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I have a copy of Road & Track magazine from March of 2000. What I find amusing is that when testing the E55 head to head with the legendary E39 M5, they actually preferred the handling, chassis balance, and steering of the E55 compared to the M5 in their testing. Ultimately, the M5 won the test overall because it had the better engine and a 6-speed manual.
A well sorted W210 E55 is a nice car to drive.
Nice, I used to subscribe to R+T when I was younger.
For the E55, what I remember from reading a slightly modified car shootout, it had a RennTech tuned E55. I thought it looked badass
I remember when the E39 M5s were cheaper but now they are. I still stop and stare at them whenever I see a clean one - I remember last year, I was getting ice cream at Commercial Drive, and in the neighborhood, there was MINT, CLEAN E39 M5. Looked incredible.
I have an affinity towards any kind of econobox or cars otherwise not initially built with sporting intentions in mind, with engines inside of them that are not supposed to be.
CL1 Accord Euro R is one of my favourites. As tofu put it, a DC2R dressed in business casual. The styling is completely timeless, and those flares, everything about the simple lines are just not a thing in today's world of weird hunchback four door coupes and whatever garbage everyone is producing these days. Definitely one of my favourite Hondas ever, especially in red (dammit Ronald should've bought yours way back).
Maybe not that old to a lot of you, but in 2008 I was just entering high school so it's old for me. Legacy STI S402 sedan/wagon, still till this day it's a dream car of mine. Again, timeless styling, especially with the wagon with the floating roof that was cool before floating roofs were a thing (black out B and C-pillars, frameless doors). These things just ooze elegance. I've never been a WRX STI fan, so this would be my grown-up version of one of those. Also, I love rear wipers on sedans in Japan. They're fucking awesome.
Moral of the story: I was born in the wrong country for cars.
You can get a partial of that car in the North American Legacy Spec B. Not a easy car to find in good shape or low mileage though. I spent about a year looking for one about a decade ago. They fall into the trashed/high mileage/asking for too much camp.
You can get a partial of that car in the North American Legacy Spec B. Not a easy car to find in good shape or low mileage though. I spent about a year looking for one about a decade ago. They fall into the trashed/high mileage/asking for too much camp.
A few years ago I was legitimately looking into a Spec B, but as you've said, most of them were abused or the owners are asking for way too much.
There's so much stuff STI did with the S402 (like all the recent news about the S209 complete car), it's just way better than the Spec B we got.
I may seriously start looking at some average prices for S402 in Japan within the next few years, in hopes of being able to import one (if the FD2R plan falls through).
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A few years ago I was legitimately looking into a Spec B, but as you've said, most of them were abused or the owners are asking for way too much.
There's so much stuff STI did with the S402 (like all the recent news about the S209 complete car), it's just way better than the Spec B we got.
I may seriously start looking at some average prices for S402 in Japan within the next few years, in hopes of being able to import one (if the FD2R plan falls through).
I think the only really impossible piece with the S402 were the brakes and wheels. The Spec B got the special aluminum control arms, the Bilstein shocks, the 6sp and the torsen rear diff.
Honest, you'd probably stg 2 the car, swap out for coils, and get new wheels and tires anyways(I know I would). The parts that are really hard to do from a regular LGT would be the 6sp and the torsen diff.
But yeah good luck finding one. I put a deposit down on a 2008 DGM Spec B in 2012. When I went to look at the car it had a scrape down the passenger side rear fender and bumper. For 28k + tax and no negotiation room. No thanks.
I think the only really impossible piece with the S402 were the brakes and wheels. The Spec B got the special aluminum control arms, the Bilstein shocks, the 6sp and the torsen rear diff.
Honest, you'd probably stg 2 the car, swap out for coils, and get new wheels and tires anyways(I know I would). The parts that are really hard to do from a regular LGT would be the 6sp and the torsen diff.
But yeah good luck finding one. I put a deposit down on a 2008 DGM Spec B in 2012. When I went to look at the car it had a scrape down the passenger side rear fender and bumper. For 28k + tax and no negotiation room. No thanks.
I built my own. I have a 05 lgt that has a 04 sti drivetrain, all the aluminum spec b stuff. built using 08+ sti parts bin. brembos, dccd, suretrac front, clutch type rear, bbs, the works. threw in a 17 sti turbocharger. makes 300 wheel on a conservative tune. Only the cosmetics are one off. Most of the mechanical bits to build a S402 can be sourced easily. Also have a 07 spec b completely stock in storage. 65k on the clock accident free for collecting purposes.
