact that they were taking up hospital beds and space in intensive care units was significant.
And these more serious cases represent the leading edge of how the pandemic is rapidly unfolding in the United States, showing that adults of all ages are susceptible and should be concerned about protecting their own health, and not transmitting the virus to others.
The youngest age group, people 19 and under, accounted for less than 1 percent of the hospitalizations, and none of the I.C.U. admissions or deaths. This dovetails with data from other countries so far. This week, however, the largest study to date of pediatric cases in China found that a small segment of very young children may need hospitalization for very serious symptoms, and that one 14-year-old boy in China died from the virus.
Of the 44 people whose deaths were recorded in the report, 15 were age 85 or older and 20 were between the ages of 65 to 84. There were nine deaths among adults age 20 to 64, the report said.
Some of the patients in the study are still sick, the authors noted, so the results of their cases are unclear. Data was missing for a number of the cases, “which likely resulted in an underestimation of the outcomes,” the authors wrote. Because of the missing data, the authors presented percentages of hospitalizations, I.C.U. admissions and deaths as a range. The report also says that the limited testing available in the United States so far makes this report only an early snapshot of the crisis.
Still, the authors wrote, “these preliminary data also demonstrate that severe illness leading to hospitalization, including I.C.U. admission and death, can occur in adults of any age with Covid-19.”
The report had no info about underlying risk factors, but how many people under 40 even know if they definitely don't have any? And either way it's filling up hospitals so good luck if anyone needs to go to one for anything urgent.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
Dates include a start point of Jan 22 until today Mar 19. The exponential growth of this is exactly what we need to stop. Now is not the time to be thinking about your personal freedoms and rights. Everyone needs to be part of the solution right this minute.
Diabetes has been found to play a role in fatality rate. The CDC states that a typical virus carrier would have a .9% chance of fatality, while a diabetic jumps to 7%.
America has A LOT of diabetics. Asians as well are more prone to diabetes.
My wife is a type 1 diabetic. I made the call today that I won't be coming into work until this virus is sorted.
It's pretty new information coming out. We're learning more about this disease and its effects as the day's go by and the cases stack up.
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Now is not the time to be thinking about your personal freedoms and rights. Everyone needs to be part of the solution right this minute.
Some hippies can be so hard to convince. If everyone do their parts and stay at home, we can flatten the curve in 2wks time. No one is taking away their freedom... we are not passing laws that put our future right in risk, just ASKING for you to think about the community and collaborate with everyone to stop this pandemic.
By staying outside, one doesn't just put him/herself in danger, but all the people that will come in contact with. To be thinking that it's your "freedom" to roam free is VERY VERY selfish.
Sadly, I have a friend who's like this. And we argued about this the other day when I told him to stock up and stay at home for a few days. He then argued with me, the charter of rights give him the freedom... I was like ... is this really the time to discuss about this? You can roam all you want in a few weeks when these whole virus thing ease up and I could give a flying shit about it. But not now.
Some hippies can be so hard to convince. If everyone do their parts and stay at home, we can flatten the curve in 2wks time. No one is taking away their freedom... we are not passing laws that put our future right in risk, just ASKING for you to think about the community and collaborate with everyone to stop this pandemic.
By staying outside, one doesn't just put him/herself in danger, but all the people that will come in contact with. To be thinking that it's your "freedom" to roam free is VERY VERY selfish.
Sadly, I have a friend who's like this. And we argued about this the other day when I told him to stock up and stay at home for a few days. He then argued with me, the charter of rights give him the freedom... I was like ... is this really the time to discuss about this? You can roam all you want in a few weeks when these whole virus thing ease up and I could give a flying shit about it. But not now.
i can totally relate to this... have a close friend who's literally taking this so lightly it's driving me nuts. I tried to tell him many many times that its not just him.. its the surroundings. His entire work will have to close, people around him will get hit, his parents, his grandmother. Cant beat their stubbornness ughh
Buses are free starting tomorrow with rear door boarding - to encourage social distancing. Although i really don't understand how either of those accomplish those, but I guess it's a welcome help for low-income families who need to transit to work.
Also the # of new cases in BC has dropped for 2nd consecutive day. I assume that they are testing more people than before, so this in itself is good news, although I really hope this doesn't make people complacent.
the US had 4500 cases in the last day. previous to that they had 980, 1750, 2850.
for comparison, italy has 5300 new cases today, but italy first broke the 1000 cases per day barrier TWELVE days ago.
the US will likely surpass italy's rate tomorrow, meaning they did what italy did in 12 days in just 4.
She didn't exactly put up the fight you'd usually see when someone gets caught like that. No yelling, she didn't even run away. She cleaned it up with almost no attempt to "save face"
I bet she had an emergency and had to either go behind a tree or shit her pants. Assuming that's the case, honestly that's pretty embarrassing.
FUCK traditional chinese medicine! that's the biggest crock of god damn shit ever. Chinese people DONT live longer than any other and they use the ever-living fuck out of these "naturopath" bullshit.
FUCK traditional chinese medicine! that's the biggest crock of god damn shit ever. Chinese people DONT live longer than any other and they use the ever-living fuck out of these "naturopath" bullshit.
NOPE
fuck TCM and fuck the retards who promote it.
SOME things in TCM and Ayurveda (Indian version) have been studied and proven, and have led to real medicine. TCM has tortured bears using their bile salts to treat liver ailments for decades if not centuries. That led to the development of a synthesized version, UDCA which is an amazing drug. Saved my wife this year
So there's definitely some efficacy behind it. I just don't believe in the theories they use with all the "heat" and "meridian" shit. Test it outside China with double blind studies, and I'll believe the facts.
the US had 4500 cases in the last day. previous to that they had 980, 1750, 2850.
for comparison, italy has 5300 new cases today, but italy first broke the 1000 cases per day barrier TWELVE days ago.
the US will likely surpass italy's rate tomorrow, meaning they did what italy did in 12 days in just 4.
60M people in Italy vs 330M in the states..
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Originally Posted by MG1
punkwax, I don't care what your friends say about you, you are gold!
She didn't exactly put up the fight you'd usually see when someone gets caught like that. No yelling, she didn't even run away. She cleaned it up with almost no attempt to "save face"
I bet she had an emergency and had to either go behind a tree or shit her pants. Assuming that's the case, honestly that's pretty embarrassing.
She probably turned around the block and threw that bag at someone else's yard.
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... is this really the time to discuss about this? You can roam all you want in a few weeks when these whole virus thing ease up and I could give a flying shit about it. But not now.