I have a copy of Road & Track magazine from March of 2000. What I find amusing is that when testing the E55 head to head with the legendary E39 M5, they actually preferred the handling, chassis balance, and steering of the E55 compared to the M5 in their testing. Ultimately, the M5 won the test overall because it had the better engine and a 6-speed manual.
A well sorted W210 E55 is a nice car to drive.
I remember reading this very comparo as a child, was very impressed how fast these sedans were
I drove so many cool cars when I was a teenager in the late-90s/early-2000s and I basically haven’t driven anything cooler than a Civic Si and a 370Z (on test drives) in the last 17 years ...
E39 M5 was one of them (with a 6-speed no less). My best friend’s sister worked on the X-Files and she’d have a new cool car almost every time she came to visit that she’d let us take out. That and the 996 C4 were probably the most fun.
Plus my uncle had lots of cool sports cars (Viper, 300ZX TT, and some old muscle cars) and my dad’s best friend had several muscle cars.
having driven this thing a few times at work.... old school feel, weird lay out and controls....
modern speed and performance in a more compact footprint than current 911s. essentially a 959 mass production type.
then there were the rallying specials:
Pulsar GTI-R
Celica All trac / GT Four
323 GT-X / Familia GTR
impreza wrx gr A
lancer evo 1-9
delta integrale + evolution models
190E cosworths
sierra cosworth, escort cosworth
I had a chance to drive a Dodge Stealth before, was it dissapointing lol. Yes, it was the base model and yes I know the top trims have much more power.
I had a chance to drive a Dodge Stealth before, was it dissapointing lol. Yes, it was the base model and yes I know the top trims have much more power.
I remember there was a highlighter green one that visited my block regularly when I was a kid. I peeked and saw it had a 320km/h speedo and equated that to being fast.
When I was a kid, I thought these were the coolest things ever. It was so absurd. At that age, I was really into Macau, DTM, Super GT, WRC already. But my first exposure to north american car culture was through these trucks.
I remember there was a highlighter green one that visited my block regularly when I was a kid. I peeked and saw it had a 320km/h speedo and equated that to being fast.
Didn't every kid look at the speedo and think that was it's top speed?
My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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When I was a kid, I thought these were the coolest things ever. It was so absurd. At that age, I was really into Macau, DTM, Super GT, WRC already. But my first exposure to north american car culture was through these trucks.
They're still cool, the amount horsepower needed to power those tractor tires and the amount of work that goes into the build.
I'm biased because I recently bought one. However, I bought one because it's cool. So many reasons:
Refined 300zx motor
RWD with VLSD
Mulltilink rear suspension
True dual exhaust
4WS (93 & 94 Touring models only)
V6 or V8 (Japan only) engine choices - V8 was from the Q45
Top notch build quality - Even the trunk has no hollow aftershock sound
American styled with Japan furniture company designed interior (real wood!)
Extremely expensive when it came out ($40,000+ CDN in 1993 money)
It was labelled by some as a 'Personal Luxury Sedan" which was a play on Personal Luxury Coupes which were still around at that time but slowly on their last breath. This car garnered that label due to dimensions which were similar to a coupe. All the car needed were rear bucket seats and it could have been a 4 door coupe. This car had other coupe like foibles such as a poor trunk space and interior room that was SMALLER than a Sentra of the same year.
Underneath that Dove bar shaped body is a surprisingly nimble car with all the good stuff that makes it a somewhat worthy competitor for the cars it was meant to spar with. This is early 90s Japan when they were riding high and overbuilding many things without rhyme or reason (though leaving American cars in the Asian dust). This car didn't need to exist but I'm glad they built it. It replaced the USDM only M30 Coupe and production ended in 1997.
For anyone that knows the Leopard, this car was badged as the Leopard in Japan, however, it was given the additional name of 'J. Ferie' and the car only sold about 2500 units in this generation. Not sure how many of those were V8s.
Car sold a lot better in North America but a lot of them ended up falling into bad hands and it's hard to find good examples of a car (and time) long long gone. This car isn't perfect but it has so many different layers underneath its soft yet contentious exterior, it reminds me of the human soul.
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so it's old for me. Legacy STI S402 sedan/wagon, still till this day it's a dream car of mine. Again, timeless styling, especially with the wagon with the floating roof that was cool before floating roofs were a thing (black out B and C-pillars, frameless doors). These things just ooze elegance. I've never been a WRX STI fan, so this would be my grown-up version of one of those. Also, I love rear wipers on sedans in Japan. They're fucking awesome.
